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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDo you think 'Third Way®' will find a suitably sold out Democratic candidate?
Or will they end up shifting their loyalties back to the Republican Party where their corporate ideology originated?
pangaia
(24,324 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)...as Ebola is to the human body
JEB
(4,748 posts)Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)(for those who missed it http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025825106 )
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)the fact that HRC is a woman and pro-choice far outweighs her corporatist proclivities in the minds of the Turd Way.
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)whereisjustice
(2,941 posts)It's a match so transparently evil, it can only have been conceived in hell.
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)that never comes.
baldguy
(36,649 posts)Remember when Obama was the anti-Hillary savior of the Democratic Party? Now he's at the center of the corporate conspiracy.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)working on new better candidates, they'd have one by now.
They've blown years whining about Obama.
And now, they'll blow a few years whining about Hillary.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)The phrase 'straw dogs' is drawn from the Tao Te Ching, and refers to ceremonial objects of ancient China, carefully prepared and used in ritual (with great reverence), and then thrown away like rubbish...
http://www.suprmchaos.com/bcEnt-Sun-091811.index.html
That's a negative sense, as people are fickle and put all their own failures upon leaders. Taken in a positive sense, it's okay:
In Ancient China, they used real dogs at one time to make ceremonial sacrifices. (This was a long time ago, people. A far more barbaric time than today ) One day, someone brilliantly decided to substitute straw dogs for real ones. (Yeah! Progress!) So, apparently, these straw dogs were ritualized and honored. If you have ever really looked closely at sacrificial rights, the item being sacrificed, if done properly, is extremely respected for giving its life for the sake of the people. (Does this sound familiar?) Staying on that vein, I think that is why Jesus accepted his fate so willingly. He knew he was really a straw dog. It was all cool to him. He knew that the form of his body was not what it was really all about. He knew that it was his spirit that meant something and he was willing to sacrifice his form to prove it.
If you read Chapter 5 of the Tao Te Ching, you will see that Lao Tzu was referencing the straw dogs to explain how our form is really just a superficial (and therefore meaningless) form of who we really are. After the ritual, the straw dogs are tossed in the dirt. Does this mean that we do not appreciate what those dogs represented? No. It means that we truly understand that what those dogs represented has nothing to do with form, so we toss the form.
http://taotechingdaily.com/chapter-5-tao-te-ching/
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)... then within a year of his taking office, I watched DU turn.
Some here did think he was the Messiah, going to cure all their ills in one stroke. And when that did happen, they lost their minds.
They wanted a magical primary challenger in 2012 ... now they're praying for an alternative to Hillary.
If they spent have as much time working on creating better candidates, than screaming about Obama and now Hillary, they might have an actual candidate to talk about.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)It was a fairly common theme and on that continues to thrive on the extreme right to claim that Democrats want a Messiah like candidate. Good company you have.
Rex
(65,616 posts)The concern trolling is to be expected from the extremists here.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)See, I knew Obama wasn't going to fix all our problems in 4 or even 8 years. It was going to take much longer. Surely every sane Democrat knew that.
Apparently not.
The last few years on DU helped me see where the right wing came up with the idea. They didn't invent it out of whole cloth.
Back in 2012, much of DU was screaming for a primary challenge to Obama. Did they have a candidate in mind? Nope. They were screaming for a mythical character.
Now two years later, they are again clamoring for a mythical candidate to appear. For some its Warren, for other, Bernie.
These folks ignore anything either Warren or Bernie says that includes compromise. And if either became President, they'd compromise at some point, and they cycle of screaming would continue.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)You guys have been complaining endlessly since the day Obama got elected.
Meanwhile, UE is down about 5%, DOW (and my 401k) are UP. Housing prices stabilized. War in Iraq is over. And I can count at least 5 relatives that are more likily to live longer thanks to Obamacare.
But hey, the new Messiah should be along any minute.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)up her integrity to George Bush.
As far as "complaining" goes, I will continue to be "not satisfied" until we end child poverty in this country. The health of Wall Street as you mention is a slap in the face of the 99%, but warms the hearts of the Conservatives.
We are waging a war, fighting, literally for lives, against the Conservative ideology. HRC is on the side of the Conservatives (Goldman-Sachs).
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Was wondering when that old strawman would be trotted out...
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)some ostentatiously predatory ones, too:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5824859
Rex
(65,616 posts)They are a great recruitment tool for progressives, since they attract only extremists to their pretend cause and disgust the other 99% of people that post here.
Rex
(65,616 posts)They help bring people into the progressive camp with their arrogance and condescending nature. Funny watching supposed Dems carry water for libertarians. Even funnier who recs their threads.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)for costing the Democratic party elections, because not enough of us voted.
I understand their arrogant, pompous, condescending nature. They have all the wealth and power of the corporate 1% behind them.
mylye2222
(2,992 posts)Since ten years ago...
zentrum
(9,865 posts)...is shockingly thin, but they'll find one. HRC or Cuomo......
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)I wish they would specify what sort of impurities they favor in candidates.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Are DINO candidates that cling to right wing shit
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)will settle for less. And I guess they are.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)... pure and untainted candidates are.
You must have a list.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)LWolf
(46,179 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)Thespian2
(2,741 posts)of the Clintons is a Third Way proponent already owned by Wall Street, the Koch Suckers, and the rest of the Greedy Bastards. Why look for anyone else? If she loses to a Republican, the Greedy Bastards will be happy. If she wins, the Greedy Bastards will be happy.
lexington filly
(239 posts)I'm chomping at the bit to cast my vote for a woman. But it has to be one who has sincere Progressive values and goals for the most part.