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Why Are Republicans Talking Like Elizabeth Warren?
Posted: 11/14/2014 7:32 am EST
"The turmoil over the Trans-Pacific Partnership, or TPP -- a proposed trade pact that would represent the most significant deal of its kind since 1994's North American Free Trade Agreement -- marks a new chapter in the power struggle between the Republican Party's corporate wing and its burgeoning populist base. McConnell, House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce are all strong supporters of TPP and whatever procedural tools it needs to pass. But some conservative activists are tapping into tea party skepticism of executive power and "crony capitalist" favors delivered by Washington to preferred businesses. And their trade policy arguments sound a lot like what liberal Democrats have been saying for decades.
"From what I hear, Wall Street, pharmaceuticals, telecom, big polluters and outsourcers are all salivating at the chance to rig the deal in the upcoming trade talks. So the question is, Why are the trade talks secret?" Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) said in a speech earlier this year. I actually have had supporters of the deal say to me, 'They have to be secret, because if the American people knew what was actually in them, they would be opposed.'"
...There has been some criticism of TPP from the Republican side. Thirteen GOP lawmakers signed a letter to Obama this summer that highlighted human rights abuses in Vietnam, one of the nations involved in the talks, and Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-Fla.) signed another such letter on Brunei. Still, free-trade ideology is deeply ingrained in the GOP, and NAFTA-style agreements typically carry huge Republican majorities. Only 19 Republicans voted against the 2011 Korea Free Trade Agreement, and even fewer on similar pacts with Colombia and Panama.
Conservative activists are trying to change that. Last year, 28 Republicans signed letters opposing the use of fast-track. There's an Obamatrade website that draws explicit parallels between the Affordable Care Act and the proposal to fast-track the Trans-Pacific Partnership."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/14/republicans-tpp_n_6154610.html
Posted: 11/14/2014 7:32 am EST
"The turmoil over the Trans-Pacific Partnership, or TPP -- a proposed trade pact that would represent the most significant deal of its kind since 1994's North American Free Trade Agreement -- marks a new chapter in the power struggle between the Republican Party's corporate wing and its burgeoning populist base. McConnell, House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce are all strong supporters of TPP and whatever procedural tools it needs to pass. But some conservative activists are tapping into tea party skepticism of executive power and "crony capitalist" favors delivered by Washington to preferred businesses. And their trade policy arguments sound a lot like what liberal Democrats have been saying for decades.
"From what I hear, Wall Street, pharmaceuticals, telecom, big polluters and outsourcers are all salivating at the chance to rig the deal in the upcoming trade talks. So the question is, Why are the trade talks secret?" Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) said in a speech earlier this year. I actually have had supporters of the deal say to me, 'They have to be secret, because if the American people knew what was actually in them, they would be opposed.'"
...There has been some criticism of TPP from the Republican side. Thirteen GOP lawmakers signed a letter to Obama this summer that highlighted human rights abuses in Vietnam, one of the nations involved in the talks, and Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-Fla.) signed another such letter on Brunei. Still, free-trade ideology is deeply ingrained in the GOP, and NAFTA-style agreements typically carry huge Republican majorities. Only 19 Republicans voted against the 2011 Korea Free Trade Agreement, and even fewer on similar pacts with Colombia and Panama.
Conservative activists are trying to change that. Last year, 28 Republicans signed letters opposing the use of fast-track. There's an Obamatrade website that draws explicit parallels between the Affordable Care Act and the proposal to fast-track the Trans-Pacific Partnership."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/14/republicans-tpp_n_6154610.html
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Why Are Republicans Talking Like Elizabeth Warren? (Original Post)
RiverLover
Nov 2014
OP
It's mostly far right repubs. They call TPP "Obamatrade". Here from World Nut Daily.
pampango
Nov 2014
#4
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)1. Because Republican Corporatists are not the ones negotiating the deal.
Warpy
(111,270 posts)2. They know they'll lose if they sound like Republicans.
They will let the Democrats with those Third Way/DLC campaign handlers do that.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)3. This is a problem when Dems adopt Republican positions like TPP
They create instances where the repukes can come off as the sane/populist ones.
pampango
(24,692 posts)4. It's mostly far right repubs. They call TPP "Obamatrade". Here from World Nut Daily.
The New World Disorder
Will GOP stab its voters in the back?
Sen. Mitch McConnell, eager to show the world a GOP-run Congress can govern, wants to give President Obama extra-constitutional fast track power. Obama would use this power to bypass Congress and enact the globalists newest so-called free trade deal, the TransPacific Partnership. Its better known as Obamatrade because Congress would have to pass it to find out whats in it. But Obamatrade is deeply unpopular with the American people, and even more unpopular with conservatives and the other voters Republican rely on to win elections.
We know this from a series of polls. Its more useful and reliable to look at series of poll than a single survey, likely commissioned by someone with an ax to grind. Luckily, the non-partisan Pew Research Center has been polling the publics attitude about globalization and so-called free trade for years. It found only 1 in 5 Americans believe Obamatrade will create jobs, and even fewer 17 percent believe it will raise wages. However, 78 percent of Vietnamese believe Obamatrade will create jobs. If your congressman says Obamatrade will create jobs, ask him whos he representing you, or HanoiJane?
While 35 percent of Democrats said trade deals like NAFTA and the WTO have been bad for the country, 54 percent of Republicans and a whopping 63 percent of folks who identify with the tea party said theyre bad. And while 47 percent of Democrats believe the trade deals lead to job losses, 58 percent of Republicans and fully 67 percent of tea party conservatives see them as job-killers.
The American Enterprise Institute, hardly a liberal front group, cites the definitive Pew research, Beyond Red and Blue. It found white working class voters oppose free trade agreements by a 2-to-1 margin and they oppose increased immigration. These voters see so-called free trade and amnesty as two sides of the same coin: They are pressed by competition from foreigners at home (immigration) and abroad (free trade), and they dont like it, Olsen writes. So, while the effete intellectuals at Beltway think tanks try to peddle the myth that only the labor unions in the Democratic Party oppose so-called free trade, the truth is patriotic conservatives understand it is just more of the open-borders globalism that is destroying the country we love.
http://www.wnd.com/2014/11/will-gop-stab-its-voters-in-the-back/
The far-right has opposed the UN, WTO, trade agreements, climate change treaties and most other international agreements and organizations since the days of the John Birch Society.
Will GOP stab its voters in the back?
Sen. Mitch McConnell, eager to show the world a GOP-run Congress can govern, wants to give President Obama extra-constitutional fast track power. Obama would use this power to bypass Congress and enact the globalists newest so-called free trade deal, the TransPacific Partnership. Its better known as Obamatrade because Congress would have to pass it to find out whats in it. But Obamatrade is deeply unpopular with the American people, and even more unpopular with conservatives and the other voters Republican rely on to win elections.
We know this from a series of polls. Its more useful and reliable to look at series of poll than a single survey, likely commissioned by someone with an ax to grind. Luckily, the non-partisan Pew Research Center has been polling the publics attitude about globalization and so-called free trade for years. It found only 1 in 5 Americans believe Obamatrade will create jobs, and even fewer 17 percent believe it will raise wages. However, 78 percent of Vietnamese believe Obamatrade will create jobs. If your congressman says Obamatrade will create jobs, ask him whos he representing you, or HanoiJane?
While 35 percent of Democrats said trade deals like NAFTA and the WTO have been bad for the country, 54 percent of Republicans and a whopping 63 percent of folks who identify with the tea party said theyre bad. And while 47 percent of Democrats believe the trade deals lead to job losses, 58 percent of Republicans and fully 67 percent of tea party conservatives see them as job-killers.
The American Enterprise Institute, hardly a liberal front group, cites the definitive Pew research, Beyond Red and Blue. It found white working class voters oppose free trade agreements by a 2-to-1 margin and they oppose increased immigration. These voters see so-called free trade and amnesty as two sides of the same coin: They are pressed by competition from foreigners at home (immigration) and abroad (free trade), and they dont like it, Olsen writes. So, while the effete intellectuals at Beltway think tanks try to peddle the myth that only the labor unions in the Democratic Party oppose so-called free trade, the truth is patriotic conservatives understand it is just more of the open-borders globalism that is destroying the country we love.
http://www.wnd.com/2014/11/will-gop-stab-its-voters-in-the-back/
The far-right has opposed the UN, WTO, trade agreements, climate change treaties and most other international agreements and organizations since the days of the John Birch Society.