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Texas approves textbooks with Moses as Founding Father
November 21, 2014Leave a Comment
by: Michael Stone
Christian conservatives win, children lose: Texas textbooks will teach public school students that the Founding Fathers based the Constitution on the Bible, and the American system of democracy was inspired by Moses.
On Friday the Republican-controlled Texas State Board of Education voted along party lines 10-5 to approve the biased and inaccurate textbooks. The vote signals a victory for Christian conservatives in Texas, and a disappointing defeat for historical accuracy and the education of innocent children.
The textbooks were written to align with instructional standards that the Board of Education approved back in 2010 with the explicit intention of forcing social studies teaching to adhere to a conservative Christian agenda. The standards require teachers to emphasize Americas so called Christian heritage.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2014/11/texas-approves-textbooks-with-moses-as-founding-father/
I hope to hell I've been taken in by a hoax, because this is downright scary.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)they set the standard for the rest of the country. Hopefully others states start standing up and demand some sanity, because sanity won't come from here
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)and have lived here 22 years. I want to return to my native Ohio one day, but my grandchildren are here. Ohio can be crazy, too, but at least they have autumn
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)The ignorance and wishful thinking along with military power and the willingness to use military power accompanied by a rejection of learning, science, study, investigation, honesty, realism -- all will result in the deterioration of our society into an opinionated, superstitious and very foolish chaos. That makes a society vulnerable to conquest by others. It's pretty sad.
Louisiana1976
(3,962 posts)DBoon
(22,382 posts)Ends with Ted Cruz
Orsino
(37,428 posts)yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Not a surprise. Very typical actually. It does allow more faulse doom and gloom though.
louis-t
(23,295 posts)until Ronnie Reagan came along and saved us all. Oh wait, that was Huckabee's children's indoctrination book.
Dirty Socialist
(3,252 posts)N/t
lpbk2713
(42,763 posts)It won't be long before the enlightened world sees a diploma
from any Texas school at any level as worthless. Too bad the
children will have to pay for such stupidity.
TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)kcr
(15,317 posts)Never mind once its implemented it will be successfully legally challenged because no way this passes constitutional muster.
ctaylors6
(693 posts)as their primary sources very often except for in their math classes. I think maybe in early elementary years they'd use the social studies and science books a little. And one had a Texas history teacher who relied primarily on the textbook but still supplemented quite a bit.
Edited to add: After polling my kids on this, one told me than in an AP history class they use the book more frequently than in past classes, but it's not a Texas book.
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)on point
(2,506 posts)kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)This blogger appears to have smooshed together comments by board members into his story.
Here is a snippet:
"Others brought conflicting testimony about the role of Christianity in our nation's founding.
"Moses was a lawgiver as well as a religious leader," said Jonathan Saenz of Texas Vales, while quoting past Supreme Court decisions.
"Passages exaggerating the influence of Christianity on this nation's founding still remain in some of the textbooks," countered Zachary Kopplin with Americans United for Separation of Church and State."
snip-
The Republican-controlled State Board of Education voted along party lines 10-5 Friday, sanctioning most proposed books and electronic lessons. It defeated six books, however, and Houghton Mifflin Harcourt withdrew a high school government textbook.
-snip
For what it's worth, my son is a high school junior here in Texas (Houston). His textbooks (when they used them the school has moved on to tablets) were not steeped in Christianity.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)They might have loaded the textbooks onto the tablets.
sunnystarr
(2,638 posts)Like DUH .... lol
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)PCIntern
(25,564 posts)remember Mel Brooks' "These fifteen Commandments..(drops one tablet) these ten Commandments .)
sunnystarr
(2,638 posts)ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)Don't assume I'm not paying attention to what my kid is doing in school. No, they are not accessing and downloading textbooks. If you read the entire article, it speaks of what you are talking about. I'd be pretty damned stupid not to realize that.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)Wella
(1,827 posts)Biblical inspiration, not that Moses was a literal "founding father."
I hate when blog writers use these inflammatory and inaccurate headlines. I guess that's how they make their money.
That being said, it is inaccurate to say that Biblical law was the model for the Constitution. The American governmental structure was designed based on the writings of Enlightenment writers, including John Locke and Montesquieu. The founders may have depended on religion to civilize the populace, but they did not take their ideas on government from any particular church or from the Bible. Texas is trying to save Christianity by glomming it on to something that it did not influence very much at all.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)JonLP24
(29,322 posts)Journalists in general do this. How do you get readers? By the title.
For example I remember a title "Tiger Woods pulls out iPhone on course, causes stir" -- It was really a minor story but with his "racy texts" the article mentions it gives a perception of something far more interesting than it actually is.
"He was helping me with my putting," Mark O'Meara, another former Masters champion, said. "I had a loop in my putting stroke. He wanted to film my putting stroke."
Read more: http://www.ctvnews.ca/tiger-woods-pulls-out-iphone-on-course-causes-stir-1.499387#ixzz3JqoRe6Jg
Wella
(1,827 posts)The writers spent more time on a catchy title than content.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)Wella
(1,827 posts)Your analogy doesn't work.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)IDemo
(16,926 posts)Skittles
(153,169 posts)everyone else, hoo boy and HOWDY
I've got to go to Europe shortly and deal with the usual "stupid American" bias that the rest of the world has. Well founded in some ways as we are so backward from the rest of the first world. Sigh. When people ask if I'm American, I just say "I'm from California." That helps. Sigh.
And California is going to fix this textbook shit right quick, so I don't really worry about it.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)divided the Grand Canyon to escape the Egyptians.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)CHECKMATE, ATHEISTS
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Kablooie
(18,637 posts)So you aren't being taken in but he isn't defined precisely as a Founding Father.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)They just are.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Explains how they are made. It perfectly explains how seemingly nice people can have these extremely bizarre beliefs. I think it's important that we all understand that conservatives are in fact being *purposely* manufactured. And then come up with ways to deal with it (I have a theory).
http://members.shaw.ca/jeanaltemeyer/drbob/TheAuthoritarians.pdf
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)I think there are quite enough conservatives as it is without them being purposely manufactured.
packman
(16,296 posts)And here he is holding the first 10 admendments to the Constitution- what further proof do we need?
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)I can never figure out this "Biblical Constitution" stuff given the outright contradiction between:
Commandment 1: You will only worship one God.
Amendment 1: You can worship whatever gods you want.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Thomas Jefferson for one.
Wow! How is it that a bunch of historical illiterates get to approve history textbooks?
I would advise them to read the correspondence between John Adams and Thomas Jefferson as it pertains to religion.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)they are crazy. Poor kids....these religious dolts are just as bad as any extremists in any religion. Idiots.
jalan48
(13,874 posts)Joseph Stalin would be proud.
exboyfil
(17,864 posts)Initech
(100,088 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)ashling
(25,771 posts)way too many of them already think that way.
I had a student a few years back write that she felt that the constitution was divinely inspired in what was supposed to be an essay comparing the constitutional interpretation of Scalia vs. that of a sane person. The paper went on to say that the Hebrews would never have questioned what god meant in the ten commandments -- then she went on to write them all in her paper. They would hve just accepted them like god put them in the bible - King James Version, of course.
I kid you not
she used only two sources: the text book (reluctantly I assume) and some book by a preacher fro Azle, Tx (I don't remember whether or not it was "Dr." and self proclaimed historian David Barton.)
Then there is the paper I assigned on government regulation that was entitled "Government Regulation: a.k.a., socialism"
Don't get me wrong, I have some really great students who are eager to learn. Sometimes they don't know they are eager to learn until somebody tries to facilitate their learning rather than shoving FOX and Founding Father Moses down their throats.
Now it's just going to be tougher,
Trillo
(9,154 posts)By intentionally miseducating kids in earlier grades, there are more opportunities for re-educating later. It helps keep you employed!
joeglow3
(6,228 posts)And have an assignment to "compare the writings of Scalia with a sane person"?
ashling
(25,771 posts)constitutional interpretation employed by Justices Scalia and Breyer.
I did not think it was necessary to point out the obvious sarcasm
joeglow3
(6,228 posts)Makes me think back to the RW bullshit I had to deal with in two college accounting courses I took.
ashling
(25,771 posts)The assignment presented to the class had no sarcasm and no personal opinion directed.
However, it is possible to present opinion if it is done fairly.
Yavin4
(35,443 posts)then why did slavery persist after the ratification of the constitution. Doesn't the existence of slavery mean that the constitution was not influenced by Moses???
exboyfil
(17,864 posts)All the others just take their chances. Here is a humorous animation about the situation:
Auggie
(31,176 posts)gwheezie
(3,580 posts)The rightwing fundie loons conflated the bible, constitution and atlas shrugged. Jesus galt preached in his sermon on the mount of money "don't ask me for help"
Rex
(65,616 posts)YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)It's Unconstitutional and I hope Americans United for the Separation of Church and State sue. If Texas wants to become a Christian State, than let them secede from the Union.
geomon666
(7,512 posts)They don't even read their own book yet want to force it on the rest of us.
DFW
(54,415 posts)They are trying to make sure that our children swallow their adult fairy tale.
Hoppy
(3,595 posts)aquart
(69,014 posts)Orsino
(37,428 posts)pansypoo53219
(20,983 posts)KansDem
(28,498 posts)What about Larry and Curly?
TBF
(32,075 posts)a lot about her going to Europe for college ... trying to get her to learn German! I should buy tapes and do it with her.
I would hate for my kids to be so far away but she's the oldest w/a lot of motivation. Texas is not the place for her and I want her to get out and have a chance.
JEB
(4,748 posts)bleedinglib
(212 posts)Didn't Ronnie write the constitution?? after he came down from the mountain ?
Takket
(21,589 posts)Historic NY
(37,452 posts)was he here in 1776?
muriel_volestrangler
(101,331 posts)and a travesty of history to give more ancient influence on the Enlightenment ideas that did produce the USA to Israelites rather than the Roman Republic. But that all comes from the influence of religion - they think their religion must be what produced their country, despite the long association, both in the Old Testament and in European 'Christendom', of kings with the biblical religions.