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Logical

(22,457 posts)
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 12:00 PM Nov 2014

WTF......Rookie NYPD Officer Peter Liang fatally shoots 'totally innocent' Akai Gurley

Last edited Sat Nov 22, 2014, 10:48 PM - Edit history (1)

WTF is wrong with these cowardly cops now days? They want the great pay and benefits for a dangerous job but do not actually want ANY RISK anymore. Shoot first and then get a paid vacation and no criminal charges.

Why were these two idiots walking around the building with their guns un-holstered when they were there just on a routine building check??

Until we start locking up these assholes there is no downside for the cops to do this shit anytime.

From another link is this:

“The deceased is a total innocent who had just happened to be in the hallway at the same time as the cops,” Bratton said. “The deceased was not engaged in any activity other than trying to enter the stairwell.”

Gurley’s girlfriend, 26-year-old Melissa Butler, told DNAinfo, “They didn’t present themselves or nothing and shot him. As soon as he came in, the police opened the [door to the] eighth floor staircase. They didn’t identify themselves at all. They just shot.”

Read more at http://issuehawk.com/igor/2014/11/22/nypd-cop-fatally-shot-totally-innocent-unarmed-black-man-chief-calls-it-unfortunate-accident.html#PHHxgcCCwXbDakIo.99


A rookie cop killed an unarmed, innocent man late Thursday night when his weapon accidentally discharged in a darkened stairwell of a Brooklyn housing project, NYPD Commissioner William Bratton said Friday.

"No dialogue was exchanged" before Officer Peter Liang shot Akai Gurley in the stairwell, where the men crossed paths, Bratton said.

Gurley, a 28-year-old father of a 2-year-old, was unarmed.

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"The deceased is totally innocent," Bratton said at a news conference yesterday. "This is a very unfortunate tragedy. It appears that this was an accidental discharge."

After the 11:15 p.m. shooting, Liang and his partner left the scene but returned a short time later. Gurley, who police said was hit once in the chest, died at Brookdale University Hospital and Medical Center at 11:55 p.m. The officers went to Jamaica Hospital Medical Center for tinnitus, ringing in the ears.

Bratton said Liang had drawn his weapon before encountering Gurley and "will have to give justification why his gun was unholstered."

more at: http://www.newsday.com/news/new-york/rookie-nypd-officer-peter-liang-fatally-shoots-totally-innocent-akai-gurley-top-cop-says-1.9641727
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WTF......Rookie NYPD Officer Peter Liang fatally shoots 'totally innocent' Akai Gurley (Original Post) Logical Nov 2014 OP
Should already be " former" cop. notrightatall Nov 2014 #1
His weapon did not 'accidentally discharge'. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #2
Imagine if in a legal concealed carry state a person accidentally shot a cop...... Logical Nov 2014 #3
Stuff like this happens all the time. bravenak Nov 2014 #4
In NYC? GGJohn Nov 2014 #9
I suppose his partner could have said, "why do you have your gun out, it's not safe." bravenak Nov 2014 #14
They both did. Nt Logical Nov 2014 #15
Exactly!!!! GGJohn Nov 2014 #16
I don't believe the 'accidental discharge' story either. bravenak Nov 2014 #19
I expect that this cop was taught how to use weapons properly Mariana Nov 2014 #28
Is this what people mean when they say 'Keystone Cops'? bravenak Nov 2014 #29
I thought it strange two rookies ctaylors6 Nov 2014 #26
I read the same thing as you. bravenak Nov 2014 #30
The New Lynchings now are by COPS. sammy750 Nov 2014 #5
Yep! Nt Logical Nov 2014 #33
"Accidentally discharged" alcibiades_mystery Nov 2014 #6
True! nt Logical Nov 2014 #7
There's no safety Taurusny22 Nov 2014 #8
scared and jerked the trigger? Couldn't that be foreseen in any shooting? lonestarnot Nov 2014 #12
Can a private citizen be scared and jerk their trigger and shoot a cop without charges? TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #17
LOL, accidentally kill a cop like that and get back to me. I have no doubt...... Logical Nov 2014 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Logical Nov 2014 #31
Still waiting for you to respond to my post below. Nt Logical Nov 2014 #32
Except on Glocks, GGJohn Nov 2014 #11
Their guns were upholstered? XemaSab Nov 2014 #10
My couch cwydro Nov 2014 #13
Proofreeding sarisataka Nov 2014 #18
How nice that a innocent man is killed and all you can do is whine about spelling. nt Logical Nov 2014 #23
No kidding! darkangel218 Nov 2014 #27
So cops get away with murder, I mean they already did...still to see it so blatantly Rex Nov 2014 #20
Out of control police + out of control gun laws = perfect storm. Initech Nov 2014 #22
AP article describes it as a negligent discharge. ManiacJoe Nov 2014 #24
Hope the charge is negligent homicide. nt Logical Nov 2014 #25

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
2. His weapon did not 'accidentally discharge'.
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 12:20 PM
Nov 2014

He pulled the trigger. While pointing the gun directly at another human being.

That's not an accident. It's criminal negligence at the very least, more likely involuntary manslaughter. And it should mean he never holds a gun again.

"will have to give justification why his gun was unholstered" is total BS. He should be going to trial.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
16. Exactly!!!!
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 05:36 PM
Nov 2014

WTF was his gun in his hand, finger on the trigger when all they were doing was a routine check?
And why would he point his gun at someone who is no threat, not presenting any threat?

That's why my bullshit meter is pegged.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
19. I don't believe the 'accidental discharge' story either.
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 05:48 PM
Nov 2014

Improper training is what I think is wrong with Law Enforcement in this shooting. People need to learn how to use weapons properly and keep them under control.

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
28. I expect that this cop was taught how to use weapons properly
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 12:02 AM
Nov 2014

and to keep them under control. He and his partner simply chose to do otherwise. They were probably getting a real charge out of creeping around with their guns drawn, fantasizing about shooting a Bad Guy, and then the victim surprised them. Oops.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
29. Is this what people mean when they say 'Keystone Cops'?
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 12:05 AM
Nov 2014

I think law enforcement needs to revist the policy of not hiring people with too high of an IQ.

sammy750

(165 posts)
5. The New Lynchings now are by COPS.
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 02:18 PM
Nov 2014

Lynchings are now different in the USA. It by cops. And they are getting away with murders of hundreds of blacks.

 

Taurusny22

(24 posts)
8. There's no safety
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 05:12 PM
Nov 2014

NYPD carry Glock 19's. There's no safety. It's likely he had his gun out with his finger on the trigger, when he encountered the victim he got scared and jerked the trigger and fired. Glocks don't fire accidently. They have been dropped from 2 stories and haven't fired. Still doing a vertical patrol in any NYC housing project is scary and dangerous. It's true that often times lights have been smashed and elevators don't work people have to use the stairs, but it's also well known the criminals often victimize people in the stairwells. I once came across a man raping a teenager in a housing project in the Bronx. I hesitated because I though it might consensual in which I would have just told them to leave, but after a second, the girl started to squirm and scream. The man jumped up and ran down the stairs and I gave chase and transmitted a description. He was caught when a marked car ran him over.

I'm certain this cop will be fired. He is a rookie and probably on probation. You can get fired for any infraction when on probation.

I doubt there will be a criminal prosecution though. There's no criminal intent. The shooting is "accidental" because it will be hard to prove he intended to fire the gun, I'm certain he was scared an jerked the trigger.

The family's course of redress will be a civil suit which they should receive millions.

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
17. Can a private citizen be scared and jerk their trigger and shoot a cop without charges?
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 05:46 PM
Nov 2014

Any examples of it going down like that?

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
21. LOL, accidentally kill a cop like that and get back to me. I have no doubt......
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 09:17 PM
Nov 2014

you are a cop with that silly answer.

DUI murder is not criminal intent. Text while driving murder is not either. But people go to jail all the time for that.

Fruitville Station was not criminal intent? Jail time.

You don't seem to know much for being a cop.

Response to Logical (Reply #21)

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
11. Except on Glocks,
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 05:17 PM
Nov 2014

the safety is on the trigger, but what pegs my bullshit meter is that NYPD issued Glocks have a 12 lb trigger pull, which means you have to apply considerable pressure compared to other depts. that carry Glocks, so how is this an accidental shooting?

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
20. So cops get away with murder, I mean they already did...still to see it so blatantly
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 05:52 PM
Nov 2014

excused is disturbing.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
24. AP article describes it as a negligent discharge.
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 11:37 PM
Nov 2014
http://seattletimes.com/html/nationworld/2025074278_rookieshootingxml.html

Gun needlessly unholstered. Turning doorknob with gun still in hand. Trigger pulled when he did not intend to.
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