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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBill Maher to Rand Paul: "You could have me on your team"
I have been worried about this motherfucker, Rand Paul
he is a nightmare
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Bill Maher just wants pot legalized.
randys1
(16,286 posts)is interesting
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)thats all he has for them. But as long as he has that R after his name...it will NEVER happen.
randys1
(16,286 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)The Republican base is 4 square against it. Poof...non-issue.
randys1
(16,286 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)you don't know Republicans very well do you?
Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)He got thru to Millennials linking the NSA to their cell phones
randys1
(16,286 posts)care about their issues.
If they see an opportunity to crush the lifelong dream and work of Hillary Clinton who is likely meant to be our first Woman president, they will do it.
Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)Fuck that.
We don't owe her a damn thing.
The only people meant for power is royalty
randys1
(16,286 posts)Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)My point is based an an up thread point that rand could very well be a formidable opponent.
He got a standing ovation at Berkeley!
Ykcutnek
(1,305 posts)I was a complete anti-government nut job for about 4 years (2007-2011).
Eventually saw through all the libertarian bullshit about mid-2011. I had an epiphany following the Gabby Giffords shooting and slowly but surely saw things from a completely different perspective.
Been voting a straight Democratic ticket ever since.
mountain grammy
(26,624 posts)I have a couple of friends who have crossed over. They did it by researching what Fox was saying and realized it was all lies, and they started watching the Daily Show and Colbert Report.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Then we will have to step up our strategy. Whoever we nominate will have to deal with is libertarian bent. He still has issues that are outside mainstream America and those will have to be the focus of the Democratic campaign. Nothing to fear really.
gwheezie
(3,580 posts)hes already flip flopped several times and in the same week. I think he'd have a hard time getting nominated
femmocrat
(28,394 posts)He is looking almost sane. His anti-war stance will resonate with many dems, I fear. He has a kind of charisma that the other R-retreads lack.
After GWB, I don't take anything for granted.
randys1
(16,286 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)to exploit (not the least his being a bit of a racist and his disrespect for the poor). But he'd attract a lot of voters from those who voted in the mid-terms and those who sat at home.
I know a lot of folks have issues with Maher, but he did give a Million bucks to support Obama. I suspect a lot like him might do the same for a "compassionate sounding" Republican/Libertarian who supports end to drug war, less military action, etc.
It's going to be a couple of years of real anxiety.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)me off allowing that worm to bob and weave talk around the subjects. Then he rants about not voting in his new rules segment. IMO I think it's better to not vote if one would have to vote for Ayn Rand Paul.
randys1
(16,286 posts)power like owning prisons, he didnt respond to that AT ALL
why?
Because he loves Wall street and will gladly do away with government
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)Koch brothers have been life long buddies of Ron and now Rand Paul.
librechik
(30,674 posts)Which is what they really are, PR pilots, not politicians.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)What a shock.
librechik
(30,674 posts)Conservatives have a lot of people convinced that if GOP are given ALL the reins of peer, (none of this checks and balance divided government nonsense) they will do all that Obama has tried to do for the people, only better and more. But this time under the benevolent authorship of conservatives (and here is the closer) After all. Nixon invented the EPA and if you look deeply enough into libertarian academia, they actually have a plan for all the problems we have. I assume the plans wouldn't work without ENORMOUS government investment, which just makes the PuKKKes a bunch of liars. But they could never pull it off because after the collegial veil is pulled down, they are nothing but a bunch of mostly male individuals who hate cooperation and civility. The Pauls included.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)He may say he is isolationist, but he will get nowhere unless the MIC is convinced he will play along with their scams.
randys1
(16,286 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)Last edited Sat Nov 15, 2014, 12:29 PM - Edit history (1)
he would use a drone to kill a bank robber or something like that? Never mind one of his goons stomping on that girl's head. He's noooooo good!!!
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)I would guess that his hypothetical support for Ayn Paul comes with a number of insurmountable conditions.
I recognize the areas where my beliefs and Paul's overlap. And yet I utterly reject his ideology, and furthermore I reject him as a person. He's some kind of weird combination of fascist libertarian.
FUCK RAND PAUL. It can't be said enough.
But it has to be more than that. His politics and ideology have to be exposed and rejected in concise arguments that peel away his political support.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)More to the point, they find him to be sort of amusing. I live in a State that just legalized cannabis, so that's a big issue here and no one thinks he actually favors the policies we favor. No one. Not even the Republicans. They really dislike him.
'What's that on his head' 'Deputy Dawg' and 'Senator Elvis Complex'
I'm always amazed when I read posts that say 'I know lots of people who like him' because it is so very different from my own experience. I don't doubt it, but I would like to report the opposite since it is also the case.
xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)anti-choice. So much for that libertarian mask he likes to wear. He may be stuck in his 2nd year of college, carrying a torch for Ayn but HIS choices, reproductive health, equal pay are all anti-woman.
craigmatic
(4,510 posts)bhikkhu
(10,718 posts)TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)and kicking his legs out from underneath him.
Get off the stupid and failed drug war, propping up over powered police, backing stupid and random ass wars, and get back to supporting basic civil liberties and all he has got is regular ass TeaPubliKlan bullshit.
The only plausible threat he poses is because of a hide bound and foolish insistence on doing the wrong things for absurd reasons.
Fear of lame ass Randroid is directly in line with an insane insistence on doing really stupid and wrong things that allow him a platform.
If he is any sort of threat, it is about 100% our own fool fault. He is nothing.