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Newsjock

(11,733 posts)
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 11:26 AM Nov 2014

Russian TV says photos show MH17 shot down by Ukraine; 'crude fabrication,' critic says

Source: Reuters

Russian state-controlled TV has broadcast what it called "sensational" photographs, which it said supported Moscow's theory that Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down by a Ukrainian fighter jet.

... Since being aired by Channel One, the photographs have met with widespread scepticism.

Andrei Menshenin, a commentator for independent Russian radio station Ekho Moskvy, called the TV report a "pseudo-sensation", and said the angle of attack indicated by the photographs did not correspond to the location of the damage.

Bellingcat, a British investigative journalism website, described the photographs as "a crude fabrication", highlighting what it said were several inconsistencies, which included signs that the photos had been partly compiled from historical Google Earth imagery dating from 2012.

Read more: http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/11/15/ukraine-crisis-mh17-images-idUKL6N0T509V20141115

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Russian TV says photos show MH17 shot down by Ukraine; 'crude fabrication,' critic says (Original Post) Newsjock Nov 2014 OP
Debunked so fast there wasn't time for geek tragedy Nov 2014 #1
Outside of Russia, GGJohn Nov 2014 #3
the Putin lovers will be here shortly Duckhunter935 Nov 2014 #2
Are the photos online? Archae Nov 2014 #4
here is a link Duckhunter935 Nov 2014 #7
Stupid people. Igel Nov 2014 #5
And if you really zoom in NickB79 Nov 2014 #6
That's one warped picture of a goose. Igel Nov 2014 #8
Cue Robert Parry to prop up the story...nt SidDithers Nov 2014 #9
Not even the right kind of plane. Codeine Nov 2014 #10

Igel

(35,320 posts)
5. Stupid people.
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 12:15 PM
Nov 2014

Channel One broadcasts in Russian for Russians. I do believe it's the one that had Yarosh winning back in the summer, not Poroshenko, and by the same amount that the virus that had infected the Ukrainian election servers was going to report had the virus not been caught.

Wasn't it the "child crucified" station, as well?

However, the counterreports will not reach Channel One's audience. It is more "proof" that the West and Ukrainians are unfairly ganging up on Russia and are themselves evil. The country can take a lot and do a lot of bad if most of the populace believes something like that.

Take Soviet times, when the populace was fairly well convinced that they had the highest standard of living on Earth, had the freest press, etc. More than one Russian then was convinced that the US was about to explode in mass riots and chuck off the bonds of capitalism because of the millions of starving people, the illiteracy rate, the lack of opportunity. By the late '80s the exchange faculty I knew were really quite cynical about it all. They showed up and lived like paupers, and during the "stranovedenie" courses would preach the official party line. They had the highest standard of living, the best consumer goods, the most open society. Then, a few days before they went home, they'd go on a massive shopping spree and buy electronics, clothes, luxury foods. "Because," they'd say at their farewell parties, "it's hard to find enough electronics or clothes of any quality, and what I'm taking back is better than anything available in the Soviet Union." And they were shopping at K-Mart and Safeway.

When faith died, the USSR died. Now the faith is that all their problems result from Western plots, corruption, decadence, and the outcome of all those Western plots is humiliation. They are the center of our world, they believe. Which means that in a warped sense the West is again the center of their world.

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
6. And if you really zoom in
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 01:22 PM
Nov 2014

You'll see Putin racing to the rescue: ?time=1347012998&hash=587f254ff1592e9433555fa13eb32ad6

Sadly, he was delayed because he had to stop a meteorite from destroying the Earth:

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