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Do you believe Hilary Clinton is likely to scale back the military industrial complex? (Original Post) sibelian Nov 2014 OP
Bearing in mind that the question might be better phrased as "would likely" than as djean111 Nov 2014 #1
What makes you think she could? samrock Nov 2014 #2
I actually thnik that's a really pertinent response. sibelian Nov 2014 #8
Ha ha. That's a good one! Comrade Grumpy Nov 2014 #3
LMAO L0oniX Nov 2014 #4
I would guess that she will at least maintain. But I would not put it past her to expand. jwirr Nov 2014 #5
Not a chance. Rex Nov 2014 #6
... magical thyme Nov 2014 #7
Would anyone capable of getting elected do that? FSogol Nov 2014 #9
I'm beginning to regret my "leave it alone" jury vote 2banon Nov 2014 #10
It depends on what the world is like in 2017. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #11
Her tenure as SOS paints a different picture. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2014 #12
I think she is sane. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #13
Hilary carried out the policy of President Obama as SOS... Sancho Nov 2014 #18
Well, let 's see.... woo me with science Nov 2014 #14
kick wyldwolf Nov 2014 #15
I'll take "likely to maintain or even expand it," Alex. woo me with science Nov 2014 #16
It's not her call really....unless the House and Senate are also Democratic...even then very hard. Sancho Nov 2014 #17
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
1. Bearing in mind that the question might be better phrased as "would likely" than as
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 01:39 PM
Nov 2014

"is likely" - since she has not been elected, as far as I can tell. By looking outside of DU, of course.
Yes, I think Hillary would expand the military, and take the cost of that out of social programs.

sibelian

(7,804 posts)
8. I actually thnik that's a really pertinent response.
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 01:58 PM
Nov 2014

Several things occur to me: If she has no real power over it we can presumably assume that no American president ever does. If people want rid of it we're probably going to have to think of avenues other than electoral politics to change the landscape. I have no idea what that would look like.

If the MIC is able to continue to expand it reach and influence over the coming decades to the extend that NO power structure can rival it culturally or politically, where does that leave us? The MIC needs wars in order to exist. I heard somewhere (I can't tell you where) that they need to have wars at a certain frequency so as to keep the percentage of personnel who have seen active duty high enough to keep the system effective...
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
6. Not a chance.
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 01:48 PM
Nov 2014

The last POTUS that tried to do something about the MIC was JFK. Look how that turned out.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
10. I'm beginning to regret my "leave it alone" jury vote
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 02:13 PM
Nov 2014

when asked to serve on one of your op's that was alerted on, I had just logged on to du and was unaware of the numbers of absurd op's you spammed GD with, and therefore voted to "leave it alone".

Now that I see what you've been doing, I regret not voting to hide these. if you want to have an honest discussion as HRC"s positions on all of these issues, put it ONE op. please.

for now all of these are going into my trash pile, and i expect in one most everyone else's as well.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
12. Her tenure as SOS paints a different picture.
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 02:28 PM
Nov 2014

She led the charge on Libya and was chomping at the bit to attack Syria. Thankfully, there were saner heads around.

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
18. Hilary carried out the policy of President Obama as SOS...
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 09:46 AM
Nov 2014

We don't know what she would do a President. Same thing for Kerry, etc.

The SOS takes the heat for whatever the President desires, but the SOS can't order up a war independently.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
14. Well, let 's see....
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 02:31 PM
Nov 2014


Hillary Clinton Praises a Guy With Lots of Blood on His Hands
In lauding Henry Kissinger, the possible Democratic presidential nominee goes far beyond her usual hawkish rhetoric.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/09/hillary-clinton-henry-kissinger-world-order

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
17. It's not her call really....unless the House and Senate are also Democratic...even then very hard.
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 09:42 AM
Nov 2014

No President since WWII has been successful at scaling back the military. Carter and Clinton tried to avoid starting any new wars, but other than that it's been business as usual.

Sequestration has been the closest to a cut back that we've seen in decades, and it really hasn't slowed up the MIC.

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