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Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 01:59 PM Nov 2014

Did Clarence Thomas sexually harrass Anita Hill?


37 votes, 0 passes | Time left: Unlimited
Definitely yes
31 (84%)
Probably yes
2 (5%)
Definitely no
1 (3%)
Probably no
2 (5%)
Don't have an opinion
1 (3%)
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Did Clarence Thomas sexually harrass Anita Hill? (Original Post) Nye Bevan Nov 2014 OP
Why do we allow ths Justice to remain on the Supreme Court? Mike Nelson Nov 2014 #1
There was never any actionable evidence that it happened, GGJohn Nov 2014 #4
That is correct on both counts, no actionable evidence, and he is an asshole still_one Nov 2014 #9
Execpt that he did it to other women... joeybee12 Nov 2014 #37
Allegedly did it to other women. GGJohn Nov 2014 #38
Yes, Anita Hill's testimony to that effect was 100% credible Zambero Nov 2014 #2
Yes shenmue Nov 2014 #8
A resounding YES. He should be on Faux News, not on our highest court. eom BlueCaliDem Nov 2014 #30
HELL, yes. WinkyDink Nov 2014 #3
Anita Hill voluntarily took and passed a lie detector test on her claims. Paladin Nov 2014 #5
Sociopaths can pass lie detector tests JonLP24 Nov 2014 #15
That's exactly why they're not allowed as evidence in court. GGJohn Nov 2014 #19
When has Anita Hill ever displayed anything close to sociopathic tendencies? Paladin Nov 2014 #20
That wasn't my point JonLP24 Nov 2014 #21
Yes, it was Warpy Nov 2014 #29
That still doesn't explain why Confused-Clarence outright refused to take one, does it? BlueCaliDem Nov 2014 #32
To me JonLP24 Nov 2014 #34
Do you really think Anita Hill is a sociopath? whathehell Nov 2014 #26
No JonLP24 Nov 2014 #35
Yes n/t Spazito Nov 2014 #6
Yes. H2O Man Nov 2014 #7
One person actually voted no. I wonder what planet he is from? BillZBubb Nov 2014 #10
Clarence lurking perhaps? Zambero Nov 2014 #12
I can't say definitely as I wasn't there dsc Nov 2014 #11
Yes, Clarence "pubic hair on the Coke can" Thomas most certainly did. Louisiana1976 Nov 2014 #13
he would not be there were it not for Joe Biden, lets quit playing around here reddread Nov 2014 #23
It's not just degrading women for Confused-Clarence. It's his fetish of degrading BLACK BlueCaliDem Nov 2014 #33
what was on the line? Besides Roe v Wade, Voting Rights Act, reddread Nov 2014 #36
Yes ismnotwasm Nov 2014 #14
There was at least on other woman edhopper Nov 2014 #16
"the dems had no balls" -- I agree and whathehell Nov 2014 #28
true that. edhopper Nov 2014 #31
It was his word versus hers, so I can't say. NaturalHigh Nov 2014 #17
or so it appeared, as corroborating witnesses were sequestered, reddread Nov 2014 #25
My choice is not on the poll. William769 Nov 2014 #18
I believe he did bigwillq Nov 2014 #22
I dunno. Iggo Nov 2014 #24
David Brock "Blinded by the Right" mikeysnot Nov 2014 #27

Mike Nelson

(9,959 posts)
1. Why do we allow ths Justice to remain on the Supreme Court?
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 02:06 PM
Nov 2014

...if the tables were turned, Republicans in Congress would be proceeding with an impeachment.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
4. There was never any actionable evidence that it happened,
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 02:08 PM
Nov 2014

it was a he said, she said situation.
That said, Thomas is still a RW asshole.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
38. Allegedly did it to other women.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 09:38 PM
Nov 2014

I don't know if he did or didn't, but he's still a RW lazy asshole and I can't wait until he retires.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
2. Yes, Anita Hill's testimony to that effect was 100% credible
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 02:06 PM
Nov 2014

Next question: Is Clarence Thomas utterly incompetent and ill-suited for the position he currently holds?

Paladin

(28,264 posts)
5. Anita Hill voluntarily took and passed a lie detector test on her claims.
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 02:13 PM
Nov 2014

Clarence Thomas refused to take such a test and ended up going into full hysterics, playing his "High-Tech Lynching" card for the committee. He's as guilty as hell.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
15. Sociopaths can pass lie detector tests
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 04:56 PM
Nov 2014

Green river killer did the same but DNA proved his guilt.

I don't know what it is the truth when it comes to allegations against Clarence Thomas but lie detector test proves nothing to me.

Paladin

(28,264 posts)
20. When has Anita Hill ever displayed anything close to sociopathic tendencies?
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 06:59 PM
Nov 2014

Where do you get your "news," from Rush Limbaugh? He savaged Ms. Hill in every way possible, and not one ugly thing he said was remotely true. There were other witnesses willing to confirm Ms. Hill's testimony about Thomas's twisted behavior, but the committee hearings were so poorly handled that they never got an opportunity to speak. You have reservations about Thomas's guilt? That's fine and dandy---I don't.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
21. That wasn't my point
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 07:29 PM
Nov 2014

Whether Anita Hill is a sociopath is or not. Anyone can beat a lie detector test, sociopaths are better at it.

My point was someone willing or unwilling, passing or failing is irrelevant to someone who is guilty. I'm not sure what you mean by "news" or reservations. That took place way before I had a interest in politics so I have little knowledge as to the evidence presented during that time so I'm actually the last person you'd want to make a guilt or innocence judgment here.

As far as news, what do you mean? It is an easy to prove fact that the Green River Killer passed it. The guy who later became sheriff -- Dave Reichart was a lead investigator to the case and he says even in his own book that in the 80's he was put on the back burner as far as suspects were concerned at the time. Also notable double agents have passed them.

There is plenty of evidence out there that shows known liars passing lie detector test. Also people telling the truth were known to fail them. There was this guy who was suspected of killing his wife (turns out DNA proved it was the BTK Killer), he failed the police lie detector so he hired an independent to do one and he failed that one too.

My only point is it proves nothing.

Warpy

(111,270 posts)
29. Yes, it was
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 10:53 AM
Nov 2014

To declare a lie detector test has no value is to declare all people who take them sociopaths.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
32. That still doesn't explain why Confused-Clarence outright refused to take one, does it?
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 11:16 AM
Nov 2014

If anything, it makes him guilty in the eyes of most Americans - yeah, even Teabaggers.

Had Confused-Clarence taken one, it would have put the onus on doubters and erase all doubt for a large segment of the populace that he really didn't sexually harass Ms. Hill. The fact that he refused tells us that we know he did.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
34. To me
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 06:16 PM
Nov 2014

As a prosecutor he'd understand the unreliability of lie detector tests which could explain his refusal to take one. Whether he is guilty or not is a different story.

H2O Man

(73,559 posts)
7. Yes.
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 02:20 PM
Nov 2014

In my opinion, Ms. Hill's testimony was extremely powerful, clearly true, and proved that Clarence did not belong in any position of power -- certainly not on the Supreme Court. And he has provided ample evidence, over the years since, that he lacks both the intellectual and ethical capacity to be on the bench.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
12. Clarence lurking perhaps?
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 02:42 PM
Nov 2014

Or is it the missus who gives partisan speeches for hire while wearing that funny Statue of Liberty hat?

dsc

(52,162 posts)
11. I can't say definitely as I wasn't there
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 02:41 PM
Nov 2014

but I am as close to a definitely as someone who wasn't there can be.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
23. he would not be there were it not for Joe Biden, lets quit playing around here
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 09:09 AM
Nov 2014

"poorly handled"?
perfectly executed.
a fairly famous and accomplished woman my mother is close to has friends in WDC.
As I recall they owned a chain of porn shops.
straight up called Clarence their "number one customer"
which mostly corroborates his source material for stupid comments and his
appetite for degrading women.

all of this pales compared to the EOC implications of replacing Thurgood Marshall with
CT.
WHITE POWER!

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
33. It's not just degrading women for Confused-Clarence. It's his fetish of degrading BLACK
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 11:22 AM
Nov 2014

women.

Confused-Clarence had deep disdain for his own ethnicity because Ms. Hill wasn't the only one he sexually harassed. She was the only one with enough strength of character to call him on it. I deeply admire the woman for it. She was a helluva lot more courageous than Senatorial Democrats, that's for sure!

Democrats were spineless during his confirmation hearings. They should've gone after him full speed ahead. And I don't understand how any Democrat outside of the "red" States would vote for this unqualified, purely-pro-GOP joke to sit on our U.S. Supreme Court. It just baffles me to no end.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
36. what was on the line? Besides Roe v Wade, Voting Rights Act,
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 07:39 PM
Nov 2014

and why wouldnt you confirm a SCOTUS who claimed under oath to never have discussed or considered
Roe v Wade?
thats good enough for US?
this was a dark, dark moment made possible only by sequestering the corroborating witnesses.
Thanks Joe!

edhopper

(33,587 posts)
16. There was at least on other woman
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 05:06 PM
Nov 2014

who would have testified. (maybe more) The Dems had no balls and didn't want to make sex an offense (even though this was not about sex). Six years later the Repukes had no such qualms. (See Ken Starr).

Dems, always bringing a knife to a gun fight.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
28. "the dems had no balls" -- I agree and
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 10:45 AM
Nov 2014

sadly, I don't think much has changed in regard to most of them.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
25. or so it appeared, as corroborating witnesses were sequestered,
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 10:32 AM
Nov 2014

rather than called to testify as they were expecting.
only one Senator held the keys to that decision.

mikeysnot

(4,757 posts)
27. David Brock "Blinded by the Right"
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 10:43 AM
Nov 2014

Brock pretty much knew that he was guilty, he penned the the Real Anita Hill as a slander hit piece... The repigs played the race card and the coward dem's capitulated.

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