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underpants

(182,804 posts)
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 07:54 PM Nov 2014

The missing one. --- food shrinkage


So my daughter and I decide to make crescent roll hot dogs on Sunday. Run to the store and get back. Stuff the National brand all-beef dogs with cheese (Daddy is cooking) and then start rolling out the crescent rolls. We get to the last one and we are out of hot dogs. Huh? For the next 5 minutes we both were cracking up WHERE IS THE 8th HOT DOG?!?!? We look everywhere. The cats? No the boy wouldn't and the girl is too fat to get up on the counter.

Finally I fish the hot dog wrapper out of the trash (hey it was on the top). No mention of quantity on the front cover. We assumed it was 8, right? Turn it over to look at the nutritional information. Serving Size: 1 hot dog. Servings per container: 7

7?!?!? We just figured there were 8. Didn't count them because there have always been 8... or 12... or the huge packages.

Also, that morning we went to McDonald's (yes I am terrible) and the Egg McMuffin is now at least 20% smaller than it used to be. They are shrinking our food but still charging the same price. Nice. Remember when gas prices were the reason for food price increases? Yeah gas is going down but not the food prices.
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The missing one. --- food shrinkage (Original Post) underpants Nov 2014 OP
That's been going on all of my life customerserviceguy Nov 2014 #1
59? Then you may recall when orange juice LiberalElite Nov 2014 #13
Oh, yes customerserviceguy Nov 2014 #18
what about the dinky cracker boxes? grasswire Nov 2014 #2
or the lays potato chip bags that are 3/4 air and 1/4 chips....and still cost 4.00 a bag.... a kennedy Nov 2014 #33
And they say all the air is to protect the chips from being crushed, LOL! Odin2005 Nov 2014 #48
Yeah, then they bullshit us about our wages Warpy Nov 2014 #3
good point RedCappedBandit Nov 2014 #57
Check out Ocean Spray 100% juice cranberry juice bottles LiberalEsto Nov 2014 #4
Hebrew National only has 7 dogs in a package. Ilsa Nov 2014 #5
Hebrew National ALWAYS had 7 dogs in a package meow2u3 Nov 2014 #39
That sort of thing screws up a lot of recipes that were developed over the years using 'standard' Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #6
Some of my mother's really old recipes call for specific can sizes csziggy Nov 2014 #8
Tuna drives me up the wall. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #9
That's why I've been buying the "better" quality tuna from Costco csziggy Nov 2014 #10
My parents made this thing with tuna when I was growing up Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #11
My fall back is tuna casserole made with Kraft Mac & Cheese csziggy Nov 2014 #14
Hot Dish. Beloved and hated, center of church potlucks uppityperson Nov 2014 #15
Add some shredded cheese Liberal Lolita Nov 2014 #25
And if you really want to knock their socks off, use crushed potato chips instead of bread crumbs Sheldon Cooper Nov 2014 #27
Potato chip salmon hot dish uppityperson Nov 2014 #41
Heh. I forgot about the jello salad. Sheldon Cooper Nov 2014 #42
OMGosh, that is just making me very, very hungry... a kennedy Nov 2014 #36
TUNA NOODLE HOTDISH!!! Odin2005 Nov 2014 #49
I love creamed salmon and peas on toast Marrah_G Nov 2014 #21
Along those lines, you can't drive as far on a gallon of ethanol-mix gas bhikkhu Nov 2014 #7
Shhhhhhhh... sendero Nov 2014 #17
I get annoyed every time LiberalElite Nov 2014 #12
That's why I'm going back to oatmeal for breakfast csziggy Nov 2014 #16
When did a 5lb bag of sugar become only 4 lbs? Marie Marie Nov 2014 #19
It's been several years now. historylovr Nov 2014 #28
It was recent up North meow2u3 Nov 2014 #37
If it was never national they have always been 7. dilby Nov 2014 #20
Noted above too underpants Nov 2014 #26
My Dad told me it's because 7 is a lucky number in Judaism. dilby Nov 2014 #32
It's not shrinkage-- it's FUN-sizing! johnnyreb Nov 2014 #22
LMAO!! nt WhiteAndNerdy Nov 2014 #24
I never could figure out "fun size" candy and they're the miniature Halloween kind Skittles Nov 2014 #53
Toilet paper, too. WhiteAndNerdy Nov 2014 #23
Orwellian if you ask me meow2u3 Nov 2014 #38
Just wait until the pipeline busts in the middle of the food basket for the world. lonestarnot Nov 2014 #29
Yep, contaminate the Red River Valley of The North and... Odin2005 Nov 2014 #50
All so Canada can conveniently ship that shit somewhere else and line someone's pocket. Oh Yay! lonestarnot Nov 2014 #56
I always thought it was kind of weird anyway pipi_k Nov 2014 #30
Wow! That one is unexpected... Phentex Nov 2014 #31
Consumerist calls this the "Grocery Store Shrink Ray." alarimer Nov 2014 #34
A half gallon of ice cream now is 48 fl. oz. meow2u3 Nov 2014 #35
And Breyer's isn't real ice cream, anymore. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #51
Peanut butter containers have an inverted dome on the bottom meow2u3 Nov 2014 #40
Yes they do. Good point. underpants Nov 2014 #43
watch out for PB KT2000 Nov 2014 #52
gallons of gas are getting smaller too? GeorgeGist Nov 2014 #44
In relation to this post: I just bought paper napkins. Paper Roses Nov 2014 #45
Last week my husband noted the toilet paper is smaller. Vinca Nov 2014 #46
Candy bars have gotten tiny. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #47
i have been trying to get DUers to start a movement about this for the past 6 years. kelliekat44 Nov 2014 #54
Bingo, I see that shit all of the time MrScorpio Nov 2014 #55

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
1. That's been going on all of my life
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 08:01 PM
Nov 2014

and I'll be 59 next week. Sizes shrink, prices don't, then they come out with the "Large Economy Size" and the process starts all over again.

At least they could have made your hot dogs a bit smaller, and kept eight of them in the package. Nothing worse than a wiener shortage.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
13. 59? Then you may recall when orange juice
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 10:07 PM
Nov 2014

was $.79 a quart in the 1970's. The price goes up every time there's a freeze in Florida. It somehow never ever goes down.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
2. what about the dinky cracker boxes?
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 08:05 PM
Nov 2014

That one gets me. Smaller and smaller and smaller!

I'll have to check the hot dog packages at the store tomorrow to see what's up.

a kennedy

(29,663 posts)
33. or the lays potato chip bags that are 3/4 air and 1/4 chips....and still cost 4.00 a bag....
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 11:53 AM
Nov 2014

Oh yah, shrinkage indeed.

 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
4. Check out Ocean Spray 100% juice cranberry juice bottles
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 08:25 PM
Nov 2014

Instead of giving you 64 ounces, they've shrunk the top half of the bottles and only give you 60 ounces. The shrinkage is hard to notice, but I try to read the fine print on labels.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
5. Hebrew National only has 7 dogs in a package.
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 08:50 PM
Nov 2014

6 if they are the longer bun length. Could that explain why you were missing one?

meow2u3

(24,764 posts)
39. Hebrew National ALWAYS had 7 dogs in a package
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 12:04 PM
Nov 2014

ever since I was a kid. That's been the way they came since I could remember.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
6. That sort of thing screws up a lot of recipes that were developed over the years using 'standard'
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 09:04 PM
Nov 2014

packaging sizes. For a brief while, the kraft shredded cheese packages went from 8 ounces down to 7 where I am, but there must have been an outcry of ticked off consumers, because after a month or two they were right back up to 8. But other things have shrunk and stayed shrunk, like ice cream, which used to come in 'half gallon' sizes, and now most often seems to be 1.5 quart.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
8. Some of my mother's really old recipes call for specific can sizes
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 09:24 PM
Nov 2014

Like this:


And it really screws up recipes when the "standard" can size is changed. For instance, now tuna comes in smaller than 6 ounce cans so a recipe for tuna casserole that used two 6 oz cans is now shorted by as much as an ounce. But then, the "premium" tuna I got at Costco is in a 7 ounce can so two of those would have two ounces MORE tuna than Mom's old recipe! Of course now I don't use canned vegetables like she did so I can throw more or fewer frozen vegetables into the recipe to adjust the proportions.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
9. Tuna drives me up the wall.
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 09:34 PM
Nov 2014

Going from brand to brand, I notice extreme variability in how much is just water or oil vs how much meat you actually get in a given can. What I basically decided was that it was pointless to try and buy 'bargain' brands, because you ended up getting so much more water and so much less fish that you were losing money over simply buying the 'name' products. I've forgotten the brand name, but there was one I bought that draining it left something less than 1/5th of the bottom of the can covered in loose flakes of what I at least hope was tuna - a six ounce can with maybe an ounce of meat when all was said and done.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
10. That's why I've been buying the "better" quality tuna from Costco
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 09:54 PM
Nov 2014

More good chunky tuna and not as much liquid - which disappoints the cat a lot since he gets the "tuny juice." Plus, getting the packs with a half dozen cans at least gives me consistency for that batch.

But we don't eat as much tuna as we used to. About once a year I got a "loaf" of tuna fish cans from Costco and we work our way through them. Same for canned salmon. As often as not we have "fish burgers" made with both tuna and salmon instead of casseroles. Mixing the two fish types gives better flavor to my fish burger recipe and makes a nice change. My recipe is loosely based on this one: http://allrecipes.com/recipe/bbq-tuna-fritters/detail.aspx but I don't pan fry - I spray a cookie sheet, shape the patties, chill for an hour and then bake the "burgers" - less grease and healthier. Sometimes I put cheese on top, depending on what I have in the house and the sauce mixed in varies - BBQ, teriyaki, whatever I feel like that day.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
11. My parents made this thing with tuna when I was growing up
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 09:59 PM
Nov 2014

boil up some elbow noodles with celery slices, drain, add a little butter and tuna.

Pretty simple, but it was a way to stretch the can of tuna into a meal for 4 people.

I mostly end up using it to make sandwiches when I feel the urge for some these days.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
14. My fall back is tuna casserole made with Kraft Mac & Cheese
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 10:20 PM
Nov 2014

The old fashioned kind of mac & cheese with the powdered shit. Cook mac & cheese according to the box, add a can of whatever kind of soup (cream of mushroom, celery, cheddar cheese & broccoli), nuke a 16 ounce package of frozen vegetables until not quite done (I like the blends with broccoli, carrots, cauliflower), add extra cheese, a can of mushrooms, and whatever herbs & spices you like. Bake until hot & bubbly.

Can of tuna under $1, box of mac & cheese on sale $1, vegetables about $1.50, extras maybe another couple of dollars - that makes 2-3 meals for the two of us, easy and cheap. Mom used to feed six of us that with a salad of iceburg lettuce and oil & vinegar spiced up with seasoned salt for dressing.

I'm trying to get away from sandwiches, but not eating them is not helping me lose weight. Now I want to mix up some tuna for sandwiches this week!

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
15. Hot Dish. Beloved and hated, center of church potlucks
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 10:28 PM
Nov 2014

Tuna from a can
Elbow macaroni, cooked
Campbells Cream Of Mushroom Soup
Bag of frozen peas, thawed

Mix, put in casserole dish, back 1/2 hr.

To get really fancy, sprinkle bread crumbs on top before baking.

Yup, you bet. Good stuff for sure.

Sheldon Cooper

(3,724 posts)
27. And if you really want to knock their socks off, use crushed potato chips instead of bread crumbs
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 09:18 AM
Nov 2014

sprinkled on top. That'll get the church folks all a-twitter.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
41. Potato chip salmon hot dish
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 12:31 PM
Nov 2014

Using canned salmon, cr mushroom soup, thawed peas, a big bag of potato chips. Gramma's best hot dish recipe! So exotic!

It goes wonderfully with shredded carrot green jello molded salad.

Sheldon Cooper

(3,724 posts)
42. Heh. I forgot about the jello salad.
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 01:10 PM
Nov 2014

You got your four basic food groups represented in that meal: meat, cream soup, chips, and jello! The peas and carrots are like icing on the cake, really.

a kennedy

(29,663 posts)
36. OMGosh, that is just making me very, very hungry...
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 11:56 AM
Nov 2014

guess what we're having for supper tonight? thanks for posting this, have kinda forgotten about this casserole dish... LOVE IT.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
21. I love creamed salmon and peas on toast
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 01:30 AM
Nov 2014

it's the only thing I use the canned salmon for. I don't buy tuna much anymore unless its a really good sale.

bhikkhu

(10,716 posts)
7. Along those lines, you can't drive as far on a gallon of ethanol-mix gas
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 09:13 PM
Nov 2014

...so there's some shrinkage there as well.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
12. I get annoyed every time
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 10:04 PM
Nov 2014

I walk down the cereal aisle. It's the land of the incredible shrinking boxes and the incredible increasing prices. $5+ for cereal that's GROWN HERE? I often wonder how small those boxes will get. Maybe before long we'll end up paying $10 and getting nothing. (Exaggerating for effect.)

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
16. That's why I'm going back to oatmeal for breakfast
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 10:29 PM
Nov 2014

1 box of quick cooking oatmeal goes for about $1.50 (or less on sale) and has about 13 servings. Much more filling than the cold cereals!

I do buy cold cereal - but only on sale. Today I got four boxes of one favorite brand buy one get one - I love BOGO deals! But I only buy that kind when they have those deals and even then, it seems too expensive.

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
19. When did a 5lb bag of sugar become only 4 lbs?
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 12:29 AM
Nov 2014

How long had Domino fooled me on this before I finally noticed?

historylovr

(1,557 posts)
28. It's been several years now.
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 09:55 AM
Nov 2014

When we were still living in the south I'd buy the Dixie Crystal brand, even if it cost more, because it was still five pounds.

meow2u3

(24,764 posts)
37. It was recent up North
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 12:00 PM
Nov 2014

It's only been this year that sugar shrunk from 5 lb to 4, at least in Pennsylvania. But a 10-lb. bag of sugar is still 10 lbs.

dilby

(2,273 posts)
20. If it was never national they have always been 7.
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 12:34 AM
Nov 2014

At least as long as I remember, should be 16 oz though.

underpants

(182,804 posts)
26. Noted above too
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 07:24 AM
Nov 2014

I did not know that. We always but Hebrew National I just thought a standard package was 8.

dilby

(2,273 posts)
32. My Dad told me it's because 7 is a lucky number in Judaism.
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 11:50 AM
Nov 2014

I am not sure if that is the real reason or not.

johnnyreb

(915 posts)
22. It's not shrinkage-- it's FUN-sizing!
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 01:58 AM
Nov 2014

Didn't you notice how FUN it was figuring out where your food went! They got Fun-Paks of candy and probably Fun-Buns by now. Someday it'll just be the Idea of food! But that'll cost you.

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
53. I never could figure out "fun size" candy and they're the miniature Halloween kind
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 06:47 AM
Nov 2014

I think of fun-sized as, aw seven or eight inches

WhiteAndNerdy

(365 posts)
23. Toilet paper, too.
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 02:13 AM
Nov 2014

I've been noticing tiny, thin little rolls of TP packaged as "double" or even "triple" rolls the last year or so.

meow2u3

(24,764 posts)
38. Orwellian if you ask me
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 12:01 PM
Nov 2014

A double roll has half of what it once had; and a triple roll 1/3 of its former size.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
50. Yep, contaminate the Red River Valley of The North and...
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 03:05 AM
Nov 2014

...fuck up the most productive farmland on Earth.

Want some fracking fluid with your pasta (durum wheat), tofu (soybeans), and beet sugar?

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
30. I always thought it was kind of weird anyway
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 11:21 AM
Nov 2014

that hotdogs came in packs of 8 while most hotdog buns came in packs of 12, or 10.


So, shrinking food...

how about coffee. It's been a long time since a can of coffee weighed in at 16 oz. Now it's 13 oz.

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
31. Wow! That one is unexpected...
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 11:25 AM
Nov 2014

but I don't buy hot dogs very often. It's been happening in everything else... canned goods, sugar, coffee, ice cream - but of course the prices are the same!

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
34. Consumerist calls this the "Grocery Store Shrink Ray."
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 11:55 AM
Nov 2014

It's simply another way for corporations to profit excessively.

meow2u3

(24,764 posts)
35. A half gallon of ice cream now is 48 fl. oz.
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 11:55 AM
Nov 2014

A quart and a half--a 25% reduction--all for the same price, if not more!

meow2u3

(24,764 posts)
40. Peanut butter containers have an inverted dome on the bottom
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 12:07 PM
Nov 2014

PB containers look the same size, but did you ever notice they don't hold as much? PB containers used to 1 lb, but now they're 15 oz. thanks to a sneaky packaging trick: an inverted dome. You have to look at the bottom to see it.

underpants

(182,804 posts)
43. Yes they do. Good point.
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 01:32 PM
Nov 2014

I saw you post up thread about Hebrew National always having 7 dogs. I had no idea. We just cook hot dogs, never noticed the number.

KT2000

(20,577 posts)
52. watch out for PB
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 03:24 AM
Nov 2014

Most companies remove the peanut oil and replace it with cottonseed or other oil. They can sell the peanut oil separately for a good price.
A few brands are just peanuts and maybe salt.

Paper Roses

(7,473 posts)
45. In relation to this post: I just bought paper napkins.
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 06:21 PM
Nov 2014

I always buy the big package -250 napkins.
They are now about an inch smaller in length and width.
OK, there may still be 250 but the size is much smaller.
Who are they kidding. This is a price increase. Same count, far less paper napkin.
We all know the list is long. Who do the manufacturers think they are kidding.

One fooled.....

Vinca

(50,273 posts)
46. Last week my husband noted the toilet paper is smaller.
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 06:25 PM
Nov 2014

Weird . . . our bottoms that need wiping aren't.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
54. i have been trying to get DUers to start a movement about this for the past 6 years.
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 06:56 AM
Nov 2014

Can't draw media attention to this at all. Even when I encounter shoppers in the food stores and ask if they notice how much the items have been reduced they are ALL unaware. I have to explain the ounces that have been cut from same-looking packages. There is practically no gallons, half gallons, no more 16 oz or lb items anywhere. And the stuff is in packaging that looks identical to the larger volume packages. At least the food industry ought to be required to change the package when they change the amount. Wonder why that can of beans no longer feeds four to six? Because one to two servings have been eliminated. But few seem to notice or even care.

I even took time to write to 5 major food manufacturers about their products dwindling amount. Got back NO responses.

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