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spanone

(135,833 posts) Mon Nov 24, 2014, 02:50 PM Nov 2014

Rand Paul Calls for a Formal Declaration of War Against ISIS

WASHINGTON, Nov 24 (Reuters) - U.S. Senator Rand Paul, a possible Republican candidate for president in 2016, is calling for a formal declaration of war against Islamic State militants who control parts of Iraq and Syria, the New York Times reported on Monday.

In an interview on Saturday, Paul said his proposal would limit the duration of military action to one year and significantly restrict the use of ground forces, the Times said.

His proposal differs from others circulating in Washington in that he wants to formally declare war against Islamic State, which Congress has not done since World War Two, the newspaper said.

Some members of the U.S. Congress have said U.S. President Barack Obama is waging war against the Islamist militant group without proper congressional oversight.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/24/rand-paul-islamic-state-war_n_6212004.html

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Rand Paul Calls for a Formal Declaration of War Against ISIS (Original Post) spanone Nov 2014 OP

Gosh, with the new congress in repub hands... Spazito Nov 2014 #1

You can formally declare a war of limited duration and restricted tactics? alcibiades_mystery Nov 2014 #2

Classic case of Rand's or voting public ignorance or a scrambled brain. gordianot Nov 2014 #3

He seems to have forgotten to include the stipulation Turbineguy Nov 2014 #4

declare war then hog tie the President's hands.....great idea randy. spanone Nov 2014 #5

Dont worry, he may sponsor a bill but would vote against it and it would Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #6

I know it's a quaint notion, but a declaration of war might be appropriate. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2014 #7

Of course this has nothing to really do with ISIS or war declarations Blue_Tires Nov 2014 #9

Does anyone except Fox and FR even take the guy seriously? You'd think Aqua Buddha would be enough OregonBlue Nov 2014 #8

I guess he'll be our libertarian non-interventionist saviour next year. ucrdem Nov 2014 #10

Spazito

(50,339 posts)

1. Gosh, with the new congress in repub hands...

Reply to spanone (Original post)

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 02:53 PM

Nov 2014

it should be a piece of cake for him to get a vote in congress, right, rand?

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)

2. You can formally declare a war of limited duration and restricted tactics?

Reply to spanone (Original post)

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 02:55 PM

Nov 2014

He understands that a whole host of statutes are triggered by a formal war declaration, essentially increasing the Executive's power by orders of magnitude, right?

gordianot

(15,238 posts)

3. Classic case of Rand's or voting public ignorance or a scrambled brain.

Reply to spanone (Original post)

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 03:00 PM

Nov 2014

Congressional over sight was asked for and refused by Congress.

Turbineguy

(37,331 posts)

4. He seems to have forgotten to include the stipulation

Reply to spanone (Original post)

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 03:05 PM

Nov 2014

that ISIS wins.

spanone

(135,833 posts)

5. declare war then hog tie the President's hands.....great idea randy.

Reply to Turbineguy (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 03:14 PM

Nov 2014

he's a 'headline hog' nothing more.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)

6. Dont worry, he may sponsor a bill but would vote against it and it would

Reply to spanone (Original post)

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 03:22 PM

Nov 2014

Probably have earmarks added by Rand, he could say he never voted for spending increases.

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)

7. I know it's a quaint notion, but a declaration of war might be appropriate.

Reply to spanone (Original post)

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 03:23 PM

Nov 2014

I'm not that fond of untrammeled executive power to wage war without congressional approval, whether it's Bush or Obama, and whether Congress actually wants to go on the record or not.