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PCIntern

(25,565 posts)
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 01:55 PM Nov 2014

When is America gonna wake the Hell up when it comes to this issue?

Was Lucille Ball Lucy Ricardo? Did Don Ameche invent the telephone? Was Doris Day little miss innocent? Was John Wayne a military veteran? Was Glenn Close a psychopathic jilted mistress of a married man?

If you answered "yes" to any of those questions, you are clearly living in an alternate Universe. but you are not alone: an acquaintance of mine used to head the programming division for one of the major networks. When I met him and we got to talking about soap operas, I mentioned that when I was a kid and the plots and stars were much less glamorous than they came to be later, people used to go up to the actors and warn them that their spouse was having an affair with the next door neighbor, or the doctor, or the milkman; or that the son was sneaking cigarettes out of the house with his friends. The fellow replied to me, "What do you mean USED to? They STILL do."

So it seems that so many people thought that Bill Cosby WAS Cliff Huxtable or that his almost-funny humor on his record albums was reflective of his inner being rather than all of these being carefully scripted-for-the-masses works of less-than-art.

A former patient of mine told me about 25 years ago than she had at one time been Bill's fiancee here in Philadelphia and he was still calling her when he came to town for referrals for hookups, as they call them these days, with friends or acquaintances of hers. My entire office staff at the time was witness to her statements which she used to make in the waiting room in front of other patients. At the time I believed her, she was not an insignificant individual in her own right, but she was deliberately and somewhat inappropriately confessing all of this in public for some deep-seated reason. She claimed to have no regrets for not marrying him, BTW.

So when I hear that so-and-so is a "role model", I just shake my head in disbelief that people fall so easily for the persona which is so meticulously crafted for the masses and not understand that in most cases, they have not a single clue as to the true psyche of the "star" in question.

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When is America gonna wake the Hell up when it comes to this issue? (Original Post) PCIntern Nov 2014 OP
A significant number of people out there SheilaT Nov 2014 #1
That's funny Tsiyu Nov 2014 #2
"They think DNA analysis can be done in an hour or so. " dixiegrrrrl Nov 2014 #9
That's good to know, and obviously I have not been keeping up with SheilaT Nov 2014 #11
I only kow because I stumbled across it yesterday! dixiegrrrrl Nov 2014 #12
How about Ronald Reagan? hunter Nov 2014 #3
bit Jane Wyman's nose until it bled.. PCIntern Nov 2014 #5
Confusion is not unique to Americans seveneyes Nov 2014 #4
Lucille Ball was married to Ricky in real life, correct? Quantess Nov 2014 #6
His name was Desi Arnaz... PCIntern Nov 2014 #8
Oh yeah, Desi Arnez, or however it's spelled. Quantess Nov 2014 #10
SEX RobertEarl Nov 2014 #7
Really! Wow…I gotta rethink everything... PCIntern Nov 2014 #13
 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
1. A significant number of people out there
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 03:16 PM
Nov 2014

don't seem able to distinguish between fiction and real life. Your examples are almost trivial, compared to the things people have come to believe in recent years. They think "The DaVinci Code" is a documentary. They think DNA analysis can be done in an hour or so.

I've just finished watching "The Blacklist" on Netflix and I've really enjoyed it. But there are lots of factual slippages, such as a villain being able to somehow insert fake DNA into someone. Or someone weaponizes a fictitious disease so he can find a cure. Or that the characters in the show are nominally based in Washington, DC, but when something happens requiring they chase down someone in Boston, they seem to get there inside a half hour. I've decided I'll overlook such things because James Spader is so amazing, but it still bothers me that they're playing so fast and loose with reality.

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
2. That's funny
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 03:58 PM
Nov 2014

the half hour to Boston thing. One of my friends is into that show. I'll have to check it out.

I guess life sucks so bad, people look to TV shows to make sense, to be all tidily resolved at the end. Very few things in our stress-filled lives are resolved in 30 or 60 minutes, so a TV show can give a sense of completion and satisfaction one rarely achieves ( unless you watch the Walking Dead or Game of Thrones )

And of course, cartoons teach us to accept the physics that allows for Roadrunner to get flattened by an ACME Company anvil and stand up 2 seconds later and say "meep meep" and zip away.

I suppose sitcoms and TV shows are like grown-up cartoons for some people, where reality is suspended for a story.

Too bad we humans are so gullible that some become convinced that suspended reality - or a larger-than-life, benevolent, morally pure TV persona - can be maintained in real life.



dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
9. "They think DNA analysis can be done in an hour or so. "
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 04:47 PM
Nov 2014

Guess what?

Can be done in hours and with a program in a thumb drive.


DNA machine can sequence human genomes in hours

Oxford Nanopore has come up with a DNA sequencing machine the size of a USB memory stick that can decode the building blocks of life within hours rather than days.

Oxford Nanopore's technology claims to do the job within hours - viruses can be decoded within seconds - and is "truly disruptive and game-changing," said Alan Aubrey, chief executive of IP Group, which owns 21.5% of Oxford Nanopore. "The significance of this technology introduction is, in computing terms, analogous to moving from the mainframe to the laptop."
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2012/feb/17/dna-machine-human-sequencing
 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
11. That's good to know, and obviously I have not been keeping up with
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 07:34 PM
Nov 2014

these things.

I do understand that thanks to the various CSI shows, juries had come to expect all sorts of magical crime-solving tricks, including instant DNA analysis back before this machine came about.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
12. I only kow because I stumbled across it yesterday!
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 07:56 PM
Nov 2014

The greatest appeal for most CSI type shows is the character development, for me.
I can let the idiot stuff fly by, mostly.

Mostly.....

hunter

(38,321 posts)
3. How about Ronald Reagan?
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 04:09 PM
Nov 2014

Greatest actor ever.

Bill Cosby is nothing before Saint Ronald who was in "real life" a nasty venal prick.

PCIntern

(25,565 posts)
5. bit Jane Wyman's nose until it bled..
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 04:11 PM
Nov 2014

so said my mother who was acquainted with him and Burgess Meredith back in the Thirties...

 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
4. Confusion is not unique to Americans
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 04:10 PM
Nov 2014

Nor is an underused cliche easily understood. Most people want to think well of those they admire.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
6. Lucille Ball was married to Ricky in real life, correct?
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 04:16 PM
Nov 2014

That one tripped me up, because I don't know Ricky Ricardo's real name. That one actually got me.

I always heard the 2 actors were married in real life.

PCIntern

(25,565 posts)
8. His name was Desi Arnaz...
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 04:42 PM
Nov 2014

their daughter was Luci Arnaz...Lucy and Desi were among the most resourceful, cleverest, shrewdest individuals in early TV. They were NOT Lucy and Ricky as they were portrayed on TV.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
10. Oh yeah, Desi Arnez, or however it's spelled.
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 05:14 PM
Nov 2014

That tv show is before my time, meaning I was not even born when the last show aired. The show was really sexist, but I remember those entertaining reruns when I was preschool aged. Good thing my teenaged older sister pointed out how sexist the show was.

What is Kim Kardashian's biggest asset? Everyone knows the correct answer to that!

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