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I keep seeing signs like this all around public transport in Seattle and Portland, on buses, trains, and at stations. But I recently discovered that there's a huge billboard near where I live that says "See something? Say something."
I can (maybe, and it's pushing it) see a case for having them on a train or a bus, as stuff does ocasionally happen. People do crazy things. But on a billboard? For no discernable reason? That's scary. We are being watched, it says, and we should also be watching others.
It really makes me nervous. We have regressed so far that 1984-ish messages scattered around cities draw no attention. It's not that they aren't conspicuous; we just don't even notice them anymore. We have become so accustomed to being watched and watching others that these messages are simply accepted as the way things are. The police state continues its slow march to total control, and we often don't even notice.
On edit: oh boy, now they're playing audio messages too!
Lady Freedom Returns
(14,120 posts)It shows a lone backpack and ask people to alert the driver or call 911. But I have not seen any billboards...yet.
2naSalit
(86,646 posts)who lived in the communist eastern bloc have commented, since 2000, that this is what we face. Lately the say that the US is the same as it was in those countries prior to the break up of the Soviet Union. Scary indeed.
I think it's not just the realization of 1984 but also Animal Farm. I can see the current state of affairs in the US embracing both story lines.
FSogol
(45,488 posts)When some teenagers are climbing the fence into a neighbor's yard, should I turn on my outdoor lights or mind my own business? Nothing wrong with the "see something, say something" campaign. It is a completely different issue from the militarization of the police or NSA issues.
Yes, we are being watched too much by big brother, but too many regular citizens ignore crimes being committed, and refuse to speak up.
Journeyman
(15,036 posts)~ George W. Bush
(still among the dumbest people to have ever trod this planet)
elias49
(4,259 posts)Know what I mean everybody?
awake
(3,226 posts)I was in time square a few years ago when a shopkeeper alerted the police to a SUV that was parked strange with a suspicious driver it turned out to be a bomber idea of "See something? Say something" saved a lot of lives that night. If more people took interest in their community we would not have so many republicans elected to offices but too many people think that someone else will take care of things.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)Is it about big brother, or is it about community?
Is "saying something" about reporting to some official body, or about stepping in?
For example, if you see sexual harassment, should you ignore it, or say something?
Bullying? Racism? Domestic abuse? Should we look away, thus offering passive support, or should we say something?
I think more information about the source, and the agenda, is needed.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)I saw one of those signs on a bulletin board at a Senior Center, and guess
who the ones were who took full advantage of it? The "busy-bodies" and
nosey gossipers, that's who. constantly stirring up shit by prying into others
business. BYW - I live in Pdx too.
Plus, since the police nowadays generally show up with fists flying and guns
blazing, it's a very deadly combination.
PSPS
(13,601 posts)You see, there's a presidential election in a couple of years, and it's never too early to crank up the fear. They reliably did that during the Bush junta whenever his approval ratings were dropping (as admitted by Tom Ridge.) So expect a lot more of this both to foster support for further GOP mischief in their new position of power in the country and to promote the GOP candidate in the never-ending presidential campaign. Plus, they have an $60 billion budget to justify and protect!
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)-snip-
Shortly after September 11, 2001, the advertising firm Korey Kay & Partners pitched the Departments of State, Justice, and the newly created Homeland Security on an ad campaign to make travelers more aware of potential terrorists threats, but none expressed interest in using the work, Adweek reported in January 2002. It will therefore remain a creative exercise.
The feds would eventually change their minds about Kays creative exercise. Today, the slogan If you see something, say something graces mass transit hubs across the country as well as DHS-funded coffee cup sleeves. The slogan has outlived color-coded terror alerts, the Iraq War, the Yellowcake myth, Sadam Hussein, Osama bin Laden, and cigarette lighter bans. In honor of If you see something, say something, Reason presents you with a brief timeline of its conception and current use:
January 2002: Korey Kay & Partners unveils If you see something, say something
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