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It's okay when the white guy does it, right @pjfahren @imaumbn @ConchoQueen @mcrebrst #uniteblue
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)I think it has more to do with party than race. Republicans don't like Obama because he is a democrat. However they do attack him in a racist way, they probably wouldn't do it if he was a Republican though. Just like some people attack black Republicans in a racist way, they wouldn't do if they were Democrats. Racism is wrong no matter what side does it for whatever reason.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)sarisataka
(18,684 posts)You quote from the gospel, book of Reagan 86: 11-6
Savannahmann
(3,891 posts)Did people wholeheartedly embrace it? Did a majority of the people line up and cheer that Reagan had taken the action?
helpmetohelpyou
(589 posts)The law was suppose to fix the border and crack down on employers
none of that happened
Savannahmann
(3,891 posts)That is reasonably consistent with the polling results today. Interestingly at the time, Organized labor objected to it claiming it would replace American workers with Mexican workers. The employer sanctions were opposed by the Hispanic community because of fears of discrimination on all Hispanics.
Here is a outtake of a book on the issue. The book cost a hundred bucks or so, probably if I was bored enough to get it I'd try and find one used on ebay or Amazon.
http://books.google.com/books?id=0BfcwmuNyRoC&pg=PA93&lpg=PA93&dq=poll+support+Reagan+amnesty+plan&source=bl&ots=fPl-Eph0SZ&sig=GZ6YR87kJvGbR2WbxYc8Fkfyxt4&hl=en&sa=X&ei=hZJvVPPMNISgNp3Jg8AL&ved=0CCwQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=poll%20support%20Reagan%20amnesty%20plan&f=false
The Immigration reform of the era was also intertwined with a national ID card, guest worker, and employer sanctions. I remember it because I'd just gotten to California and it was a hot topic in Current Events, so we all discussed the newspaper articles on the issue.
840high
(17,196 posts)congressional approval?
had passed a law that granted legal status to about 3 million IIRC. Then Reagan signed the executive order that affected about 100,000 families so the children of the people falling under the legislation were granted deferred deportation.
840high
(17,196 posts)QuebecYank
(147 posts)The GOP seems to be suffering from short-term memory loss they remember Benghazi but forget the number of attacks on, and deaths of, US personnel during the GWB administration. Or, it could just be selective memory. Either way, the GOP/TP have a buffet-type approach when arguing Obama's plans, or defending their arguments.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)and 60 deaths under Bush, and we never heard much about those at all. Welcome to DU
QuebecYank
(147 posts)I look forward to some great discussions.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)in Feb 2002. I hope to return for a visit one day, if only for poutine
QuebecYank
(147 posts)Most English-speaking people want to leave. I think you can get poutine, just about anywhere now.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)because it provides a comparison that republicans can't tolerate.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Geez, what are you thinking.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)hughee99
(16,113 posts)doesn't necessarily reflect what the members want.
lpbk2713
(42,762 posts)Until that pic of Runny RayGun showed up on my monitor.
egduj
(805 posts)But using race to differentiate between the two makes a much hipper meme.
FSogol
(45,496 posts)csziggy
(34,136 posts)They used the same words, the same ideas:
http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/20/politics/obama-immigration-bush/index.html?hpt=po_c1
But CNN faults President Obama for "changing the rules" instead of giving up the way Bush did.
By Stephen Collinson, CNN
updated 11:27 AM EST, Fri November 21, 2014
Washington (CNN) -- When George W. Bush couldn't get an immigration overhaul though the Senate, he gave up. When Barack Obama couldn't get a bill through the House, he changed the rules.
Rewriting the immigration system was at the core of Bush's "compassionate conservatism" political brand and was dear to his heart.
"It didn't work," a deflated Bush said on a June day seven years ago when the comprehensive reform effort finally died on Capitol Hill.
<SNIP>
Obama refuses to accept the same fate.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/20/politics/obama-immigration-bush/index.html?hpt=po_c1
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Joe Magarac
(297 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)new Union Members. Hispanics and African American as well as Asian folks that are doing the shit many of our so called White Americans think is beneath their privileged status. Lots of moving parts to our Democracy isn't. Now step up and make it work,it does know one any good bad mouthing progress,either lead follow or get the hell out of the way.
spanone
(135,854 posts)This analysis was provided by a young Lee Atwater. Its significance is two fold: First, it offers an unvarnished account of Reagans strategy. Second, it reveals the thinking of Atwater himself, someone whose career traced the rise of GOP dog whistle politics. A protégé of the pro-segregationist Strom Thurmond in South Carolina, the young Atwater held Richard Nixon as a personal hero, even describing Nixons Southern strategy as a blue print for everything Ive done. After assisting in Reagans initial victory, Atwater became the political director of Reagans 1984 campaign, the manager of George Bushs 1988 presidential campaign, and eventually the chair of the Republican National Committee. In all of these capacities, he drew on the quick sketch of dog whistle politics he had offered in 1981: from n, n, n to states rights and forced busing, and from there to cutting taxesand linking all of these, race . . . coming on the back burner.
http://www.salon.com/2014/01/11/the_racism_at_the_heart_of_the_reagan_presidency/
hughee99
(16,113 posts)in recent memory.
The implication is that the republicans are racists, right? They're okay when Reagan does it, but hate it when the "black guy" does it?
If they're really racists, they won't care WHO is signing an EO that lets millions of "brown people" stay in the US, because if they're racists, they hate the "brown people" too.
Marr
(20,317 posts)It was the thing they always cited as his one big 'mistake'.