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Octafish

(55,745 posts)
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 11:59 AM Nov 2014

The Siege of Julian Assange is a Farce (John Pilger)

The siege of Knightsbridge is a farce. For two years, an exaggerated, costly police presence around the Ecuadorean embassy in London has served no purpose other than to flaunt the power of the state. Their quarry is an Australian charged with no crime, a refugee from gross injustice whose only security is the room given him by a brave South American country. His true crime is to have initiated a wave of truth-telling in an era of lies, cynicism and war.

by John Pilger
Center for Research on Globalisation, Nov. 16, 2014

The persecution of Julian Assange must end. Even the British government clearly believes it must end. On 28 October, the deputy foreign minister, Hugo Swire, told Parliament he would “actively welcome” the Swedish prosecutor in London and “we would do absolutely everything to facilitate that.” The tone was impatient.

The Swedish prosecutor, Marianne Ny, has refused to come to London to question Assange about allegations of sexual misconduct in Stockholm in 2010 – even though Swedish law allows for it and the procedure is routine for Sweden and the UK. The documentary evidence of a threat to Assange’s life and freedom from the United States – should he leave the embassy – is overwhelming. On May 14 this year, US court files revealed that a “multi subject investigation” against Assange was “active and ongoing.”

Ny has never properly explained why she will not come to London, just as the Swedish authorities have never explained why they refuse to give Assange a guarantee that they will not extradite him on to the US under a secret arrangement agreed between Stockholm and Washington. In December 2010, the Independent revealed that the two governments had discussed his onward extradition to the US before the European Arrest Warrant was issued.

Perhaps an explanation is that, contrary to its reputation as a liberal bastion, Sweden has drawn so close to Washington that it has allowed secret CIA “renditions” – including the illegal deportation of refugees. The rendition and subsequent torture of two Egyptian political refugees in 2001 was condemned by the UN Committee against Torture, Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch; the complicity and duplicity of the Swedish state are documented in successful civil litigation and WikiLeaks cables. In the summer of 2010, Assange had been in Sweden to talk about WikiLeaks revelations of the war in Afghanistan – in which Sweden had forces under US command.

The Americans are pursuing Assange because WikiLeaks exposed their epic crimes in Afghanistan and Iraq: the wholesale killing of tens of thousands of civilians, which they covered up; and their contempt for sovereignty and international law, as demonstrated vividly in their leaked diplomatic cables.

CONTINUED...

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-siege-of-julian-assange-is-a-farce/5414340
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The Siege of Julian Assange is a Farce (John Pilger) (Original Post) Octafish Nov 2014 OP
A miracle has happened. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2014 #1
It IS amazing. There is NOTHING noble about destroying the Public's right-to-know... Octafish Nov 2014 #2
... SidDithers Nov 2014 #3
Sid, please don't leave DU RobertEarl Nov 2014 #7
I wouldn't leave. I'd just change my name, and post using 2 accounts for a little while... SidDithers Nov 2014 #8
Because fascism is so funny. Octafish Nov 2014 #13
... SidDithers Nov 2014 #14
Nice smear. Octafish Nov 2014 #23
Just curious Wella Nov 2014 #4
Don't know. If he wasn't holed up in the embassy, we might. Octafish Nov 2014 #11
Speaking of the F-35..I think it was bait dixiegrrrrl Nov 2014 #12
K&R The depth/gravity of the government crimes exposed woo me with science Nov 2014 #5
What keeps us free is the Bill of Rights. So, on the Horizon: 'Super Injunctions' Octafish Nov 2014 #15
^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^ woo me with science Nov 2014 #16
Breaking bail and being a fugitive from justice is a crime hack89 Nov 2014 #6
Don't confuse 'em with facts... SidDithers Nov 2014 #10
That's right, don't confuse them…. MrMickeysMom Nov 2014 #17
... SidDithers Nov 2014 #18
the basic idea is outrage that the law applies to him treestar Nov 2014 #19
Got a link for any of that? Octafish Nov 2014 #24
Keep repeating over and over treestar Nov 2014 #25
Wikileaks soldier MANNING reveals why he shared secrets Octafish Nov 2014 #26
K&R elias49 Nov 2014 #9
I agree. He could probably work out a time served deal if he just came out now. Recursion Nov 2014 #20
Perhaps with the Brits for violating bail hack89 Nov 2014 #21
There's no evidence they wouldn't use their version of due process treestar Nov 2014 #28
kick woo me with science Nov 2014 #22
Sweden Ranks Second in the World in Per Capita Weapons Exports GreatGazoo Nov 2014 #27
lol complete straw man treestar Nov 2014 #29
I'm sure you'll figure it out....eventually GreatGazoo Nov 2014 #30

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
1. A miracle has happened.
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 12:47 PM
Nov 2014

I never ever ever thought I could see anything about Nixon in a positive light.
But not even he would have been this Gestapo about Assange.
Nixon was a left wing liberal next to our Gov,.on this behavior.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
2. It IS amazing. There is NOTHING noble about destroying the Public's right-to-know...
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 02:01 PM
Nov 2014

...what their governments do.

Slide Show: 18 Disturbing Things We Wouldn't Know Without WikiLeaks

EXCERPT...

The Saudis, our allies, are among the leading funders of international terrorism.

CONTINUED...

link:http://www.thenation.com/slideshow/157778/slide-show-18-disturbing-things-we-wouldnt-know-without-wikileaks#

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
7. Sid, please don't leave DU
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 06:30 PM
Nov 2014

You kick some of the best posts, and that pic of you, which some might even think is cute, sums up well your existence.

The full on attack on Assange is a true travesty of justice. It is of course meant also to send a message to others who might try to bring the Truth to the world, that they too will be viciously hunted.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
8. I wouldn't leave. I'd just change my name, and post using 2 accounts for a little while...
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 07:02 PM
Nov 2014

Like you did.

Sid

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
13. Because fascism is so funny.
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 08:42 PM
Nov 2014
PRISM and the Rise of a New Fascism (John Pilger)

We Are All Witnesses Now

by JOHN PILGER
CounterPunch WEEKEND EDITION JUNE 21-23, 2013

EXCERPT...

Snowden’s revelation that Washington has used Google, Facebook, Apple and other giants of consumer technology to spy on almost everyone is further evidence of a modern form of fascism. Having nurtured oldfashioned fascists around the world – from Latin America to Africa and Indonesia – the genie has risen at home. Understanding this is as important as understanding the criminal abuse of technology.

Fred Branfman, who exposed the “secret” destruction of tiny Laos by the US air force in the 1960s and 1970s, provides an answer to those who still wonder how a liberal African-American president, a professor of constitutional law, can command such lawlessness. “Under Mr Obama, America is still far from being a classic police-state . . .” he wrote. “But no president has done more to create the infrastructure for a possible future police state.” Why? Because Obama understands that his role is not to indulge those who voted for him but to expand “the most powerful institution in the history of the world, one that has killed, wounded or made homeless well over 20 million human beings, mostly civilians, since 1962”.

In the new American cyberpower, only the revolving doors have changed. The director of Google Ideas, Jared Cohen, was an adviser to Condoleezza Rice, the former secretary of state in the Bush administration who lied that Saddam Hussein could attack the US with nuclear weapons. Cohen and Google’s executive chairman, Eric Schmidt – they met in the ruins of Iraq – have co-authored a book, The New Digital Age, endorsed as visionary by the former CIA director Michael Hayden and the war criminals Henry Kissinger and Tony Blair. The authors make no mention of the Prism spying programme, revealed by Snowden, that provides the NSA with access to all of us who use Google.

Control and dominance are the two words that make sense of this. These are exercised by political, economic and military design, of which mass surveillance is an essential part, but also by insinuating propaganda into the public consciousness. This was Edward Bernays’s point. His two most successful PR campaigns convinced Americans that they should go to war in 1917 and persuaded women to smoke in public; cigarettes were “torches of freedom” that would hasten women’s liberation.

CONTINUED...

http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/06/21/prism-and-the-rise-of-a-new-fascism/

I don't think there's anything funny about fascism.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
11. Don't know. If he wasn't holed up in the embassy, we might.
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 07:21 PM
Nov 2014

Wikileaks has revealed criminality on the part of the US Goverment, too.

War is big business. It's an insider's game. It's why we have so much secret government.

The last remaining enormous wads of cash in the Treasury are to be had for purchasing today's modern military industrial intel complex.



There's more than a trillion to be grabbed -- just for the Lockheed-Martin F-35.

Now keeping tabs on us -- people interested in using some of the nation's treasure for more peaceful purposes -- are for-hire spies. How do I know this? Julian Assange and Anonymous:



WikiLeaks' Stratfor Dump Lifts Lid on Intelligence-Industrial Complex

WikiLeaks' latest release, of hacked emails from Stratfor, shines light on the murky world of private intelligence-gathering


by Pratap Chatterjee
Published on Tuesday, February 28, 2012 by The Guardian/UK

What price bad intelligence? Some 5m internal emails from Stratfor, an Austin, Texas-based company that brands itself as a "global intelligence" provider, were recently obtained by Anonymous, the hacker collective, and are being released in batches by WikiLeaks, the whistleblowing website, starting Monday.

The most striking revelation from the latest disclosure is not simply the military-industrial complex that conspires to spy on citizens, activists and trouble-causers, but the extremely low quality of the information available to the highest bidder. Clients of the company include Dow Chemical, Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman and Raytheon, as well as US government agencies like the Department of Homeland Security, the Defense Intelligence Agency and the Marines.

SNIP...

Assange notes that Stratfor is also seeking to profit directly from this information by partnering in an apparent hedge-fund venture with Shea Morenz, a former Goldman Sachs managing director. He points to an August 2011 document, marked "DO NOT SHARE OR DISCUSS", from Stratfor CEO George Friedman, which says:

"What StratCap will do is use our Stratfor's intelligence and analysis to trade in a range of geopolitical instruments, particularly government bonds, currencies and the like."


CONTINUED...

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/02/28-10?print



If it weren't for Anonymous and WikiLeaks, we probably wouldn't know about any of that.

It's no joke. It's no unimportant story. It's no boring history. Run by insiders, the secret government is key to making the system run on behalf of the few -- the 1-percent of 1-percent. Central to that is intelligence -- economically, politically and military useful information.

Which brings up the nation's purported free press, the only business mentioned by name in the entire United States Constitution, and how the organizations therein have miserably failed to feature prominently the sundry and myriad ways the insiders on Wall Street and their toadies in Washington do the work for Them.

The problem is systemic. The corruption is systemic.

Because it involves oversight of secret organizations -- the Pentagon, Homeland Security, CIA, etc -- Congress and the Administration often have no clue, let alone oversight, to what is happening because the corruption is marked "Top Secret."

Secret government also means We the People can't do our job as citizens, which is to hold them accountable and find the ones responsible in order to vote the crooks out and, it is hoped, the honest ones in.

With no citizen oversight, anything goes. And it doesn't stop.

Remember this fine fellow, US Navy fighter ace Randy "Duke" Cunningham?

Later a member of the United States Congress, he used his position to feather his nest, Big Time.



In his political career, Cunningham was a member of the Appropriations and Intelligence committees, and chaired the House Intelligence Subcommittee on Human Intelligence Analysis and Counterintelligence during the 109th Congress. He was considered a leading Republican expert on national security issues.

Currently, he's in USP Tuscon or another fine facility where he gets three squares, medical and dental.
He's due for release in a year or so. He'll be able to pick up his pension.

"The Duke Cunningham Act, also known as the Federal Pension Forfeiture Act, was introduced by U.S. Senator John F. Kerry in 2006. The bill would have denied pension benefits to any members of Congress convicted of bribery, conspiracy or perjury. The bill died in committee. (Source: The Press Enterprise)


Duke wasn't alone. He really was just one snake in a long line of snakes. Remember Dusty Foggo, Number 3 at CIA and close associate of CIA Director and former Congressman Porter Goss? Swells sitting atop the peak of political and military secrecy and power.

Unfortunately, when it comes to modern governance, no oversight means means the insiders are getting away with murder, and warmongering and treason and all the power that they bring. Appointed pretzeldent George W Bush on Valentine's Day 2007 put it in words: "Money trumps peace."



Secret government warmongering and war profiteering are systemic. Secret government is rotten to the core. What's more, in a democracy that once really was land of the free and home of the brave, secret government poses the greatest threat to true national security.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
12. Speaking of the F-35..I think it was bait
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 07:32 PM
Nov 2014

Recent revelations that China hacked into and stole F-35 systems plans and now is building their own, means it was either bait or that there will be
twice as many of the jets ..."mis-flying".

Tis the only explanation I have for us continuing all these years to throw money into a proven dud.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
5. K&R The depth/gravity of the government crimes exposed
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 03:51 PM
Nov 2014

is directly proportional to the viciousness of the government smear and propaganda campaigns and attempts to persecute those who exposed them.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
15. What keeps us free is the Bill of Rights. So, on the Horizon: 'Super Injunctions'
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 08:51 PM
Nov 2014
Wikileaks Reveals Super Injunction Blocking Reporting On Massive Australian Corruption Case Involving Leaders Of Malaysia, Indonesia & Vietnam

Tech Dirt, July 30, 2014
from the no-free-press-for-you dept

We've written about the problems of so-called super injunctions in the past (though mainly in the UK). This legal process not only keeps certain details under wraps concerning a lawsuit, but actually forbids the media from reporting on anything related to the case at all. Such a thing would be clear prior restraint and not allowed in the US, but apparently is considered legal in other parts of the world. However, Wikileaks has now revealed what appears to be a super injunction against reporting on a massive corruption case in Australia, involving the leaders of Malaysia, Indonesia and Vietnam, along with people at Australia's central bank, the Reserve Bank of Australia:

The super-injunction invokes “national security” grounds to prevent reporting about the case, by anyone, in order to “prevent damage to Australia's international relations”. The court-issued gag order follows the secret 19 June 2014 indictment of seven senior executives from subsidiaries of Australia's central bank, the Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA). The case concerns allegations of multi-million dollar inducements made by agents of the RBA subsidiaries Securency and Note Printing Australia in order to secure contracts for the supply of Australian-style polymer bank notes to the governments of Malaysia, Indonesia, Vietnam and other countries.

The suppression order lists 17 individuals, including "any current or former Prime Minister of Malaysia", “Truong Tan San, currently President of Vietnam", "Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono (also known as SBY), currently President of Indonesia (since 2004)", "Megawati Sukarnoputri (also known as Mega), a former President of Indonesia (2001–2004) and current leader of the PDI-P political party" and 14 other senior officials and relatives from those countries, who specifically may not be named in connection with the corruption investigation.

The document also specifically bans the publication of the order itself as well as an affidavit affirmed last month by Australia's representative to ASEAN Gillian Bird, who has just been appointed as Australia's Permanent Representative to the United Nations. The gag order effectively blacks out the largest high-level corruption case in Australia and the region.


It's the reasoning given that's most troubling:

The purpose of these orders is to prevent damage to Australia's international relations that may be caused by the publication of material that may damage the reputations of specified individuals who are not the subject of charges in these proceedings.


CONTINUED...

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140729/17501228048/wikileaks-reveals-super-injunuction-blocking-reporting-massive-australian-corruption-case-involving-leaders-malaysia-indonesia.shtml

UK, Australia, New Zealand and Canada have this keeping a lid on Truth. The only one of the Five Eyes without such a clamp on freedom of the press is the United States and that, thanks to the USA PATRIOT Act, we don't really know as that's Top Secret, may already be history.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
6. Breaking bail and being a fugitive from justice is a crime
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 04:11 PM
Nov 2014

There is an arrest warrant out for him.

The reason the prosecutor will not go to London is well known. She has stated her intention to arrest him as soon as the interview is concluded. She will not interview him unless he agrees to be taken into custody.

The reason the government will not guarantee no extradition to the US is that Sweden has an independent judiciary- judges will decide on extradition not the government.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
19. the basic idea is outrage that the law applies to him
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 04:56 AM
Nov 2014

he should be above the law in his own view and that of his supporters.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
24. Got a link for any of that?
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 10:03 AM
Nov 2014

From what I've seen, the US Government is cracking down on Assange because he published documents leaked to his organization that demostrate criminality on the part of officers of the US Government.

For instance:

[font size="6"][font color="red"]The Obama administration worked with Republicans to protect Bush officials who faced a criminal investigation in Spain for alleged torture.[/font color][/font size]

SOURCE: http://www.thenation.com/slideshow/157778/slide-show-18-disturbing-things-we-wouldnt-know-without-wikileaks#

treestar

(82,383 posts)
25. Keep repeating over and over
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 10:07 AM
Nov 2014

The US government has nothing to do with it and still has not pressed charges. We've been over the Swedish procedure again and again.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
26. Wikileaks soldier MANNING reveals why he shared secrets
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 10:31 AM
Nov 2014
The US soldier accused of giving large numbers of secret documents to Wikileaks has admitted he is guilty to 10 of the 22 charges against him. But he denied a more serious charge of aiding the enemy.

Steve Kingstone
BBC News, 1 March 2013

We now have a first-hand account of what compelled Bradley Manning to carry out the biggest leak of government secrets in American history.

He told the military court he'd been appalled by the "bloodlust" of a helicopter mission in Iraq - video of which he passed on to Wikileaks. He said that while serving in Iraq, he'd become depressed at what he called America's "obsession" with capturing and killing human targets. And that the American people should know the "true costs of war".

As for the leaked State Department cables, Private Manning said they [font color="red"]"documented backdoor deals and criminality" [/font color="red"] unbecoming of a superpower, and insisted his conscience was clear.

The military judge accepted the defendant's plea of guilty to 10 of the 22 counts. But Bradley Manning denies the most serious charge of aiding America's enemies - a charge which potentially carries a life sentence. Prosecutors have indicated that they plan to push ahead with a full court martial in the summer.

SOURCE w/audio: http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/learningenglish/language/wordsinthenews/2013/03/130301_witn_wikileaks.shtml

So, still no link to support your contention, right, treestar?

hack89

(39,171 posts)
21. Perhaps with the Brits for violating bail
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 07:24 AM
Nov 2014

I can't imagine the Swedes are in a generous mood after him fleeing the country to avoid arrest and then giving them the middle finger for four years. I think they want their pound of flesh. That and they don't want to explain to the public why their sexual assault laws don't apply to Assange.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
28. There's no evidence they wouldn't use their version of due process
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 10:37 AM
Nov 2014

I don't know if they do things like plea bargaining there, and maybe they would not be easy on him there. Given his attitude he would never plead anyway. He's just above the law, and should not have to answer to the Swedish courts in his opinion. If convicted after trial, he'd still be finding some way to claim the US is the real culprit!

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
27. Sweden Ranks Second in the World in Per Capita Weapons Exports
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 10:35 AM
Nov 2014
Institutions like the Nobel Prize have helped link Sweden’s international reputation to peace and reconciliation, but few people know Sweden is also one of the world’s top exporters of weapons. Sweden is among the world’s top arms exporters in per capita terms. Its clients include the United States and Britain, with shipments more than doubling since 2000.


http://www.democracynow.org/2008/12/9/sweden_ranks_second_in_the_world

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
30. I'm sure you'll figure it out....eventually
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 10:51 AM
Nov 2014

(hint: look up red herring vs straw man then try using the correct term next time)

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