Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
18 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
I know there are a lot of undocumented Irish in this country (Original Post) rurallib Nov 2014 OP
Our president is part Irish! NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #1
I think he actually is. nt arely staircase Nov 2014 #2
For you.... msanthrope Nov 2014 #9
:-) nt arely staircase Nov 2014 #12
I am quite certain that many of my ancestors were undocumented Kalidurga Nov 2014 #3
Actually, there are in the Northeast Retrograde Nov 2014 #4
Actually, back in the seventies, I knew many undocumented Irish Catholics from Cleita Nov 2014 #5
THEY NEED NOT APPLY! onehandle Nov 2014 #6
Well, anecdotally speaking... CrawlingChaos Nov 2014 #7
sounds like once they got off the island they lost whatever rurallib Nov 2014 #8
You can actually become Irish through osmosis Scootaloo Nov 2014 #11
Though, strangely enough, dflprincess Nov 2014 #10
All ancestors on my mother's and father's side were from Ireland. RebelOne Nov 2014 #13
Mom was born there... dorkzilla Nov 2014 #14
Come to Chicago>yes there are a lot lunasun Nov 2014 #15
I'm sure there is at least one illegal Norwegian. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #16
All four of my grandparents entered this country illegally... Bigmack Nov 2014 #17
There were a lot of illegal Irish in Santa Monica ... kwassa Nov 2014 #18

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
3. I am quite certain that many of my ancestors were undocumented
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 10:12 PM
Nov 2014

I think most of them from Europe, but some may have been NA and other races. My family tends to not ask for documents so we could be just about anything.

Retrograde

(10,158 posts)
4. Actually, there are in the Northeast
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 10:14 PM
Nov 2014

Undocumented aliens come in all shapes, sizes and colors - European, Asian, Central American, African. For some reason the media and GOP focus on one particular group.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
5. Actually, back in the seventies, I knew many undocumented Irish Catholics from
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 10:15 PM
Nov 2014

Northern Ireland. They actually were trying to escape the "troubles" and it seems in hindsight that they should have been able to claim refugee status. but nobody was trying to deport them. They were white and spoke English. Over the years many quietly solved their immigration status or went back home when things stabilized.

I recently got a phone call from a young woman of that status who is now a grandmother, not young anymore, and legal. She was a nurse and went to work with a plastic surgeon in Beverly Hills, while still undocumented but able to obtain phony SS papers,
because she had experience with facial surgery from all the young people who were being shot in the face with rubber bullets back then in Belfast.

We have kept in touch over the years, so your tongue in cheek post kind of reminded me of this.

CrawlingChaos

(1,893 posts)
7. Well, anecdotally speaking...
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 10:27 PM
Nov 2014

Every single person I know who has done the DNA ancestry testing has come back mostly Irish. They all thought they were something else, but nope, Irish. At this point it's becoming rather amusing to me.

dflprincess

(28,082 posts)
10. Though, strangely enough,
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 10:35 PM
Nov 2014

when a few of my cousins and I had the ancestry test done we came back less Irish than we expected. (Though I was a bit more because I have Irish ancestors on both sides of the family.) Our late grandmother's head would have exploded if she had seen our results.

We agreed it has more to do with how we were raised.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
13. All ancestors on my mother's and father's side were from Ireland.
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 10:48 PM
Nov 2014

They immigrated to the U.S. in the 1800's. My grandfather on my father's side was from England.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
14. Mom was born there...
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 11:07 PM
Nov 2014

so we"ve got lots of family and friends who came over in the 70s and 80s from the Republic as opposed to Northern Ireland, economic refugees really. A lot of them I personally knew went back when the Celtic Tiger was having its day, and quite a few came back when the bottom fell out. Woodlawn is full of them again.

And I have a LOT of illegal Polish friends here too.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
15. Come to Chicago>yes there are a lot
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 11:14 PM
Nov 2014

approx50,000 undocumented Irish emigrants in the USA
Amnesty Chicago Celts for Immigration Reform
The bill has the support of Republicans and Democrats but the process has stalled in the House of Representatives, where Republican Leader John Boehner refuses to call a vote over concerns from his more right-wing members, who fear amnesty for millions of immigrants from Latin America.

The Irish have been key players in pushing for immigration reform and have taken the lead with other immigrant groups nationwide. In the face of federal inaction they have focused on changing state laws that affect immigrants.

The Chicago Celts recently took the lead in passing a law that provides undocumented immigrants in Illinois with a driver’s license, a move followed by eight other states like California and Massachusetts.


Polish undocs are another big group here

True Blue Door

(2,969 posts)
16. I'm sure there is at least one illegal Norwegian.
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 11:31 PM
Nov 2014

The Blonde Menace coming to our shores to take all our snow-related jobs.

 

Bigmack

(8,020 posts)
17. All four of my grandparents entered this country illegally...
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 11:41 PM
Nov 2014

... two from Ireland, and 2 from France.

My father has two birth certificates... one from Canada and one from the US. He always knew the US one was phony.

The French grandparents sneaked in from Canada, too. I searched the 1910 census, and they showed up... 6 girls and 1 boy in the family... with different last and first names.

I come from a whole line of people who didn't like the Man knowing much about them.

I guess they would be "Wetbacks", since they crossed the Detroit River.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
18. There were a lot of illegal Irish in Santa Monica ...
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 11:59 PM
Nov 2014

back in the late 80s. The entire Commonwealth liked Southern California. There were and are numerous English and Irish pubs in this town at the beach. The King's Head, the Mucky Duck, McGintys, etc.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»I know there are a lot of...