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alp227

(32,034 posts)
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 03:14 AM Nov 2014

Teen given 7-year sentence for skirt-burning on Oakland bus

The mother of an agender teen whose skirt was set aflame on an AC Transit bus in Oakland last year told the 17-year-old attacker Friday that he did a “horrible, terrible thing” but added, “We do not hate you.”

“Hate only leads to more hatred and anger,” Debbie Crandall told a teary-eyed Richard Thomas, moments before he was sentenced to seven years at a state juvenile center for severely burning 19-year-old Sasha Fleischman, who is now a student at Massachusetts Institute of Technology in Cambridge.

“I’m hoping you gain some understanding in the years to come,” Crandall said.

Thomas did not speak in the Oakland courtroom, but his attorney, William Du Bois, told Judge Paul Delucchi, “What he thought was a prank exploded into a tragedy of major proportions.” Du Bois said outside court that his client “will be eternally sorry.”

full: http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Mom-in-Oakland-skirt-burning-attack-We-do-not-5893393.php

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Teen given 7-year sentence for skirt-burning on Oakland bus (Original Post) alp227 Nov 2014 OP
Not enough scarystuffyo Nov 2014 #1
What do you base that off of? ZombieHorde Nov 2014 #2
Typical emotional armchair judging without any real knowledge of the individual, Live and Learn Nov 2014 #3
Things like this make me sad. F4lconF16 Nov 2014 #4
Well said.. sendero Nov 2014 #5

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
2. What do you base that off of?
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 04:45 AM
Nov 2014

Do you feel he will still be a threat after seven years? Do you think a longer sentence would make him safer to the community he would eventually be released in? Do you think he should ever be released?

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
3. Typical emotional armchair judging without any real knowledge of the individual,
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 06:52 AM
Nov 2014

deed, extenuating circumstance, or his reason (or lack of it) for committing the deed is my guess.

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
4. Things like this make me sad.
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 08:44 AM
Nov 2014

A teen who has been attacked in a horrific manner, and subjected to hate that absolutely no one should have to be. Who knows if they'll be able to overcome what they've now had to go through, are going through.

Another teen going to jail for much of his young adult life, who on return to society will be poorly adjusted and much more likely to commit crime.

I don't know. I don't want to see him get away without punishment. In an attack like this, as vicious as it was, it deserves some prison time. But how much? Wouldn't an intensive therapy/rehabilitation program be more effective, more beneficial to society in the long run? How much will jail teach him, and how much will it teach him that it shouldn't?

I often hate people like him. I wish I didn't, and I work not to, for what good it does. I wish I could be like the mother in this story, but I'm not. I have a hard time forgiving people when they hurt others with purpose. It's very difficult for me to understand how someone could knowingly do things like that to another human being. There's no way for them to explain to me that they didn't know what they were doing. In many ways, I want to see him locked up for a long time.

But he's 17. He'll be getting out when he's 24. His life is probably over, for the most part. And that makes me sad, despite what I think of him. I have little pity for him, though, and maybe I should.

And on the other side, there is a person who is now scarred for the rest of their life, both physically and mentally. There is an untold amount of damage to them and their family. I am thankful and have much admiration for his parents. I am not that good of a person. I hope that eventually they are all able to heal in the ways they need to.

The whole thing brings me nothing but sorrow.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
5. Well said..
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 09:00 AM
Nov 2014

... pretty much how I feel.

In a case like this you have to wonder, did the perp really not get that he was going to cause serious injury? It is possible that he is that dumb, lots of people are.

But that is not in any way an excuse. The article says his 7 years might be reduced to 5 if he behaves. Maybe he will learn something from it all.

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