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rsmith6621

(6,942 posts)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 07:29 PM Nov 2014

Hagels Resignation is not about incompatance



It is likely about being INSUBORDINATE. Hagel likely told Obama that the ISIS war was a no win situation.

The administrations desire to keep supporting the industrial war complex severed this relationship.

I think Hagel knew the actual outcome and the Obama administration wished to live in denial.

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Hagels Resignation is not about incompatance (Original Post) rsmith6621 Nov 2014 OP
Spellcheck is your friend. eom MohRokTah Nov 2014 #1
LOL Cali_Democrat Nov 2014 #9
And some punctuation training. longship Nov 2014 #18
Multiple Hagels resigned! MohRokTah Nov 2014 #20
And you know this... how? The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2014 #2
He doesn't, but it fits an ongoing narrative. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2014 #5
A Democratic president fired a Republican. Ykcutnek Nov 2014 #3
Absulotely! nt Xipe Totec Nov 2014 #4
Some say that Hagel is more hawkish than Obama. CJCRANE Nov 2014 #6
Someone had to be let go to satisfy "the gods" after the midterms, and TwilightGardener Nov 2014 #7
No. Obama does not shy away from advice, he invites it LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #8
Just like he urged the Left to "make him" do stuff MannyGoldstein Nov 2014 #13
Spelling errors did Hagel in, as I'm told. nt Dreamer Tatum Nov 2014 #10
I'm still trying to figure out how many Hagels resigned. MohRokTah Nov 2014 #12
I'm still not convinced Hegel didn't resign. Dreamer Tatum Nov 2014 #16
My guess: It has to do with overconfidence about the strategy in Afghanistan and trusting some JDPriestly Nov 2014 #11
Reports say Robbins Nov 2014 #14
Do you have some inside information, rudolph the red Nov 2014 #15
Your thinking process is in denial. Cha Nov 2014 #17
Hagel publicly contradicted Obama re: ISIS. He was gone in that moment. WinkyDink Nov 2014 #19
I thought Hegel died a ling thyme ago... MineralMan Nov 2014 #21
I think it's about standing up to the new GOP congress ucrdem Nov 2014 #22
Wow. I certainly live on Sugar Mountain. tavernier Nov 2014 #23

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
6. Some say that Hagel is more hawkish than Obama.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 07:32 PM
Nov 2014

It doesn't matter anyway. Change won't come until the people stand up en masse and say "no more".

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
7. Someone had to be let go to satisfy "the gods" after the midterms, and
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 07:32 PM
Nov 2014

it wasn't going to be Rice or Kerry, who both rank above Hagel and are Democrats. Obama thinks he will get applause for this move, and he probably will by the Washington Post, but I'm not applauding it. At all. (and no, I don't think it had to do with hawkishness--I think it had to do with politics)

 

LawDeeDah

(1,596 posts)
8. No. Obama does not shy away from advice, he invites it
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 07:33 PM
Nov 2014

and he doesn't fire people over his ego. so I call bullshit.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
13. Just like he urged the Left to "make him" do stuff
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 07:41 PM
Nov 2014

Until the Left tried to make him do stuff, of course.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
11. My guess: It has to do with overconfidence about the strategy in Afghanistan and trusting some
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 07:39 PM
Nov 2014

of the wrong people in Syria. But I'm just guessing.

ISIS should never have happened. Where is it getting its financial support? Why haven't we successfully separated ISIS from its logistics, supply routes?

Who were we dealing with, supporting in Syria?

And why was our strategy in Afghanistan so confused and unsuccessful?

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
14. Reports say
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 07:42 PM
Nov 2014

Hagel Is out because white house felt he wasn't the right person for ongoing war.Hagel was picked to manage drawdown of wars.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
22. I think it's about standing up to the new GOP congress
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:09 PM
Nov 2014

The GOP has been nagging Obama to take out Assad and Rouhani since forever and now with the senate behind them they're nagging even harder.

tavernier

(12,388 posts)
23. Wow. I certainly live on Sugar Mountain.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:24 PM
Nov 2014

I totally believed the scenario that Obama and Hagel presented.

Then suddenly all the news networks told me that both were lying.

Geesh. No wonder I'm confused.

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