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SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 09:32 AM Nov 2014

Why We All Ignored the Bill Cosby Rape Charges for 10 Years

http://www.cracked.com/blog/why-we-all-ignored-bill-cosby-rape-charges-10-years/

By now you've probably heard that Bill Cosby has been accused of drugging and raping more than a dozen women over the course of his 50-year career as a stand-up comedian, sitcom father, pudding salesman, and model of terrible sweaters (he also made a cartoon about a terrifyingly obese child with a debilitating speech impediment somewhere in there, presumably to complete some kind of career bingo card).

In response to the allegations, NBC canceled its plans to produce a new sitcom with Cosby, and Netflix has indefinitely postponed Cosby's new stand-up special, which was originally scheduled to debut later this month. TV Land is even pulling all reruns of The Cosby Show from its lineup, despite the fact that it probably accounts for around half of their programming. If that weren't enough, here's a super uncomfortable video of Cosby vaguely gibber-stuttering his way out of answering any questions about the allegations, as if haunting accusations of rape will simply disappear like the boogeyman if you deny that they exist. Things are looking pretty grim for Cliff Huxtable.

To be clear, I'm not here to talk about whether Cosby is guilty or innocent -- far more intelligent people are going to be arguing that point in the weeks and months to come, and history will just have to make what it will of Cosby's legacy. Hopefully.

I say hopefully because, while four of these women just made their stories public within the last week, 14 of these accusations first hit the news almost 10 years ago. A former protege of Cosby's filed a civil suit against him in 2005, alleging that he drugged and sexually assaulted her, and 13 other women stepped forward to offer their own stories of assault as anonymous testimony should the case go to trial. However, the suit was ultimately settled out of court, and then America just kind of forgot about the whole thing. Netflix didn't pull any Cosby specials or movies from their catalog. TV Land kept right on airing Cosby Show reruns. The Internet didn't explode with Cosby rape memes.


I certainly didn't remember the accusations from 2005.

More, including comparisons to Woody Allen, at the link above.

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SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
2. Yeah, that's another one that I thought of...
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 09:48 AM
Nov 2014

Maybe it falls into the same situation as Woody Allen - a single incident, or victim, rather than more than a dozen or dozens of victims.

Sid

muriel_volestrangler

(101,325 posts)
4. One victim who took him to court, but another 13 'prepared to testify'
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 10:02 AM
Nov 2014
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/bill-cosbys-prior-bad-acts

I couldn't find any mention of it on DU at the time (though searches that far back aren't always reliable), but that link turned up on a post from a couple of years later, along with:
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=446798&page=1
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A38675-2005Feb19.html

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ZxjOAl9tmBMJ:www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php%3Faz%3Dview_all%26address%3D389x2088397+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk

You'd think coverage in the Washington Post and ABC would have meant it was very well known.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
7. I'm shocked that I don't remember the 2005 allegations at all...
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 10:17 AM
Nov 2014

Usually, I'm pretty tuned into the news, but I'm drawing a complete blank on these.

Thanks for posting the additional links.



Sid

Sedona

(3,769 posts)
14. If you have enough money you can make victims go away like Byrant, Jackson and Cosby
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 10:28 PM
Nov 2014

Michael Jackson agreed to pay $15.3 million to settle child molestation charges leveled against him in 1993 by a California boy, according to a confidential legal agreement. A heavily redacted version of the document can be found here.

The January 1994 agreement contains a one-line reference to Jackson delivering "confessions of judgment" totaling $15,331,250 to the boy's attorneys.


http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/celebrity/michael-jacksons-15-million-payoff

The Kobe Bryant sexual assault case began in July 2003 when the news media reported that the sheriff's office in Eagle, Colorado had arrested professional basketball player Kobe Bryant in connection with an investigation of a sexual assault complaint filed by a 19-year-old hotel employee. Bryant had checked into The Lodge and Spa at Cordillera, a hotel in Edwards, Colorado, on June 30 in advance of having surgery near there on July 2 under Dr. Richard Steadman. The woman accused Bryant of raping her in his hotel room on July 1, the night before the surgery. Bryant admitted to an adulterous sexual encounter with his accuser, but denied the assault allegation. The case was dropped after Bryant's accuser refused to testify in the case. A separate civil suit was later filed against Bryant by the woman. This was settled out of court


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobe_Bryant_sexual_assault_case#Settlement

Chathamization

(1,638 posts)
16. Or Bryan Singer. It's disturbing the degree to which we ignore very serious allegations.
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 09:01 AM
Nov 2014

For example, here's a well received documentary about widespread abuse in Hollywood that's unable to find a distributor. How much guilt do we have for ignoring these things and pretending they don't happen?

madokie

(51,076 posts)
6. I used to like Bill
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 10:07 AM
Nov 2014

but that was before I found out he was a predator of women. There was mention of him on the news yesterday morning and I said to my wife that they've cut his soon to be new show and she said they should

MADem

(135,425 posts)
8. I had heard this rumor for a long while. I didn't hear it from a half-dozen or more victims,
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 10:25 AM
Nov 2014

though...

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
9. If you use the google news search for 2004-2006, there isn't much
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 10:54 AM
Nov 2014
Prosecutor on Cosby allegation: 'I thought he did it'

...

Castor also dismissed the notion that the allegations were somehow swept under the rug at the time.

"It was covered hugely," he said, recalling articles from China to Europe and across U.S. media. "Other than some of the murder cases I had, it was covered more widely than any other case I worked on."

Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20141120_Prosecutor_on_Cosby_sex_assault_claim___quot_I_thought_he_did_it_.html#Q7ZEUYQpJBQqkip3.99

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
11. suppose it's a bit like stories of priest being predatory before that whole matter became officially
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 11:34 AM
Nov 2014

established in the publics mind. There is just a lot of cognitive dissonance when older moralizing figures are discovered to have done shocking things - even if rumors had been about for a long time.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
15. cognitive dissonance
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 10:50 PM
Nov 2014

I think you may have hit on it.

But I have to also wonder if I, and perhaps others, subconsciously ignored it. I can't recall any earlier accusations against Bill Cosby, even though they were out there. I also am an avid news reader, and I do recall Cosby's son dying, but not the lawsuit.

Or was it just not covered by the media, thoroughly? If the media found in incredulous, they may not have given it much coverage.

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
13. It's all been news to me...
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 12:53 PM
Nov 2014

...but now that I'm catching up on all things Cosby, I found this to be a hell of a 'coincidence':

The original trial of Ms. Jackson and her two co-defendants attracted widespread attention because of Mr. Cosby's role as the victim. Testimony in the case showed that on Jan. 16, 1997, the same day that Ms. Jackson made her demand of $40 million, Mr. Cosby's son, Ennis, was killed in California. There was no connection between the two incidents. http://www.nytimes.com/1999/11/16/nyregion/judges-reinstate-conviction-in-extortion-of-bill-cosby.html

TYY

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
17. I idolized the man, memorizing his sixties albums.
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 09:19 AM
Nov 2014

He was brilliant. Until a few weeks ago, I was unaware of any rape allegations.

I don't think there's a conspiracy theory convoluted enough to exonerate him.

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