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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSTUNNING VIDEO: TransCanada CEO Concedes Keystone Pipline to create only 50 Jobs
Seeming overlooked during yesterday's (11/16/14) interview on ABC's "ThisWeek", Russ Girling, current CEO of "TransCanada"... the company behind the Keystone XL Pipeline... conceded a claim by the Reuters last year that, once constructed, the Keystone XL would produce as few as "FIFTY permanent jobs." But, he went on to argue, that the number did not take into account the nearly "9,000 temporary construction jobs" or the estimated "42,000 'indirect' jobs (from new businesses along the construction route)."Seriously? These are the jobs, jobs, jobs Republicans have been promising?
The very thought that this country may risk certain environmental disaster to create fewer jobs over TWO years than it needs every TWO weeks just to keep up with population growth, is unfathomable. Tell me were not being ruled by people THAT dumb!
Remember when supporters of the pipeline were claiming as many as "one MILLION new jobs?" (pinky to corner of mouth.)
Worse, construction of the pipeline will produce an economic dead zone along it's 1.200 mile route... half of which has ALREADY BEEN BUILT. Steel pipe for the pipeline has ALREADY BEEN PURCHASED FROM INDIA, so there are no jobs to be gained there either.
MORE Plus supporting links:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/11/17/1345441/-CEO-of-TransCanada-Concedes-just-50-permanent-jobs-from-Keystone-XL-Pipeline#
jillan
(39,451 posts)we get all the pain?!
djean111
(14,255 posts)over a certain dollar amount.
http://www.exposethetpp.org/TPPImpacts_BuyLocal.html
The TPP's procurement chapter would require that all firms operating in any signatory country be provided equal access as domestic firms to U.S. government procurement contracts over a certain dollar threshold. The United States would agree to waive "Buy American" and "Buy Local" procurement policies for all such foreign firms, eliminating an important policy tool to use U.S. tax dollars for U.S. job creation.
Also, I believe, that "Made in America" label would be a no-no - no labeling as to country of origin. especially for food.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)the hell is going on with the Obama administration that they would even think of taking it away from us.
djean111
(14,255 posts)Congress to examine it, Congress cannot change a word or attach a condition, there would be just a straight up and down vote.
I am sure we will be treated to many treacly and condescending lectures on what a GOOD thing this is, since Hillary bears some responsibility for it. The TPP touches a lot of things, it has lots of tentacles.
No supporter will get my vote.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Following the denial of a US regulatory permit for its Keystone XL pipeline, TransCanada went ahead with the southern leg of the Keystone project. This will deliver 830,000 bbl/d (132,000 m3/d) from Cushing to the Coast. Since it is entirely within the states of Oklahoma and Texas, it does not require US federal government approval.
On November 30, 2011, a group of leading Republican senators introduced legislation aimed at forcing the Obama administration to make a decision on the Keystone XL pipeline within 60 days.[43] In December 2011, Congress passed a bill giving the Obama Administration a 60-day deadline to make a decision on the application to build the Keystone XL Pipeline.[39][44] On January 18, 2012, President Obama rejected the application stating that the deadline for the decision had "prevented a full assessment of the pipeline's impact".[39][45] On September 5, 2012, TransCanada submitted an environmental report on the new route in Nebraska, which the company says "based on extensive feedback from Nebraskans, and reflects our shared desire to minimize the disturbance of land and sensitive resources in the state
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystone_Pipeline
note only a tiny bit of XL remains to be 'approved' and that is just an existing OLD border crossing pipe that will be replaced
daleanime
(17,796 posts)but too many of us are.
we can do it
(12,193 posts)bullwinkle428
(20,630 posts)by the side of the road a long time ago. The current meme is "WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL ABOUT ONE MORE PIPELINE?!?!?!?"
Hell, I've seen it thrown around here.
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)Source: NRDC
Besides, a study from the Industrial Labor Relations school at Cornell University suggests that the pipeline would actually kill more jobs than it creates!
It's mind-boggling how money and propaganda can generate rational justifications for insanity.
"Oh,sure, there are some downsides, but at least for a few months I had a good job!"
Blue Idaho
(5,057 posts)What a damn surprise! Anything to to please their corporate masters and prop up the TeaPublican talking points.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Ink Man
(171 posts)We estimate 821,000 tons of high strength line pipe will be used on the project in Canada and the U.S. TransCanada has estimated it will use 660,000 tons of steel for the U.S. portion of the Keystone XL pipeline. The following are the line pipe mills who are manufacturing the pipe:
Welspun - Little Rock, Arkansas, USA.............................................. 332,800 tons 50%
Evraz Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada............................................ 156,266 tons 24%
ILVA Italy................................................................................. 103,147 tons 16%
Welspun - India............................................................................ 69,457 tons 10%
djean111
(14,255 posts)Not to say that they do not give people in Arkansas jobs.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)So many states are broke now, their oil is long drilled away. But they have mines full of iron ore rusting away & thousands of Americans with no jobs.
Why can't those states reopen the steel manufacturing industry?
Faux pas
(14,690 posts)badtoworse
(5,957 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Pass infrastructure bills.
madamvlb
(495 posts)MerryBlooms
(11,771 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Brickbat
(19,339 posts)Otherwise they're "temporary."
Historic NY
(37,453 posts)most pipe is already in.... The gulf coast jobs will be at the refinery loading Tran Canada oil on ships bound for China.
http://www.state.gov/e/eb/esc/iec/permit/keystonexl/182277.htm#4
4. The economic study prepared under contract to the Applicant estimated 118,000 person-years of employment could be generated over a projected 100-year operational life of the pipeline. This number appears to have been misreported by others as 118,000 jobs created; in fact in addition to the long time-frame projected in the study, it appears the study treated crude oil that would be transported by the pipeline as an increase in crude oil imported into the United States.
Appears the commissioned study was sugar coating.
Rex
(65,616 posts)That's why they love vendors and contract workers. Reminds me of hearing about CNN/Fox lying that thousands of people show up to various RWing rallies, then we find out it was 10.
Billions of dollars are on the line for bankers and Wall Street, so it will be built.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Paper Roses
(7,475 posts)tclambert
(11,087 posts)Career bird-washers.
Sanity Claws
(21,852 posts)My guess is that Keystone will result in a net LOSS of jobs because fewer truckers and railroad workers are required.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)If ever they can 'clean' that toxic sludge.
Parts of Kern county in Ca. are still covered with asphalt? chunks of oil from their huge disaster in the 40s?. The yellow river they covered that 'spill' with sand a couple years ago. The gulf, all the dolphins left had stillborn calves and the fishing industry has not recovered.
We should NOT trust the oil industry to ever do the right thing.