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But Reid had no trouble securing the leadership spot because hell, if you are in a hole just keep right on digging until it becomes a grave. Common sense would not dictate such a thing but the Dems are just asking for a bigger shovel. This should do wonders for the party base that in a rejection of both President Barack Obama and the thorough rot of the party leadership stayed home in the mid-terms. There is already more trouble brewing with the desperate Senator Mary Landrieu of Louisiana getting behind a bill to approve the Keystone XL pipeline in the Senate next week. The Democrats are also scrambling to ensure that there will be no real reform of the NSA Stasi's domestic surveillance and data-mining programs. This will endear the party to environmentalists and progressives who will vote Green, libertarian or just stay home. It is fascinating to watch this slow motion train wreck because the party is determined to stay the course leading towards political extinction.
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The imminent TPP deal is especially vile in that it indicates a degree of collusion between Obama and newly crowned Republican Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell who are on the same page when it comes to screwing Americans over for their corporate benefactors. McConnell is taking fire from the right though so he has now launched the smokescreen of Obama's "War on Coal" after dear leader wandered off the reservation with his recent climate deal with China. This is the truest barometer of just how batshit f*cking crazy that America has become in that every goddamned thing has to be a "war". There is the war on drugs, the war on terror, the war on women, the war on obesity, the war on Christmas and far too many other "wars" to list here. What it all amounts to is a war on everything that was once decent in this country as well as a final pitchfork in the ass of anything that it was alleged to have once stood for. Why not just admit it that the war on stupidity was lost long ago. Our pathetically failed political system is a damning testament to that.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Last edited Sun Nov 16, 2014, 03:44 PM - Edit history (3)
We misunderstand politics and our politicians in 2014 when we assume their goal is always to win. That was the old system, democracy.
In oligarchy, the goal is using the two parties you own in whichever way best furthers the corporate agenda of the oligarchy.
This is not a problem of bad strategy in a functioning democratic contest. This is oligarchy pretending to be democracy. Corporate Democrats did everything possible to depress turnout in the midterms, from their utter lack of a positive agenda, to the outright campaign to demoralize and insult the base online, to the "Accept Doom" DCCC email campaign:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025736826
I believe the PTB have decided it's time for a Republican figurehead next time. The illusion of democracy is nearly dead, and will continue to die as all the elements of fascism continue to be put into place by our bipartisan, purchased cabal of a government. But putting a Republican in next time will at least offer a boost to the propaganda machine, as all the Third Way corporate shills and mouthpieces online will be able to put on their liberal costumes again and pretend to wail alongside the rest of us as the last vestiges of the democratic nation we once knew are drowned in the toilet, this time by Republicans. Of course, all that "opposition" will be carefully and mysteriously futile in terms of policy.
But the important thing is that Dems will be consistently SAYING the right things again, and looking like the firebrand populist party we need them to be.
And the people will be reassured that we really do still have a democracy, we can stop all this silly talk about oligarchy and needing fundamental change and such, and we can all go home and watch "Hunger Games" and grouse because our only problem will be that Republicans are in office for a little while and we need to get them out and the Third Way Democrats back in.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Old Nick
(468 posts)Now, ffs swat that fly! It's driving me NUTS!
Vincardog
(20,234 posts)stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)THEY don't lose when they lose an election, and I have little doubt that some elected Democrats don't mind not being in the majority (or even losing their race since they make bank even when they lose if they help block progressive legislation -- a Republican winning or a conservative Democrat winning certainly achieves that).
Corruption is rife, and things will continue to get worse for most until we build support and demand a progressive government. Electing conservative Democrats that undermine traditional Democratic values will ensure a progressive government will never occur. People will see their lives getting more and more difficult regardless of which party has power (sounds familiar) and tune out of the political process. Exactly what the financial elite want.
Conservative Democrats muddy the waters and make it very, very difficult for the average person that doesn't pay attention to politics to understand where the solution lies. Again, exactly what the financial elite want.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Yes, they do.
How often are we fed excuses for Democratic corruption that blame "timidity" or spinelessness or racism or simple ineptitude?
Compare that to how often we see any mention, let alone serious discussion, in the MSM about the elephant in the room: the vast amounts of money pouring into Washington, the revolving door between Washington and Wall Street, and the tremendous payback these politicians receive.
Those trading away our democracy and our children's futures will be well cared-for for the rest of their lives.
Tashca
(974 posts)I have to agree with what you are saying here. Your scenario makes more sense than anything else I have read. The thought of losing intentionally for whatever gain is not a natural thought for most people.
Again, I agree that the real people in power will next choose a Republican. Then we start this whole thing over again without anyone truly seeing the deceit going on here.
I haven't been around for awhile.......posts like this give me hope that more will see the light. Maybe I will venture back for awhile....
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)Kermitt Gribble
(1,855 posts)The mask came off (for me, at least) when the Dems won majorities in 2006, yet the Bush agenda continued.
polichick
(37,152 posts)or when rigged voting machines in Ohio "reelected" Bush.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)bbgrunt
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polichick
(37,152 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Like why Democrats feel like strangers in our own Party.
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)I'll wait to hear from Examiner.com before rushing to judgement.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)I didn't realize the OP owned OpEdNews.
JEB
(4,748 posts)Al Franken when he was on Air America.
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)JEB
(4,748 posts)record low turn out. All that money and the accompanying corruption buys a shitload of cynicism.
otohara
(24,135 posts)10-12-14 - Five million more Democrats voted vs the GOP.
It will take 100 years to undo the gerrymandering maps that favor the GOP
AnalystInParadise
(1,832 posts)mean diddlysquat at the state level?
In 2021 in California 3 MILLION More Democrats voted versus Republicans, the map of California's districts reflects that.
In 2012 in Texas 1.3 MILLION more Republicans than Democrats voted, the map of Texas's districts reflects this.
I have never understood this belief that the maps are screwed up, it doesn't make sense.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)would be proud of this OP!
JEB
(4,748 posts)people talking about what they are doing. I believe Democrats can and should do better, fight harder. Could give a rat's ass about any of the Paul klan.
Rex
(65,616 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)(while illustrating with gusto that the problem is *exactly* what corpo-Dems are doing!)
jalan48
(13,870 posts)Excellent explanation by a college prof. on where we are today.
Here's a review of his book from the Boston Globe.
http://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/books/2014/10/18/review-national-security-and-double-government-michael-glennon/tUhBBdSj8s0WW1HoWUf20M/story.html
JEB
(4,748 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)ROFLMAO...followed by a few silent tears because it's so true.
No spine...no brass...no fire...no message.
Ya, that's a real winner Dems.
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)Obama Bots, read through all the provisions and see what Obama is for. How far the wrong way the Democratic party has come.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Firstly, Obama didn't actually get nearly as much done as he'd originally wanted to during the first 4 years in office.....not just environmentally speaking, but in *general*; and yet, even despite the NSA issues, etc., we didn't see masses of progressives staying home or defecting to the Greens or the Libertarians in 2012. And neither are the Democrats in danger of political extinction.....in fact, it's the Republicans, if anyone.....so no.
And what bothers me, too, is that we're not hearing much, certainly not from the MSM(and even a lot of alt-media seems to be silent, save BradBlog and a few others), about the possibility that both election screw-ups, and even outright fraud, as well as suppression of the poor, People of Color, etc.....may have played a significant, possibly even major, role in the losses that were more severe than anticipated this year.
saintsebastian
(41 posts)Sure. Voter suppression played some part in the Democrats terrible midterm performance, but it's not like progressives and progressive policies saw a bad night across the board. If progressives were, in a substantial way, locked out of the election through anti-voting laws, how do we account for the wins we saw on fracking, marijuana law reform and minimum wage?
Again, yes, voter suppression is a serious issue that has undoubtedly had a detrimental effect, but when progressive policies are polling and performing well, while Democrats are bombing, I think we can conclude that there are problems that can be rightfully chalked up to Democratic strategy.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)2001 it was the mighty 3rd parties, millions throwing the vote just like in 1980 (sure, the math doesn't add up in either case, and Newsweek admitted Gore would've won even with Jeb's Third-World-style skullduggery, were it not for the Brooks Brothers Riot)
2002-4 it was the mighty purist circular firing squad, seizing the party and deposing dozens of Senators voting yea on the IWR, cleverly disguising their pogrom as "election results"
2004-6 they endorsed things called "primaries," fascistic abuses of power skillfully disguised as democracy
2006-8 they started the Great Purge, where candidates that didn't fit a prescribed ideology were gerrymandered, got their money and support wiped out altogether, primaries sabotaged even when it meant losing the seat to a Pub, or even open endorsements of non-Dems: this is the only way Cegelis, Lamont, McKinney, Halter, Romanoff, Sestak, Grayson, Kucinich, Buono, Lutrin, Rev. Manuel Sykes, and Weiland got/retained their seats, which they selfishly hold when a good neocon or Pub could be sitting in it
2008-14 was worst of all: Michael Moore established a personality cult demanding 100% compliance, viciously smearing the good Dems who, out of nothing but the most rational rationality, swore absolute fealty to the President even if he doubled down on every Reagan and Bush policy, driving scores of witty DLC analysts off DU (while themselves contributing nothing but endless blue links to stories that didn't say what the headline did, or even Yahoo! maps connecting Moscow's airports after Moore threatened Evo Morales's plane)
but the kicker was that every forgettable lefty from Chomsky and Greenwald to Sheehan and Risen and Taibbi pooled their vigintillions of dollars to found DGOTV, Inc.: claiming that the Dems' accomplishments during this time (which Krugman has mathematically proven greater than the deeds of Lincoln, the Roosevelts, the best parts of JFK and LBJ, and post-Presidency Carter COMBINED AND THEN SQUARED), they said that the only way to save the country was to see it burn, cleverly using facts and low approval ratings to convince millions to not vote, even launching a campaign on DU itself of pointing out the party's self-sabotage, rightward tilt, crippling weaknesses, and fecklessness, as though those factors themselves could turn off voters
so what will '16 see? 70% of Americans have already been corrupted by the notion that politicians ought to follow through on promises, and there are even darker whispers that Putin has used his absolute power over the media and party cadres to make them believe that they should be voted out if they fail to do as promised; perhaps some swine will object to raising the voting age to 30, or to the cossacks the party sends around to whip people in the face until they promise to vote
whereisjustice
(2,941 posts)track and show those Moore/Snowden/Greenwald worshiping saboteurs who's in charge. Nothing says GOTV like a new fracking pipeline and million+ jobs to Asia.
And Lincoln? Ignore him. Just another purist.