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They want you to think of Boeing when you book your next flight. So the airline will think of Boeing the next time they buy planes.

Or is this just a rant about advertising?

advertise on these news shows to influence the message. There is no reason for ads from Boeing, Koch Industries, Monsanto, BP, etc. because none of us are going to run out and buy their product. It's soley meant to intimidate the media outlet they advertise on.

Sure, down the line we might buy an airline ticket, a roll of toilet paper or an ear of corn, or some gas, but those things are already advertised for public consumption.

What is the list of acceptable advertisers you'll watch?

is sitting in front of the TV relaxing to buy their product, a possibility for the average TV viewer. Now the CEO of United may be watching tv but he isn't there thinking, "Gee, maybe I should look into getting one of those." That decision was already made at the job.

You're not interested in their ad, so they should pull it. Just like I don't like crappy beer, so Bud and Miller shouldn't be advertising either. Glad we cleared that up.

Or, are you being paid to disrupt? Sad what's been happening to DU lately.


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...look at how many people here didn't agree with the OP

When companies like Boeing, BNSF, Monsanto, etc buy ad time they aren't selling a product. They are buying influence of the programming.

But you knew that.

So they have to take companies who can purchase air time. They most likely do not have many companies knocking on the door ready to advertise so they basically take those companies willing to purchase. Or they go off the air. The higher rated channels can pick and choose. MSNBC cannot.

when Chris Hayes says something Boeing doesn't like, and Boeing decides to pull its PR money?

Maybe Chris modifies his messages and stays on the job.

Maybe he doesn't & goes looking for another job.

Case in point--Jim Lehrer. How much negative coverage has he given ADM over the years?

But look at the overall positives of the show. If not bashing Boeing keeps the show on the air, isn't that worth it overall

He only wants a quarter-interest in your soul.

From a business side. Many companies have to deal with the devil just to survive. MSNBC needs to figure out how to increase eyeballs and then can pick and chose who to support. Unfortunately, I see MSNBC going under before that occurs. Their ratings are horrible.

that hoping for broadcast news to get in touch with reality anytime soon is unrealistic. I think the few "liberal" outlets like Madden, Stewart, Colbert & John Oliver serve mostly as cover to give the appearance of a "liberal media." Don't get me wrong; I think they're all great, but they are a token-sized drop in the bucket.

...as did other people, to which OP insisted it couldn't possibly be the case.

I might not buy a boeing, but if the public considers boeing to be a superior aircraft it can affect airline purchases.

by the airline, but have not choice as to what aircraft I will be on once that choice is made. My choice of airline A over airline B is about price, service, maybe even safety record but never if it's a Boeing or a Douglas.

As an aircraft maker.

They were bought by Boeing.

names of the other companies.

Is Airbus. There are a couple other builders of smaller commuter jets and turboprops (Embraer, for instance) but every new, large passenger plane you are likely to see these days is either a Boeing or an Airbus

the model of airplane. I avoid Airbis like the plague, and much prefer Boeing metal.

You can determine what model plane is scheduled to make the flight before you book, and a few people do consider that.

That being said, I think I am in the minority, and most people pay no attention to that, and agree with your main point about them trying to influence the tone of what is broadcast.

I always check the metal. I avoid 757's at all costs. The most uncomfortable planes ever! Redeyes back from Hawaii. Ugh!

Had my first ride on a wide body this year. Boeing's 777. What a pleasure.

The Boeing isnt. If you can't see the difference...

trade venues. Nobody other than the MIC or the airlines are going to buy an airplane the size they were showing. This was not even a private, corporate jet size. I'm not coming from left field here. There has been some off the record scuttlebutt that the advertisers can and do influence the content of shows.

they pay no federal taxes, state taxes have been cut for them, they blackmail the state of Washington, they blackmail the unions. - there is a lot of bad press about them - for good reason.
They are also practically an extension of the Dept of Defense so they want to be thought of fondly when the gov. awards more and more defense contracts.

via the ads & (I suspect, along with you,) via news management. A double-win for them.

For warplanes

This keeps getting perpetuated over and over on DU, where it's de riguer to keep the meme going instead of keeping up with current events.

Comcast bought out all of the GE shares almost 2 years ago. NBCUniversal is wholly owned by Comcast.

This doesn't make it any less unsavory but it is what it is and it ain't GE.

The male erectile dysfunction ads at dinner time are not to my liking. Dear ad placement folk, I click you off!

Nobody expects you to buy Boeing airplanes. A couple shares of Boeing stock, or a mutual fund with Boeing stock, is what you can afford.

It's not any more difficult than that.

You might as well ask why the armed forces run commercials...

Boeing stock. It wants you to add Boeing stock to your portfolio. They're advertising to the demographic that watches Chris Hayes, meaning people who invest in the stock market.

ad on a current events opinion show. When my husband bought stock, he spent months reading the WSJ, Barron's, tracking its history, the people running it and projections where it was going. Then he waited until the market was down before buying, which he got from the ticker tape run on CNBC or whatever it was called back then. Also shouldn't the financial channels be a better venue for running ads if that's their purpose? I myself buy mutual funds and I certainly hope the fund managers aren't buying stock that way.

DuPont, Burlington Industries, Dow Chemical and many other corporations that did not market consumer products.

Railroads and container ship companies advertise on TV even though none of us will ever ship thousands of tons of cargo.

I also worked for a major pharmaceutical company more than 30 years ago, before consumer advertising was permitted.

We ran corporate image TV ads.

As for leverage on content, you can make the same claim for any advertiser. If Stewart makes a joke about Fruit Loops will Kellogg's pull their ads?

A warplane ad on Melissa Harris-Perry. Yuck.

When Koch Industries started advertising on The Daily Show, Jon Stewart did a segment on them pointing out all the pollution and other damages their industries did and then sarcastically welcomed them as an advertiser. I haven't seen one of their ads on that show since then. If only the MSNBC hosts had the same courage.

thousands of jobs to other states. They are really on the shit list in the Northwest and are trying to turn around peoples perceptions of them. It's not working though. Washington is pissed.

They're just trying to look a good american company in the abstract as they become the "virtual manufacturer" they've set out to be.

As others have stated, if some of the more well-heeled and anti-labor TV viewers buy Boeing stock, then so much the better from their point of view.

They have teams of lawyers, accountants and stock analysts who vet publicly owned corporations before investing.