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MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 04:32 PM Nov 2014

The Smithsonian Names Sarah Palin One Of The Top 100 Most Significant Americans

The Smithsonian Names Sarah Palin One Of The Top 100 Most Significant Americans, Leaves Out President Obama

In the following list, which of these people don’t belong?

Abraham Lincoln
George Washington
Franklin Roosevelt
Neil Armstrong
Martin Luther King Jr.
Frederick Douglass
Eleanor Roosevelt
Sarah Palin
Hellen Keller
Thomas Jefferson
Frank Sinatra
Michael Jackson
Mark Twain
Walt Disney
George W. Bush
Henry Ford
Jackie Robinson
Babe Ruth
Steve Jobs
Muhammad Ali

This is merely 20 of the people Smithsonian Magazine included in its list of the 100 most influential Americans of all-time. ALL-TIME! That means in all of American history, even prior to the founding of our nation.

And if you immediately picked out Sarah Palin as one the people on this list who stick out like a sore thumb, congratulations. You’re a sane and intelligent person.

The other person, though more deserving of the honor than Palin and yet probably doesn’t belong there either, is George W. Bush.

Smithsonian put together their list by enlisting Steven Skiena, Distinguished Teaching Professor of Computer Science at Stony Brook University, and Charles B. Ward, an engineer at Google who is an expert in ranking methodologies. The pair used “an algorithmic method of ranking historical figures, just as Google ranks web pages,” and “their concept of significance has less to do with achievement than with an individual’s strength as an Internet meme — how vividly he or she remains in our collective memory.”

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/11/22/the-smithsonian-names-sarah-palin-one-of-the-top-100-most-significant-americans-leaves-out-president-obama/

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The Smithsonian Names Sarah Palin One Of The Top 100 Most Significant Americans (Original Post) MrScorpio Nov 2014 OP
Significance based on "strength as an Internet meme"? arcane1 Nov 2014 #1
Good grief cyberswede Nov 2014 #25
For fuck's sake. Now historians are ranking significant persons in history Nay Nov 2014 #52
They left off Bozo the Clown pscot Nov 2014 #2
I don't see Stinky the Clown on the list, either. madinmaryland Nov 2014 #55
I really give Sarah most of the credit Voice for Peace Nov 2014 #3
Nixon, Reagan and Bush I via Lee Atwater BeyondGeography Nov 2014 #8
Again, I think she unleashed the tea party. Voice for Peace Nov 2014 #12
Gerrymandering and Citizens United caused them to get elected BeyondGeography Nov 2014 #15
ok we still disagree somewhat but so what. Voice for Peace Nov 2014 #53
idiots all. the Smithsonian for using this absurd method and Skiena and Ward for employing it. cali Nov 2014 #4
The Smithsonian should be embarrassed. nt cyberswede Nov 2014 #26
Look at the last election every other year we live in Palin America just long enough Exultant Democracy Nov 2014 #5
Probably significant in how she rose so high above her level. lpbk2713 Nov 2014 #6
Most significant half-term half-wit governor evah! tanyev Nov 2014 #7
Half-wit and half-term. Both half-baked. lonestarnot Nov 2014 #13
Half-baked Alaska Hekate Nov 2014 #27
That the consultants did a half-assed job is strangely fitting, given this result. :) pinboy3niner Nov 2014 #46
Snort. lonestarnot Nov 2014 #61
Oops omomma Nov 2014 #9
I can see there is hope for me, I expect to see my name there next time. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #10
Surely this is the Onion! If not, stopping all my donations to this organization. And I donate a kelliekat44 Nov 2014 #11
. jberryhill Nov 2014 #22
Then Grumpy Cat should be in the Number 1 spot. nichomachus Nov 2014 #54
Significance is measured by how vast the internet meme? Voice for Peace Nov 2014 #14
Wow. How insulting to people who are actually influential. City Lights Nov 2014 #16
No that is right, significants doesn't always mean good deeds or good impact. Rex Nov 2014 #17
It's hard to argue against helpmetohelpyou Nov 2014 #18
You've been quoted sunnystarr Nov 2014 #33
Wow , no that's not me who posted there helpmetohelpyou Nov 2014 #34
good to hear but sunnystarr Nov 2014 #38
Single handedly, no treestar Nov 2014 #58
Significant in the fact she help destroy America. When she was allowed in. Stupid became the norm Katashi_itto Nov 2014 #19
Well so much for the Smithsonian. One more istitute we can forget. This is not educational. jwirr Nov 2014 #20
Let's see the whole list. Is P.T. Barnum on it? jberryhill Nov 2014 #21
Another fine institution flushes itself down the toilet of irrelevance. eom MohRokTah Nov 2014 #23
FWIW, the World list they put out last year muriel_volestrangler Nov 2014 #24
"Significant" doesn't necessarily mean significant in a good way. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2014 #28
Don't fall for the PR stunt madville Nov 2014 #29
Caribou Barbie doesn't belong there truebluegreen Nov 2014 #30
HA HA HA HA HA HA demigoddess Nov 2014 #31
Well, she IS a significant -- WhiteAndNerdy Nov 2014 #32
“their concept of significance has less to do with achievement than with an individual’s strength a Cha Nov 2014 #35
That would put Obama at #1, wouldn't it? ucrdem Nov 2014 #36
Yes, ucr.. Pres Obama is Cha Nov 2014 #37
Yep. ucrdem Nov 2014 #39
Smithsonian can stuff their "list" of internet "memes" Cha Nov 2014 #41
John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald are also on the list. ucrdem Nov 2014 #45
Yeah, they're "significant".. much more than say Cha Nov 2014 #47
. . . because L. Ron Hubbard is much more significant than JFK. ucrdem Nov 2014 #48
Who? Cha Nov 2014 #49
this guy is also on the list: ucrdem Nov 2014 #50
Now who can argue with that? pinboy3niner Nov 2014 #40
Gabby Johnson said it best! "Internet memes" Rule at the Smithsonian! Cha Nov 2014 #42
I'm betting they won't use THAT methodology again pinboy3niner Nov 2014 #43
That's why it pays to speak Up.. The squeaky Cha Nov 2014 #44
Koch brothers give a lot of money to them MFM008 Nov 2014 #51
Yep. Natural History museum. Action_Patrol Nov 2014 #56
spanone names the smithsonian one of the top 100 least significant american thingys. spanone Nov 2014 #57
I think significant is not necessarily good. alarimer Nov 2014 #59
I would say that George W Bush doesn't belong on that list either Initech Nov 2014 #60

Nay

(12,051 posts)
52. For fuck's sake. Now historians are ranking significant persons in history
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 08:21 AM
Nov 2014

based on Internet memes? Have we totally lost our fucking minds?? Which right-wing think tank thought this shit up? And how did the Smithsonian fall for it?

Honestly, that meteor can hit any time now. I'm done.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
3. I really give Sarah most of the credit
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 04:43 PM
Nov 2014

for unleashing the tea party and the christian right.
Pandora's Box. Has that happened before in our history?
She may be an evil force, but her influence hasn't been
insignificant. Hideous, yes.

BeyondGeography

(39,377 posts)
8. Nixon, Reagan and Bush I via Lee Atwater
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 05:03 PM
Nov 2014

all tapped into those forces without needing Sarah Palin on the ticket. She brought absolutely nothing new to the right-wing political equation in terms of followers. If she did, she'd be a sitting VP right now.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
12. Again, I think she unleashed the tea party.
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 05:21 PM
Nov 2014

All sorts of crazies, perhaps, have always run for office.
But her influence has caused them to start getting elected.

She empowered the craziest of the craziest to come out of the
woodwork and be herd.
er, heard.

maybe it was always going on but if so, I missed it.

BeyondGeography

(39,377 posts)
15. Gerrymandering and Citizens United caused them to get elected
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 05:32 PM
Nov 2014

much moreso than Sarah Palin. Boring but true. Do you think Eric Cantor feels he lost his job because of Sarah Palin?

The list is a quaint idea. Individuals don't have the impact they used to, unless they do something horrifically bad. I agree with whomever said W. should be on the list. Things actually did change because of him.

Exultant Democracy

(6,594 posts)
5. Look at the last election every other year we live in Palin America just long enough
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 04:46 PM
Nov 2014

to make America shitty almost all the time.

lpbk2713

(42,763 posts)
6. Probably significant in how she rose so high above her level.
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 04:49 PM
Nov 2014



It's not every day you find an idiot like this gain such prominence.






(Damn you all to hell John McLame)



tanyev

(42,584 posts)
7. Most significant half-term half-wit governor evah!
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 04:55 PM
Nov 2014

She's going to be insufferable after this. Even more, I mean.

omomma

(1 post)
9. Oops
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 05:10 PM
Nov 2014

Was there any particular reason to exclude the first African-American president but add the first female American clown-itician? Oh wait...

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
10. I can see there is hope for me, I expect to see my name there next time.
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 05:16 PM
Nov 2014

Talk about digging to the bottom of the barrel

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
11. Surely this is the Onion! If not, stopping all my donations to this organization. And I donate a
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 05:20 PM
Nov 2014

lot to them.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
22. .
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 05:54 PM
Nov 2014
The pair used “an algorithmic method of ranking historical figures, just as Google ranks web pages,” and “their concept of significance has less to do with achievement than with an individual’s strength as an Internet meme — how vividly he or she remains in our collective
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
17. No that is right, significants doesn't always mean good deeds or good impact.
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 05:38 PM
Nov 2014

Dubya for being the worst president in history and destroying decades of progress. Palin for setting back women 100 years.

 

helpmetohelpyou

(589 posts)
18. It's hard to argue against
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 05:43 PM
Nov 2014

She single handedly started an entire movement inside the republican party
Her movement pretty much determined the way congress acted against the President
for the last 6 years

muriel_volestrangler

(101,331 posts)
24. FWIW, the World list they put out last year
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 08:33 PM
Nov 2014

which doesn't have the '10 categories' that the Smithsonian wanted. Still based on English Wikipedia, though, so American and British people get undo prominence (eg Henry VIII of England cannot be justified at #11; and Grover Cleveland at #98?)

http://ideas.time.com/2013/12/10/whos-biggest-the-100-most-significant-figures-in-history/

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,776 posts)
28. "Significant" doesn't necessarily mean significant in a good way.
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 09:02 PM
Nov 2014

Palin is arguably significant in having been the dumbest, most all-around egregious running mate ever.

madville

(7,412 posts)
29. Don't fall for the PR stunt
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 09:16 PM
Nov 2014

"How do we get attention and get people to talk about a list no one will look at?"

"Put Sarah Palin on it"

"You're a genius!"

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
30. Caribou Barbie doesn't belong there
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 09:35 PM
Nov 2014

but Dimson Bush certainly does...if you count "destroying the nation he was supposed to be leading" as "influential." We are going to be a long time recovering from that insane criminal.

Cha

(297,382 posts)
35. “their concept of significance has less to do with achievement than with an individual’s strength a
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 02:30 AM
Nov 2014
as an Internet meme"

Stupid.

Mahalo Mr Scorpio~

Cha

(297,382 posts)
47. Yeah, they're "significant".. much more than say
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 03:22 AM
Nov 2014

Presidents John Fitzgerald Kennedy(on today of all days).. and Barack Hussein Obama.

MFM008

(19,818 posts)
51. Koch brothers give a lot of money to them
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 08:15 AM
Nov 2014

I think Davey boy has his own wing in the Smithsonian. I wonder if politics influenced anything, including the absence of President Obama.

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