Still think that cross-dressing in-the-closet gay had a hand in the JFK assassination.

There was a major cover-up, ordered by Hoover.

Seems the FBI had Oswald on their radar, since he was a radical who had returned from a sojourn in Russia, and was advocating far-left causes, like his Cuba advocacy.

So the fact that he had bought a gun mail order using a fake name, and shot at a former general, then shot Kennedy had the FBI with egg on their faces, so Hoover covered up their surveillance of Oswald.

Special Agent Don Adams of the FBI deserved to be seen and heard by billions. The guy was the real deal, a brave agent who stepped forward. Among his assassination-connected work, FBI Special Agent Don Adams interviewed racist Joseph Adams Milteer, a guy an FBI informant had taped detailing a pre-Dallas plot in Miami.

You just destroyed your credibility by using that video from Alex Jones.

As to the rest of the links, I could find lots of accusations too, for anything.

Climate change denial.
Obama's "fake" birth certificate.
9-11 being a fake, or at least it was a plot by the Mossad using explosives.
Moon landing "hoax."
Crop circles.
Flying saucers.

And so on.

Other than ad hominem, that is?

BTW: Id' post another interview, from Fox TV, of all people, but it's no longer available.

That is the norm, at Jones' websites.

If this guy was so in on the plot, and was so willing to spill the beans, why is he still alive?
According to conspiracy theorists the FBI has them killed.

You see how this works?

A kook pops up, makes wild accusations they never do back up with any credible evidence, and most people laugh at them.

Like this guy:

http://americanloons.blogspot.ca/2014/11/1205-jack-thompson.html

And why post crap about another person, a straw man now?

The first African American Secret Service agent to serve on the White House detail was later set-up and sent to prison after going to the Warren Commission with his concerns. President Kennedy literally hand-picked Agent Bolden himself. Agent Abraham Bolden reported overt racism by his fellow agents and outright hostility toward the "n------loving president," quoting fellow Secret Service agents on the JFK detail.

In addition to enduring all manner of personal indignities, he was concerned at the lack of professionalism in those assigned to protect the president and reported his concerns. He was told, "OK. Thanks" by his superiors. When the problems weren't addressed, Bolden requested transfer back to the Secret Service office in Chicago.



Abraham Bolden speaks at JFK Lancer.



The story of a man who told the truth:

I'd add that, regarding the letter from the OP, anyone who asks, "Do 'we' really know it came from the FBI?" is either terribly uninformed, or purposely attempting to raise doubts where there are none. Zero. Enough FBI officials close to Hoover have, on record, answered that question.

The recounting of a Hoover-Tim Gunn encounter is totally worth listening to the first 5 mins or so. Yes, there's a transcript, but you have to listen for the best effect.

Cheers

How do we know the FBI wrote this, let alone Hoover had it done?

We know what an SOB Hoover was, and the crap he pulled.

But was Hoover racist enough to order this letter written?

(Shakes head)

How can anyone NOT know what a racist prick he was. Read up on Cointellpro and Mark Hampton, etc.

Out of 38,000 or something posts I've made over the past 12 years, just a few dozen are OPs on the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. If they bother you so much, put me on "Ignore."

For those interested, here are the OPs -- excluding the current one -- I have started on the sad anniversary and on the Duquesne Conference over the last few weeks:

Octafish to attend JFK assassination conference. Do you think JFK still matters?

JFK Conference: Amazing Day of Information and Connecting with Good People

After JFK Conference, when I got home, I felt like RFK.

JFK Conference: Bill Kelly introduced new evidence - adding Air Force One tape recordings

JFK Conference: Rex Bradford detailed the historic importance of the Church Committee

JFK Conference: Lisa Pease Discussed the Real Harm of Corrupt Soft Power

JFK Conference: James DiEugenio made clear how Foreign Policy changed after November 22, 1963

JFK Conference: Mark Lane Addressed the Secret Government’s Role in the Assassination

JFK Conference: David Talbot named Allen Dulles as 'the Chairman of the Board of the Assassination'

JFK Conference: Dan Hardway Detailed how CIA Obstructed HSCA Investigation

Noah's Ark - Nov. 22, 1963

Seven Days in May -- tonight on TCM

Machine Gun Mouth

And like I wrote before: I am thankful these are of interest to many DUers, Democrats and those who want to see Justice for JFK. I post on DU because I don't want the BFEE warmongers of the "Money trumps peace" crowd to continue writing the nation's history, as they've tried to do over the past 50 years. Judging from the responses of DUers, I think they're of interest to even those who aren't "Conspiracy Theorists."

The FBI engaged in the political repression of "communism" almost from the time of the agency's inception in 1908, at a time of widespread social disruption due to anarchists and labor movements. Beginning in the 1930s, antecedents to COINTELPRO operated during the Franklin D. Roosevelt and Harry S. Truman administrations. Centralized operations under COINTELPRO officially began in August 1956 with a program designed to "increase factionalism, cause disruption and win defections" inside the Communist Party U.S.A. (CPUSA). Tactics included anonymous phone calls, IRS audits, and the creation of documents that would divide American communists internally.[16] An October 1956 memo from Hoover reclassified the FBI's ongoing surveillance of black leaders, including it within COINTELPRO, with the justification that the movement was infiltrated by communists.[17] In 1956, Hoover sent an open letter denouncing Dr. T.R.M. Howard, a civil rights leader, surgeon, and wealthy entrepreneur in Mississippi who had criticized FBI inaction in solving recent murders of George W. Lee, Emmett Till, and other blacks in the South.[18] When the Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC) was founded in 1957, the FBI began to monitor and target the group almost immediately, focusing particularly on Bayard Rustin, Stanley Levison, and, eventually, Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr.[19]

After the 1963 March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom, Hoover singled out King as a major target for COINTELPRO. Under pressure from Hoover to focus on King, Sullivan wrote:

In the light of King's powerful demagogic speech. ... We must mark him now, if we have not done so before, as the most dangerous Negro of the future in this nation from the standpoint of communism, the Negro, and national security.[20]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO

I'm afraid it was Hoover's use of the program to go after it seems anyone *HE* didn't like, that resulted in the abuses.

But it was par for the course for Hoover, and his obsessions.

First, someone should have the right to be a Communist in the US if they want. Consider the tactics... "increase factionalism, cause disruption and win defections" inside the Communist Party U.S.A. (CPUSA). Tactics included anonymous phone calls, IRS audits, and the creation of documents that would divide American communists internally.

If intolerance of political opposition was a reason to fear the Communists, what were they doing?

Same tactics led to the internal discontent which led to Malcom X's murder.

The ones advocating violent overthrow deserved watching, at least.

On another message board I see every so often, there is a died-in-the-wool Marxist Leninist who openly advocates for North Korea, (according to him it's a paradise,) and advocates for killing Obama, congressmen, senators, and so on.

This same board though has openly Nazi Germany sympathizers, though also.

Not to mention the fundy Muslims there...

than infiltration, disruption, and discrediting. The tactics used against other left-wing groups highlights the inherent unjust & unethical problems. Not to mention all the illegal break-ins.

J. Edgar Hoover is the same person that started the official COINTELPRO

In these new shades Hoover is seen as a shrewd bureaucratic genius who cared less about crime than about perpetuating his crime-busting image. With his acute public relations sense, he managed to obscure his bureau's failings while magnifying its sometime successes. Even his fervent anti-Communism has been cast into doubt; some former aides insist that he knew the party was never a genuine internal threat to the nation but a useful, popular target to ensure financial and public support for the FBI.

Even more serious flaws in the Hoover character and official performance have come to light:

> Instead of insulating his bureau from politically sensitive Presidents, Hoover eagerly complied with improper requests from the men in the White House for information on potential opponents. If a President failed to ask for such information, the Director often volunteered it. He tapped the telephones of Government officials on request, perused files of politicians unasked, volunteered tidbits of gossip.

> He was a petty man of towering personal hates. There was more than a tinge of racism in his vicious vendetta against Martin Luther King Jr. He had to be pushed into hiring black agents for the bureau.

> His informers, infiltrators and wiretappers delved into the activities of even the most innocuous and nonviolent civil rights and antiwar groups, trampling on the rights of citizens to express grievances against their Government. His spies within potentially dangerous extremist groups sometimes provoked more violence than they prevented.

<snip>
Hoover's wartime reputation for protecting U.S. defense plants against saboteurs and nailing German spies (eight were arrested while landing on Long Island) was well deserved. Although sometimes criticized as a haven for draft dodgers, the FBI performed counterespionage duties overseas as well. But after the war, Hoover suffered a bureaucratic blow when Congress created the CIA to handle foreign intelligence-gathering operations.

The agile Director recovered by embarking on his postwar anti-Communist campaign. His agents helped to arrest Alger Hiss, convicted of perjury for denying that he had been a Communist agent; Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, executed for treason; Colonel Abel, convicted for passing military secrets to the Russians. They blew one case against Judith Coplon by barging into her room without a warrant, causing charges of espionage to be dismissed.

Although both the bureau and Senator Joseph McCarthy denied it, Hoover's men supplied the rampaging Wisconsin Republican with nearly all of the frail information he had about Communists in the U.S. Government. "I worked on it myself," recalls a former agent. "But we didn't have enough evidence to show there was one Communist in the State Department, let alone the 57 McCarthy was claiming."

disturbing question is why Hoover for so long was able to still any effective criticism. Didn't journalists in particular know what kind of dirty tactics Hoover was employing? A few newsmen—Jack Anderson, Fred Cook, Tom Wicker, Jack Nelson—picked up and printed some facets of the dark side of Hoover. A few groups—Black Panthers, the Congress of Racial Equality, Students for a Democratic Society, Socia11st Workers Party, and Minutemen—had long been complaining, rightly as it turned out, about FBI harassment. But mostly, no one was listening. Even as late as 1973, most editors laughed when Norman Mailer threw a 50th birthday party for himself at Manhattan's Four Seasons restaurant and urged the creation of "a democratic secret police to keep tabs on the bureaucratic secret police—the FBI and CIA."

As in all of Hoover's battles with various opponents, he was exceptionally adroit in handling the press. Long before Nixon, the FBI had its own enemies list of reporters and publications that seemed unfriendly and should be shunned on all inquiries, no matter how trivial. Anyone printing positive news about the FBI, on the other hand, might be favored with some of the FBI's rare handouts of information on major stories. For a newsman, that was more readily productive than trying to interest an editor in some undocumented expose of FBI practices based on nervous, anonymous sources. The Los Angeles Times' Jack Nelson tried anyway; soon his office was swirling with rumors that he was a drunk, and his boss got a letter from Hoover gently suggesting that Nelson be fired.

http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,879566-9,00.html


On the subject of violent overthrow, I have no disagreement here. Free Masons conspiracy seems to be a much bigger problem here and the idea that everyone in charge is a free mason leads to same train of thought. Seems to be a very weird diverse board. I'd be interested in the Communist-Nazi discussions.

It's also an image board too, with a lot of NSFW stuff.

http://www.deviantart.com/

The display will take some getting used to.

I wasn't terribly serious, not actually interested in reading about hate. I'm surprised people fall for the propaganda after all these years though many people share the same bias, Nazis were big into the Freemason conspiracy now that I think of it.

of course. It's worth noting that while the original "official" reason for the program was to target "communists," within two months, documents authored by Hoover made it clear that his intent was to focus on any relationship -- real or not -- between "communists" and the Civil Rights Movement. This, as we know, was an area that Hoover obsessed about regarding King, second only to the director's being horrified that Martin enjoyed sex with women.