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Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 10:38 AM Nov 2014

police spent 11 million, 48 days, to find man hiding on small patch of land



Pennsylvania authorities spent more than $11 million during the 48-day manhunt for alleged ambush killer Eric Frien, who is accused of gunning down a state trooper in September and then eluding police for weeks in a heavily-wooded part the state.

Pennsylvania state police said the majority of those costs, $10.4 million, were spent on personnel services, including $6.8 million in overtime. Frein, 31, was captured outside an abandoned airport hanger in Tannersville, about 90 miles north of Philadelphia, on Oct. 30. Nearly 1,000 law enforcement officers searched for Frein before his capture.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/police-spent-11-million-hunt-trooper-slay-suspect-eric-frein-n248971
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police spent 11 million, 48 days, to find man hiding on small patch of land (Original Post) Sunlei Nov 2014 OP
That is a damn expensive posse. SamKnause Nov 2014 #1
Ya think they woulda spent that if... TreasonousBastard Nov 2014 #2
Somebody give me a hard dollar figure, please. Orrex Nov 2014 #3
Well, I'm not that good at it either... ret5hd Nov 2014 #4
Hard to say, honestly. Orrex Nov 2014 #6
The Olympic bomber in Atlanta might be a good WhiteTara Nov 2014 #17
I think the point is they wouldn't have spent that much if it had not been a cop NV Whino Nov 2014 #5
cost is not a deciding matter in these kind of cases. JohLast Nov 2014 #8
You are missing the point NV Whino Nov 2014 #10
They spent a lot finding the Boston marathon bombers muriel_volestrangler Nov 2014 #15
They did, but NV Whino Nov 2014 #19
That's spin Orrex Nov 2014 #20
If a heavily armed killer was hiding out in the woods in your neighborhood, Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #21
Really? Savannahmann Nov 2014 #18
I'm thinking a shit-load of dimes. Brother Buzz Nov 2014 #13
It's a MyOwnPeace Nov 2014 #16
I wonder who paid for it, and how? DFW Nov 2014 #7
How much do you think they should have spent? Lurks Often Nov 2014 #9
Define 'small patch of land' please. Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #11
So should armed killers hiding in the woods only be hunted Monday through Friday, 9 to 5? Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #12
I am sorry they had to spend that kind of money to find a killer. Nt seabeyond Nov 2014 #14
Yet we have no money to fund basic social services daredtowork Nov 2014 #22
Is the difference that they knew who they were looking for, and that hedgehog Nov 2014 #23

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
3. Somebody give me a hard dollar figure, please.
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 11:06 AM
Nov 2014

How much should they have spent?

I'm just no good at figuring these things out.

ret5hd

(20,499 posts)
4. Well, I'm not that good at it either...
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 11:35 AM
Nov 2014

but TreasonousBastard does raise an interesting point. I would be interested to read your take on it.

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
6. Hard to say, honestly.
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 11:43 AM
Nov 2014

Do we have a lot of examples of previous manhunts for well-equipped non-cop-killers with a stated terrorist agenda and wilderness survival skills?

WhiteTara

(29,718 posts)
17. The Olympic bomber in Atlanta might be a good
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 12:51 PM
Nov 2014

comparison. Greater land area, but still comparable.

NV Whino

(20,886 posts)
5. I think the point is they wouldn't have spent that much if it had not been a cop
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 11:36 AM
Nov 2014

In California a few weeks back, two officers were killed. The manhunt, fortunately ending after four hours, included police, highway patrol and FBI, and helicopters and dogs. Lots of each. I sincerely doubt there would have been that much manpower for a 7-11 clerk.

 

JohLast

(81 posts)
8. cost is not a deciding matter in these kind of cases.
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 11:51 AM
Nov 2014

They were looking for a murderer. Police departments will use every resource they can to find these kind of trash.

NV Whino

(20,886 posts)
10. You are missing the point
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 11:59 AM
Nov 2014

The point is who the victim is. The question (or speculation) is, would they have mustered that amount of manpower for a 7-11 clerk?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
15. They spent a lot finding the Boston marathon bombers
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 12:30 PM
Nov 2014

The victims were civilians, until the police officer was killed during the manhunt.

NV Whino

(20,886 posts)
19. They did, but
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 01:20 PM
Nov 2014

A major, televised bombing with multiple victims, reeking of terrorism is not the same as a 7-11 clerk.

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
20. That's spin
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 02:27 PM
Nov 2014

They weren't hunting a 7-11 clerk. They were hunting an armed murderer with a clearly stated terrorist agenda and wilderness survival skills.

We might as well call the Boston manhunt "a search for two kids."

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
21. If a heavily armed killer was hiding out in the woods in your neighborhood,
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 03:19 PM
Nov 2014

I suspect that you would want the police to expend every effort to find him, regardless of who the previous victims of his murders had been.

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
18. Really?
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 01:04 PM
Nov 2014

Wow, that's interesting. Since this story was broken a couple days ago.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2835444/One-LA-s-wanted-fugitives-run-murder-12-years-ARRESTED-living-new-life-carpenter-police-Facebook.html

Now, in that story, one of Los Angeles's most wanted was hiding, in plain sight, working as a carpenter, in Riverside County, which is right next door, for twelve years. They found him when one of the Detectives on light duty was checking out facebook posts and recognized the picture. I wonder how much money they spent on that manhunt?

If you want to see the cops roll out the overtime and go hog wild chasing a criminal, make the crime against a cop. The rest of us, not so much.

Remember the Washington Sniper? I don't remember checkpoints and massive manhunts for them. Now Christopher Dorner was so dangerous, they shot up a truck with two women who were delivering the newspapers to the neighborhood where a cop lived, and got away with it. They closed every road anywhere near where they thought the bad guy might be.



Didn't see that with the hunt for the Serial Killer in Kansas. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Rader

So murder isn't exactly the crime that was being pursued. It was the fact that the ones threatened, were cops. You can admit it now man, we all know the truth.

DFW

(54,409 posts)
7. I wonder who paid for it, and how?
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 11:47 AM
Nov 2014

In Belgium, for example, there is a brigade of federal cops looking for "money laundering," which is so vague, they almost call anyone with more than $1000 in cash a money launderer to justify their not catching guys who really do hide billions. So, due to budget overruns, they have an unpaid bill with the Belgian Telecom for €45,000 for expensive wiretaps that they have put on various phones around Europe (yes, they can tap phones in other countries without local permission, welcome to the EU).

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
9. How much do you think they should have spent?
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 11:58 AM
Nov 2014

All murderers are dangerous, cop killers tend to be a bit more dangerous then most, since they have shown the willingness and ability to murder trained, armed individuals. I'm inclined to think that Frien fully intended to kill more police if the opportunity had presented itself.

Since I am sure someone will be along to criticize, I am NOT saying a police officer's life is worth more or less then a convenience store clerk or anyone else.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
12. So should armed killers hiding in the woods only be hunted Monday through Friday, 9 to 5?
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 12:15 PM
Nov 2014

That would certainly make it easier for such criminals to avoid capture.

Or are you saying that police should not be paid overtime?

Out of all the things that taxpayers' money is spent on, is this the one to kick up a stink about?

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
23. Is the difference that they knew who they were looking for, and that
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 04:30 PM
Nov 2014

the signs were that if he wasn't hunted (and therefore on the run) he was going to kill more people?

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