All the way from Canada

The pipeline is going to happen with this Congress, let's get something for it.

I was afraid to click on this OP - in case the suggested rider said Hillary must be the Dem candidate for prez....

It's going to happen no matter what we do. A rider could be the silver lining.

That'd end it in a hurry.

I think we all are seeing the inevitable.

I was thinking what can we get for it.

A 99% tax on all proceeds from the pipeline which goes to fund free higher education for everyone. And single payer. And solar panels on every roof. And updating the electricity grid. And a 25% raise for every teacher in the country. Man, I like this. Too bad Democrats don't have the guts to do this.

What I don't like is, well, nothing we can do about it now. But vote or it's all your fault!

massive fines for any spills. I'm talking amounts that begin with a B.

Shouldn't be any opposition to that, right? They say it's totally safe.

Double and triple backups, daily inspections, and large $$ in escrow up front to pay in advance for clean up of any spills.

I also like the end product being sold back into the U.S. plus all proceeds to clean/green/renewable subsidies.

It's so safe, right, let them put their money on it. Oh wait...

That all those who profit from that pipeline shall be stoned to death, on live television, by citizens who use that water to live.

If they're so certain it will never leak, it shouldn't be a problem.

... "should a spill or other accident causing damage occur, there will be a fine levied against the owner of 10,000 times the actual damages, non-dischargable by bankruptcy or any other ownership manouevre."

Probably not. The Senate could attach the rider and the pipeline would pass with it; but then the conference committee would take it out.

More likely the Senate Republicans would just kill the whole thing and take it up in January, when it would pass without any real threat of a rider.

Tax rate to 90% 4) Publicly finance elections 5) provide free education to everyone
6) Restrict the SCOTUS from interfering in Campaign Financing laws.
7) Outlaw any vote counting method that is not transparent and verifiable

Actually two riders.

1) All products from oil from the KeyStone Pipeline have to stay in the US.

2) Other US oil products equal to the amount from the Keystone Oil has to stay in the US.


The reason for #1 is obvious.

The reason for #2 is to prevent transhipping an equal amount of oil to other countries. It would actually double the supply.

On a more serious note, the cost of extracting the Canadian Tar Sands Heavy Crude is actually greater than the $70 a barrel it is selling for right now. I don't think the pipeline will be used that much.

How about Obama just vetoing the GD thing.

We can fight it and lose, or get something.

Of course they'll get no concessions of any kind

That way, he can be the first to reap the "benefits" of the project.

We don't need anything in return.

along with all major stockholders.

That oil is highly abrasive and there will be leaks as sure as I'm typing here now and the last thing we need is to contaminate our water sources with what will be mostly canadian oil going to foreign markets. How difficult is that to understand I ask?

I worked for a while where they transported sand in pipe, (foundry,) and I'm here to tell you it eats the pipe away in short order. Where I worked they fluidized the sand with air and piped it up and over the roof to the core room where it was needed and it was a constant battle to repair that line. It matters not what is used to fluidize the sand with either oil or air it still will be eating at that piping.

No riders, no pipeline period