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davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 03:34 AM Nov 2014

Washington Times: Immigrants will get a 12% pay raise; Americans will see a pay cut

Illegal immigrants stand to make out nicely, seeing a big jump in their wages under President Obama’s policy, announced Thursday, granting millions of them temporary amnesty and the chance to work legally, but analysts say American workers in some jobs are likely to feel a pinch from new competitors.

While most of the illegal immigrants to whom Mr. Obama granted tentative legal status were already under little fear of deportation, they were usually working in the shadows, either off-the-books or using a bogus Social Security number that trapped them in low-skilled jobs and left them vulnerable to abuse by unscrupulous employers.

But Mr. Obama said millions of them will now be granted legal work permits along with their official stays of deportation, giving them a chance to seek better-paying jobs, demand a minimum wage and report workplace safety violations without fear of retribution.

Those new protections could produce an average wage jump of 12 percent, according to a Congressional Budget Office estimate attached to last year’s Senate immigration bill.

Native-born workers, however, will see a more mixed picture — and those in some low-skilled jobs, particularly ones that require a background check, such as drivers, school janitors or hired security guards, are likely to face new competition, said Steven A. Camarota, research director at the Center for Immigration Studies.


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/20/obama-amnesty-to-increase-illegal-immigrants-wages/


Looks like conservatives are already pushing the jobs angle. They will say that immigrants are going to steal your jobs.
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Washington Times: Immigrants will get a 12% pay raise; Americans will see a pay cut (Original Post) davidn3600 Nov 2014 OP
I had friends who spoke of similar concerns in the wake of Katrina. . . Journeyman Nov 2014 #1
This is just The Times not-so-subtle way of trying to turn public opinion Samantha Nov 2014 #2
12% on what ever they are making at minimum wage... Historic NY Nov 2014 #3
I was commenting to this with my daugtther exboyfil Nov 2014 #4
OMG! They can DEMAND a minimum wage Gman Nov 2014 #5
IMO Mr Dixon Nov 2014 #6

Journeyman

(15,039 posts)
1. I had friends who spoke of similar concerns in the wake of Katrina. . .
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 03:52 AM
Nov 2014

They worried the displaced people of New Orleans would flood into Los Angeles and, willing to work for lesser wages, might take their jobs. Don't know if it happened. It didn't to those I know. But it was a definite fear.

Overall, I believe these developments will prove positive for all. But the transitional period will have its challenges. Of that I believe we can all be certain.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
2. This is just The Times not-so-subtle way of trying to turn public opinion
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 04:00 AM
Nov 2014

against the President's Executive Order. Always a slanted read ....

Sam

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
4. I was commenting to this with my daugtther
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 07:25 AM
Nov 2014

yesterday. She just received her CNA certification this summer. I mentioned that I thought the President Obama's action would open the field to more workers who now can get registered with the state. I can't think how this would not put downward pressure on CNA wages.

It is not immigrant bashing to point out this out. How much of an impact I am not certain. Whether the overall societal benefit outweighs the immigration change in status I am also uncertain of. I have the same concerns about H-1 B and other professional Visas. My older daughter is working towards becoming a mechanical engineer, and I have already seen examples in my own career as a mechanical engineer where an H1-B Visa holder obtained a position which I was trying for.

Mr Dixon

(1,185 posts)
6. IMO
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 10:56 AM
Nov 2014

This is such BS, people complaining that slave wages are a thing of the past? Everybody deserves a living wage only those greedy are up in arms.

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