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CK_John

(10,005 posts)
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 09:30 PM Nov 2014

The next important step by the party before choosing a candidate is rewriting

the Democratic Party platform.

IMO, It is time for a modern platform not page and pages of I want a pony document that no one reads or adheres to.....

4 or 5 items at most, that outline our core beliefs on 3/4 of a page, accompanied with a 30 sec video for each item.



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Historic NY

(37,451 posts)
2. Your on a roll today...
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 09:45 PM
Nov 2014

just what makes you think that will happen. 40- 50 yrs ago it was probably possible, when a candidate was chosen by acclamation at the convention. You better start figuring out who the delegates are because thats how the system works. They vote the platform or now support it.

Go back and review old conventions...on-line

CK_John

(10,005 posts)
4. From Wikipedia:
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 10:06 PM
Nov 2014


The chairperson of the DNC (currently U.S. Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz of Florida) is elected by vote of members of the Democratic National Committee. The DNC is composed of the chairs and vice-chairs of each state Democratic Party Committee, two hundred members apportioned among the states based on population and generally elected either on the ballot by primary voters or by the State Democratic Party Committee, a number of elected officials serving in an ex-officio capacity, and a variety of representatives of major Democratic Party constituencies.



I've been to several state conventions but never to the national.

Historic NY

(37,451 posts)
14. So your solution is coopting the democratic party...
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 11:31 PM
Nov 2014

hook, line and sinker...Do you live in Colorado?

After the dismal turnout this election you propose changing the entire party to suit, whom?? Its already apparent the young don't really give a shit to vote...no ponies and unicorns.. so your next step is to turn off the old who actually turn out.The young don't have the time or the attention span to get involved in deep Democrat politics, conventions, delegates, etc.

Thats how things work and have worked since the demise of Tammeny Hall. If you what a progessive party form one..it didn't work , but your going to try.

As for trying to go back the the Democratic Party of FDR...it isn't going to happen the times , people and conditions were different.

CK_John

(10,005 posts)
15. How does making the platform more net friendly with 30 sec sound bytes,
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 11:39 PM
Nov 2014

that is todays world. Maybe we'll get the under 60 to start voting again.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
3. Or we could just organize a real progressive party because
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 09:54 PM
Nov 2014

corporate ties and money have taken over the Democratic party and we truly have two Republican parties today. One is for the rich fat cats and the other Republican party(the old Democratic party) is made up of wanna be's rich fat cats.
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moriah

(8,311 posts)
5. I thought this was Democratic Underground.
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 10:08 PM
Nov 2014

If you feel that they're both the same, why on earth are you here?

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
8. You totally missed my point.
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 10:41 PM
Nov 2014

The Democratic party of today compared to even the 1992 Democratic party was taken over by the corporations that are playing the Wahsington Democrats like a fine tuned fiddle. It has nothing to do with Democratic Underground.
The Democratic Party as I'm referring are the people we elected as Democrats that have sold us out. And if you believe we still have a true progressive Democratic party then someone is blowing smoke in your direction.
When Democrats that are running for a Congressional seat and want to dodge their President like he is poison than I would say we have a problem with the Democratic party. Those Democrats that I described are nothing more than Republican lites.If you think the Democrats of today are those that will fight for the best interests of middle class America than you need to look again because those Democrats are corporatists and ..again nothing to do with my affiliation with DU
So its time to organize a real progressive party. And yes we have the party of the rich fat cats and the party of the wanna be rich fat cats.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
11. I hope you at least plan to vote for the nominee.
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 10:52 PM
Nov 2014

Whoever that may be, considering none have made announcements yet.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
13. We shall see but I will go many extra miles and work very hard to help get Bernie Sanders elected
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 11:31 PM
Nov 2014

if he runs and hopefully Elizabeth Warren will enter the race..Lots of sunrises and sunsets till the 2016 primaries tell what choice we have But I think if Hillary is our nominee we lose. Democrats will stay home

moriah

(8,311 posts)
7. You criticize the man who gave us Social Security? And created a minimum wage?
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 10:41 PM
Nov 2014

And was blocked at most of his other efforts by Conservatives?

I consider him a hero to the party.

Guess I'm one of those people who suck.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
10. Referring in that OP to FDR Democrats as one thing.....
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 10:50 PM
Nov 2014

... and progressive, socialist Democrats as another. Usually that comes with a derogatory connotation. But denigrating FDR?

He may not have fully tackled civil rights, too, but on the economic side, FDR was as close to a Socialist as we had at that time. He did create Social Security, the minimum wage, the entire New Deal, and it wasn't until 1937 when his policies got blocked that he didn't accomplish more.

Edit to add: for his time, he was *quite* progressive.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
16. Were you or were you not the one who linked this OP?
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 11:52 PM
Nov 2014
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025682337

To not link FDR with progressive, socialist Democrats makes no sense to me. Please explain why he was not progressive.
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