Why does "Baptist" show up on many kooks? With the exception of Jimmy Carter, this religion has some serious issues!

Dude looks harsh. Right wingers are wound up pretty darn tight.

they only think the KJV is the right bible

but in all my growing up baptistery we never heard bad things about Lincoln. Infact our current pastor idolizes Lincoln and Kennedy. but we use the NIV bible and wear "gasp" pants to church. In the eyes of my family we go to satan's church

At the first Bar Mitzvah I ever attended (and I LOVE them) that was related to my work, I made the mistake of wearing a very conservative (or so I thought) pants suit. They were very much in style then and it was a Saturday morning, right?

It was that or jeans or the suits with skirts I wore to work every day. I cannot tell you how many of the partner's wives came up to me and said "You poor thing. Didn't anyone tell you how to dress?" But, they didn't tell me what was wrong with my outfit. I thought they were just insulting my taste in clothes in general. It was a very well made suit, nice wool, etc. I was clueless. I never wanted a floor to open up and swallow me like I wanted it that day. I even thought I might get fired for not knowing how to dress I never put two and two together that all the women coming up to me were Jewish and in dresses or skirts. Doh!

Anyway, I haven't attended any church services regularly since I was a teen. However, I always check the KJV. I trust it more than modern versions. I am very sure that the King's translators had an agenda, but I figure it's probably most moot by now. I worry that modern translations, however, may "clarify" things that are very relevant these days. So, whenever someone tells me what the Bible says, I ask for Chapter and verse and check it against the KJV.

One important example: In "the red words," attributed to Jesus, Jesus never once says he is the Son of God in the KJV, but he did say it in a more modern translation that someone quoted to me verbatim.

and most of the time they are no shorter than ankle length.

When my daughter was born, my mother asked if I was going to let her wear jeans to school. She wasn't even an hour old.


I quipped off and said maybe I would stay home and teach her myself. Mom thought that was good.


To this day she wears only dresses. I can't remember the last time I wore a dress. However, it did take years to wear pants to church and then only the last year have I started to wear jeans to church. We go on Saturday nights or I probably would still wear dresses to church.

but he likes making babies they stopped at 10 because any more would kill his wife

Even God puts a limit on how long women can have children. Tried to give her a hint on number 19 (baby born very prematurely) and a miscarriage with baby number 20. Although, I know she has said she wants another. I believe God has said enough!

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My father-in-law's mom and Dad had 14. When his uncle's wife left him, his mother and father took in the uncle and his son in as well. At one point, his mom as cooking three meals a day from scratch for about 18 people. (School was walking distance; no cafeteria.) As the oldest, my father in law had to quit school at 16 to help support the family and, as the females got older, they helped the mom with the cooking, cleaning and laundry.

Unlike the Duggars, this was in a small city apt. Top floor of a walk up. The only place to hang laundry was on the roof of the apartment building across the street, also a walk up. 18 people without a lot of changes of clothing, or even space to store a lot, assuming there was money to buy a lot. But there wasn't enough money to buy a lot of anything. Even a free public school diploma for my father in law.

And they want to outlaw contraception again?

Thank you for restating it and after reading your reply. I think it is horrible to want to get rid of birth control.

Yes, it's a bear all right. We thought that was all in the past--the fight over contraception and back alley or coat hanger abortions. Even thought we were beyond having women harassed as they entered a clinic for maybe the worst day of their lives, albeit a relatively safe one.. Yet, here we are, worrying about it, again. And there's the Duggars, having every baby they can, to raise good God fearing RWers to vote against us.

very anti war and very anti government libertarian. So if you ask him about any expansionist, war fighting US president, he is bound to find something negative to say about him.

from. They have not creeds or such and each minister is in charge of what his own church preaches. They were not seen as a dominant denomination until the tv preachers came along to "excite" the uneducated.

Many have little theological training and no rules to go by. Since their preachers can do anything they want it often comes down to what an individual preacher wants to teach. Or wants to politicize.

A little story to give you the idea:

My grandmothers house was one door down from the local Baptist church. One Sunday morning church let out and they moved down the sidewalk to their cars. We could hear them fighting all the way - screaming and shaking their fists at each other. The gist of the argument was who was truly a Christian: the preacher's sermon had compared the actions of a Christian and a non-Christian: smoking, drinking, etc. The members were now fighting over which of them fit the bill. It was actually one of the funniest things I have ever seen. Judge not.

In Europe, intellectuals dismissed state religion as the handmaiden to and apologist for autocracies. This bred a healthy skepticism about both religion and autocracy seeing as how they were joined at the hip for centuries.

Here, the religious freedom which Madison and Jefferson propounded they thought would be applicable to the Quakers and people like Roger Williams, not three-toothed genetically-defective snake-handling morons and their slicked-up modern counterparts, dingbat faith healers/teevee preachers whose sole goal in life is to fleece every penny out of the dumbass masses and relocate their cash to the Cayman Islands while preaching a "gospel" straight out of Giovanni Gentile's "The Doctrine of Fascism."

That "religious freedom" allows any uneducated dingbat to grab a bible, set themselves up as a "preacher" and start making "authoritative pronounceents" about the will of gawwwwwwwd. As Mark Twain said, religion was invented when the first con man met the first fool" and nowhere is that more universally true than in the good ol' US of A. And given Barnum's Law - that for every sucker there are two born to take him, this is one of the main things greasing this country's skid into a veritable black hole of idiocy.

"It is easy with the bible to pretend you are in showbiz." = Frank Zappa

So we have the Civil War that guy what's his name from Fox, doesn't like. Then there is the imaginary war against Christmas.

I suspect that's true in many other places. They're happy to attach themselves to Lincoln's name, they just don't like most of that icky stuff he actually did.

I wonder how much he actually knows about the Confederacy, really.

What the hell?

of the entire Confederacy, and Lincoln's attempts to form some workable compromise with them and save the Union. Yes, it was all Lincoln's fault.

He may be a decent judge, but he sucks as a historian.

Yea, I'd delete the real life Facebook info, as others have said.