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Playinghardball

(11,665 posts)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 01:15 PM Nov 2014

Petitioning Target to Remove the Disrespectful Cards about Pres. Obama




This petition will be delivered to: Target: Remove the Disrespectful Cards about Pres. Obama

Whether a person supports President Obama's policies or not, he is the president of the United States. The office of president is not just the person who is in the office; it is an institution. The president is the figurehead of the U.S.--some even say, "the leader of the free world." Target should not stock, support, and sell cards that blatantly disrespect who the president is.
American citizens and corporations showing blatant, overt disrespect to the president shows Americans in a negative light; it reflects negatively on the image of Americans in other parts of the world.

https://www.change.org/p/target-remove-the-disrespectful-cards-about-pres-obama?recruiter=2682369&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=share_twitter_responsive
Please remove this card and others like it.
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Petitioning Target to Remove the Disrespectful Cards about Pres. Obama (Original Post) Playinghardball Nov 2014 OP
So I have to throw out my President Bush birthday cards? yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #1
There is a sense of balance in this. Xyzse Nov 2014 #3
Very good point!!!!! They probably did. yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #7
A lot of my friends got cards I bought there that mocked either Bush or Sarah Palin pinboy3niner Nov 2014 #5
Signed and shared shenmue Nov 2014 #2
so you thought similar stuff using bush was just dreadful, right? right? cali Nov 2014 #19
I saw that very card two days ago. CBGLuthier Nov 2014 #4
Thanks, Luthier! elleng Nov 2014 #6
Destruction of property... Oktober Nov 2014 #8
I might buy a Fudgsicle and then go look them over. lpbk2713 Nov 2014 #17
Classy, destroy property that doesn't belong to you. GGJohn Nov 2014 #21
Destruction of property, nice move!!! Travis_0004 Nov 2014 #25
Do what you want, but as long as it's only mildly disrespectful Quantess Nov 2014 #9
I agree. n/t Gormy Cuss Nov 2014 #39
I bought the same card HappyMe Nov 2014 #10
If it's not racist, who cares? vi5 Nov 2014 #11
I found the George W. Bush "Dog Poop Flags" to be quite funny. . . Journeyman Nov 2014 #12
I remember those, GGJohn Nov 2014 #23
If we can't mock our leaders we aren't living in America. nt Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #13
Thin skin ... JEFF9K Nov 2014 #14
Free Speech goes both ways charlie and algernon Nov 2014 #15
And free speech also allows the petition to remove it... LanternWaste Nov 2014 #32
The petition wouldn't remove it, that would be up to Target's upper management. GGJohn Nov 2014 #33
Hmmm, I bought Pres. Bush cards similar to this. GGJohn Nov 2014 #16
Ummm... AZ Mike Nov 2014 #18
If you would do this if the card read "Bush" or "Romney" instead Dreamer Tatum Nov 2014 #20
Disrespectful? Really? NCTraveler Nov 2014 #22
I'll get right on that Capt. Obvious Nov 2014 #24
A lot of posts in this thread are equating the Bush cards with this Obama card... KansDem Nov 2014 #26
In both cases it is political satire. former9thward Nov 2014 #37
Thanks, but no SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #27
Lèse-majesté Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #28
I believe I'll pass. Brigid Nov 2014 #29
yeah, only cards against GOP presidents should be allowed!1 m-lekktor Nov 2014 #30
Well, I had a "Nixon asshole" poster at one time. I recall the First Shirt liking it. Scuba Nov 2014 #31
ROFLMAO. Brickbat Nov 2014 #34
Im going to buy one on Thanksgiving. DUs head would explode. Travis_0004 Nov 2014 #35
Haha tammywammy Nov 2014 #38
I find the petition more offensive than the card itself. Throd Nov 2014 #36
lol helpmetohelpyou Nov 2014 #40
Meh, I find the petition to be more offensive than the cards, reminding me of the rwers when uppityperson Nov 2014 #41
That's a great card to give to Politicalboi Nov 2014 #42
They've done these kind of cards with every President I can remember Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2014 #43
Eh, it's a stupid card. Whatever. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2014 #44
I have a deck of cards leftynyc Nov 2014 #45
For crying out loud - lynne Nov 2014 #46
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
1. So I have to throw out my President Bush birthday cards?
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 01:18 PM
Nov 2014

They are relatively the same except they josh Bush on his speaking. We are 50 percent of the population. The other half wants the cards like we did in early 2000's.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
3. There is a sense of balance in this.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 01:20 PM
Nov 2014

You're right. I agree.
Don't have to like it, but I agree.

On edit-
Still, they are also definitely on point for setting up a petition such as this.
I am sure they did the same thing back then too.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
5. A lot of my friends got cards I bought there that mocked either Bush or Sarah Palin
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 01:23 PM
Nov 2014

I liked their funny political cards when I used to shop there.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
4. I saw that very card two days ago.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 01:21 PM
Nov 2014

Unfortunately they fell to the ground while I was holding them and got stepped on and kicked underneath the counter.

Oopsie!

 

Oktober

(1,488 posts)
8. Destruction of property...
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 01:26 PM
Nov 2014

Classy...

Destroy anything else that didn't belong to you while you were there?

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
17. I might buy a Fudgsicle and then go look them over.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 01:46 PM
Nov 2014



So what if I'm not the neatest person in the world.


Quantess

(27,630 posts)
9. Do what you want, but as long as it's only mildly disrespectful
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 01:26 PM
Nov 2014

I think cards like these should be available to those who want to buy them. We had mildly disrespectful cards & calendars for the pretzeldent W, remember?

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
10. I bought the same card
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 01:32 PM
Nov 2014

that portrayed Dubya that way for my sister.

This one is horrible, but the Dubya card wasn't.

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
11. If it's not racist, who cares?
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 01:34 PM
Nov 2014

They've had this type of thing for every president in my lifetime. Why should Obama be any different?

Journeyman

(15,031 posts)
12. I found the George W. Bush "Dog Poop Flags" to be quite funny. . .
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 01:40 PM
Nov 2014


http://stupid-ideas.blogspot.com/2006/08/george-bush-dog-poop-flags.html


Gotta lighten up. We don't elect a King, nor do we have to treat our elected officials as sacrosanct.
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
32. And free speech also allows the petition to remove it...
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 02:28 PM
Nov 2014

And free speech also allows the petition to remove it...

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
16. Hmmm, I bought Pres. Bush cards similar to this.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 01:46 PM
Nov 2014

Just ignore it, those that don't like them, won't buy them.

AZ Mike

(468 posts)
18. Ummm...
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 01:47 PM
Nov 2014

Who really gives a damn about this?

No president deserves fealty. There is nothing offensive about this card. This is oversensitivity. I'm very defensive on behalf of Obama, but only when it actually matters - such as when people compare him to Hitler or claim he's a communist.

This, however, is silliness.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
20. If you would do this if the card read "Bush" or "Romney" instead
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 01:48 PM
Nov 2014

then proceed.

Otherwise, grow some thicker skin. He's the President, not your teen idol.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
22. Disrespectful? Really?
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 01:48 PM
Nov 2014

A little light-hearted humor at the expense of the President of one of the most powerful countries in the world and a multi-millionaire. Yeah, that will be high on my list of priorities. Have you seen this President take part in more disrespectful actions than this card? Have you petitioned to get him out of the White House? Of course not.

Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts)
24. I'll get right on that
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 01:53 PM
Nov 2014

right after I finish asking Target to stop putting the hand shopping baskets so far away from the door. If I'm forced to use a cart I'm going to fill it even if I'm just there to buy toilet paper.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
26. A lot of posts in this thread are equating the Bush cards with this Obama card...
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 02:03 PM
Nov 2014

Oh, I don't know, maybe if Obama ignored warnings of an impending attack on US soil, then sat and did nothing while that attack took place, then flew all of the mastermind's relatives (O's family friends and business partners) out of the US the day after the attack when commercial airliners were grounded and before the FBI could question them, then invaded a country that had nothing to do with the attack, killing hundreds of thousands of people and adding trillions to the US deficit, I might feel differently about a card lampooning him.

But until that time, I see a universe of difference between B and O.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
28. Lèse-majesté
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 02:10 PM
Nov 2014
Lèse-majesté /ˌliːz ˈmædʒɨsti/[1] (French: lèse-majesté [lɛz maʒɛste]; Law French, from the Latin laesa maiestas, "injured majesty"; in English, also lese-majesty, lese majesty or leze majesty) is the crime of violating majesty, an offence against the dignity of a reigning sovereign or against a state.

This behavior was first classified as a criminal offence against the dignity of the Roman Republic of Ancient Rome.[citation needed] In the Dominate, or Late Empire period the emperors eliminated the Republican trappings of their predecessors and began to identify the state with their person.[2] Although legally the princeps civitatis (his official title, meaning, roughly, 'first citizen') could never become a sovereign because the republic was never officially abolished, emperors were deified as divus, first posthumously but by the Dominate period while reigning. Deified emperors enjoyed the same legal protection that was accorded to the divinities of the state cult; by the time it was replaced by Christianity, what was in all but name a monarchical tradition had already become well established.

Narrower conceptions of offences against Majesty as offences against the crown predominated in the European kingdoms that emerged in the early medieval period. In feudal Europe, some crimes were classified as lèse-majesté even if they were not intentionally directed against the crown. An example is counterfeiting, so classified because coins bore the monarch's effigy and/or coat of arms.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lèse-majesté



Throd

(7,208 posts)
36. I find the petition more offensive than the card itself.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 03:18 PM
Nov 2014

Ridicule is one of the prices of holding political office, as it should be.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
41. Meh, I find the petition to be more offensive than the cards, reminding me of the rwers when
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 03:57 PM
Nov 2014

there was so much anti-shrub stuff out there and their "respect the office" calls.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
42. That's a great card to give to
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 04:16 PM
Nov 2014

Your family member or "friend" who thinks it's all Obama's fault. And sign it your Emperor in Chief. These cards would be great for Obama to send to GOP members of congress and senate.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
43. They've done these kind of cards with every President I can remember
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 04:30 PM
Nov 2014

I've received some. I think it's more "poking fun" than disrespect.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
44. Eh, it's a stupid card. Whatever.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 04:32 PM
Nov 2014

We had them when Bush was president, we had them when Obama's president, and we'll have them for whomever is the next president.

Plenty of worse things to get worked up about.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
45. I have a deck of cards
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 04:35 PM
Nov 2014

with George W Bush dressed in drag (a different outfit every card). That's in no less bad taste than these cards. First amendment means sometimes you get offended. Welcome to the USA.

lynne

(3,118 posts)
46. For crying out loud -
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 04:39 PM
Nov 2014

- there are similar cards for every president and they've been around for years. Get a sense of humor!

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