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bbernardini

(9,938 posts)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 07:33 PM Nov 2014

If Darren Wilson is not indicted, what do you think the reaction will be in cities across the USA?

I've read that some schools and districts were discussing plans of action in case there were riots if the verdict was announced during the school day. What do you think?

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If Darren Wilson is not indicted, what do you think the reaction will be in cities across the USA? (Original Post) bbernardini Nov 2014 OP
Don't know but whatever it is, it won't be over in 48 hours. Xipe Totec Nov 2014 #1
I predict a media dud. I think protesters and citizens will react peacefully and the media ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #2
I think there will be many peaceful protest demonstrations. upaloopa Nov 2014 #3
People have had time to think about this and I suspect they realize that a peaceful protest will be jwirr Nov 2014 #4
Similar to when Zimmerman was acquitted (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #5
Zimmerman wasn't a cop. Zimmerman went to trial. n/t Joe Magarac Nov 2014 #26
in LA olddots Nov 2014 #6
This JohLast Nov 2014 #11
Nationwide peaceful (mostly) protests. Police will arrive in riot gear, some people will use it as uppityperson Nov 2014 #7
This... tenderfoot Nov 2014 #38
Mass protests no doubt. And rightfully so. JaneyVee Nov 2014 #8
Define, "Mass" ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #18
National. JaneyVee Nov 2014 #22
Actually, we've had a couple of protests already Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #58
Sometimes... murray hill farm Nov 2014 #9
Sadness and isolated acts of vandalism (a few broken windows, maybe a cop car smashed)... devils chaplain Nov 2014 #10
In most cities, little to nothing in the way of violence. Throd Nov 2014 #12
It looks like the change in announcement time is providing the clues R B Garr Nov 2014 #13
Alternatively, they are giving the media time to coordinate ManiacJoe Nov 2014 #39
at 8Pm central? robinlynne Nov 2014 #40
That would be 9pm Eastern, 6pm Western. ManiacJoe Nov 2014 #42
Okay. But why alternatively? It could even be simultaneously. R B Garr Nov 2014 #45
Most People Realize There Won't Be Indictment SoCalMusicLover Nov 2014 #14
Just like Rodney King! Get your guns white people! PAProgressive28 Nov 2014 #15
In Ferguson ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #16
+1 and a big old Snorty laugh JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #24
I have no idea but George Carlin nailed it 7 years ago Va Lefty Nov 2014 #17
Cops will know they have free reign to murder any black American with impunity. MohRokTah Nov 2014 #19
I think many town/cities will have demonstrations over the next few weeks. oldandhappy Nov 2014 #20
I think you're right. Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #59
Probably some violence followed by denial that there is violence. maced666 Nov 2014 #21
I hope it's peaceful. bigwillq Nov 2014 #23
People in other cities will probably be upset and feel robbed of justice again. dilby Nov 2014 #25
You really want to see shit burn. Throd Nov 2014 #29
It's a rush for some people to see it and they won't be hurt, I guess. freshwest Nov 2014 #52
What would that accomplish? bigwillq Nov 2014 #33
It would not accomplish anything. ManiacJoe Nov 2014 #41
"collectively stupid"..? Really? R B Garr Nov 2014 #46
Yes, it accounts for all groups, cops and protesters a like. ManiacJoe Nov 2014 #49
Okay, but maybe it's not about trashing anything for the Ferguson citizens, R B Garr Nov 2014 #56
peaceful protest too wimpy for ya? elehhhhna Nov 2014 #34
What is wrong with you? 840high Nov 2014 #44
We may find out. It is useless to speculate. nt longship Nov 2014 #27
Outside of Ferguson.....a big bunch of nothing. nt Captain Stern Nov 2014 #28
Widespread small peaceful demonstrations in cities. Nt hack89 Nov 2014 #30
my gut feeling,, explosion... ppl have had it up to here^^^ juxtaposed Nov 2014 #31
I don't think anyone will care outside of the immediate area. PeteSelman Nov 2014 #32
Isn't there football on Monday nights? Mika Nov 2014 #35
Black Friday stories will permeate the news more than Ferguson, branford Nov 2014 #36
meh GeorgeGist Nov 2014 #37
The question is how will the police react to a peaceful protest. hobbit709 Nov 2014 #43
If there's a hassle the cops will start it.They always do. easychoice Nov 2014 #50
Nothing... Blue_Tires Nov 2014 #47
That's pretty much my assessment too. It will fade, Wilson will move on and given a bit of RKP5637 Nov 2014 #53
I was already a hardline cynic... Blue_Tires Nov 2014 #55
Indifference. (nt) Inkfreak Nov 2014 #48
I expect cops to bust heads of innocent peaceful protesters in Ferguson. MohRokTah Nov 2014 #51
Hundreds of thousands will peacefully protest SomethingFishy Nov 2014 #54
Nobody is expecting an indictment. Just more protests. gollygee Nov 2014 #57

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
1. Don't know but whatever it is, it won't be over in 48 hours.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 07:36 PM
Nov 2014

So unless those cops are ready to stay for the long haul, this little show of force will only demonstrate what little they can do.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
2. I predict a media dud. I think protesters and citizens will react peacefully and the media
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 07:37 PM
Nov 2014

and cops will not get what they want, which is a good ole Colliseum bread and circus event.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
3. I think there will be many peaceful protest demonstrations.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 07:38 PM
Nov 2014

But they will last for months. That way the need for change will be more evident. The contrast of police in riot gear and peaceful protests could speak volumes.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
4. People have had time to think about this and I suspect they realize that a peaceful protest will be
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 07:40 PM
Nov 2014

the way to go. The nation and world are with them right now. Peaceful protesting will keep them.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
7. Nationwide peaceful (mostly) protests. Police will arrive in riot gear, some people will use it as
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 07:41 PM
Nov 2014

an excuse to act badly giving those police a reason to act poorly.

But the majority will be peaceful protestors.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
18. Define, "Mass" ...
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 07:50 PM
Nov 2014

I doubt there will be any/more than a few gatherings to protest anywhere outside of Ferguson.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
58. Actually, we've had a couple of protests already
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:04 PM
Nov 2014

here in Central California. If there's no indictment I imagine the turnout will swell. No violence but definitely protests.

murray hill farm

(3,650 posts)
9. Sometimes...
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 07:43 PM
Nov 2014

It is just the time to get extremely pissed..and to react with great anger...no matter how much you love peace. This is one of those times.

devils chaplain

(602 posts)
10. Sadness and isolated acts of vandalism (a few broken windows, maybe a cop car smashed)...
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 07:43 PM
Nov 2014

... and generally peaceful protests. Not the fireworks the media is hoping for.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
13. It looks like the change in announcement time is providing the clues
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 07:46 PM
Nov 2014

that they are giving other law enforcement agencies time to prepare for unrest. I hope that's not the case, but nothing from Ferguson officials seems aboveboard.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
39. Alternatively, they are giving the media time to coordinate
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 08:39 PM
Nov 2014

a nation-wide broadcast similar to the way all other nation-wide broadcasts get coordinated.


R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
45. Okay. But why alternatively? It could even be simultaneously.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:04 PM
Nov 2014

There was a change in announcement time for a reason -- or two -- and the media runs 24 hours nowadays...

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
14. Most People Realize There Won't Be Indictment
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 07:47 PM
Nov 2014

I don't think this announcement will come as a big surprise to anyone.

Probably more of the same, protests in Ferguson & St. Louis, but this will all blow over soon enough, and the media will wait for the next shooting to cover. Should only be a few days or hours to wait for that.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
16. In Ferguson ...
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 07:47 PM
Nov 2014

there will likely be peaceful protests and law enforcement will be hyper-reactive to the very few that act out and the media will focus on this, rather than, the peaceful protests.

Outside of Ferguson ... crickets ... except for internet rants, typed from the comfort of America's living rooms ... during the commercial breaks.

In Communities of Color ... this will serve as a re-affirmation that justice evades us.

JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
24. +1 and a big old Snorty laugh
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 08:05 PM
Nov 2014

I read - did not post to - cities across Ameeica are bracing for the worst.



What a monumental waste of money and resources.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
19. Cops will know they have free reign to murder any black American with impunity.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 07:51 PM
Nov 2014

Cops will not be held accountable for murdering black people.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
20. I think many town/cities will have demonstrations over the next few weeks.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 07:53 PM
Nov 2014

Ferguson will not go away. The police dept there has ruined the reputation of the place. Remember the Watts riots??!!
Remember Rodney King??!! This stuff does not go away.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
59. I think you're right.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:10 PM
Nov 2014

If there is no indictment, it will act as a flash point and proof of a corrupt, racist system. If there is no indictment, this will NOT be going away.

 

maced666

(771 posts)
21. Probably some violence followed by denial that there is violence.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 07:53 PM
Nov 2014

Followed by pictures/video proving there IS violence followed by blaming the (which may be the case) cops. Recipe that has been done over and over and over and over. Not hard to predict.

dilby

(2,273 posts)
25. People in other cities will probably be upset and feel robbed of justice again.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 08:08 PM
Nov 2014

People in Ferguson will lose it and hopefully light a fire so big it can be seen by the International Space Station.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
52. It's a rush for some people to see it and they won't be hurt, I guess.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:39 PM
Nov 2014

People that have suffered loss of life in their families want peace and justice. Like H2O man. He's lost several family members to violence and has not called for Armageddon yet. That is what I think the people of Ferguson don't want to have happen, as they will just be hurt more than they already are.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
41. It would not accomplish anything.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 08:51 PM
Nov 2014

But that was not the original question.

When large groups of people get together, the collective IQ tends to be cut in half.

Why do folks riot and destroy their own neighborhoods? Because they are collectively stupid.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
46. "collectively stupid"..? Really?
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:07 PM
Nov 2014

Does your stupidity theory count for the large groups of police getting together, as well? Or just the stupid crowds?

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
49. Yes, it accounts for all groups, cops and protesters a like.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:13 PM
Nov 2014

Yes, the rioters trashing their own neighborhoods are stupid. If they were smart they would be trashing someone else's neighborhood, preferably the neighborhood of the folks they are supposedly rioting against.

The advantage the cops have is a strong chain of command that slows down the flow of stupidity. Unfortunately for the rest of us, that does not stop the flow of stupidity, just slows the flow.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
56. Okay, but maybe it's not about trashing anything for the Ferguson citizens,
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:58 PM
Nov 2014

but about getting justice which will elude them again if there is no indictment. I see what you're saying in a clinical sense, but for the cops in this case, it's now a full-scale CYA operation which takes away their credibility.

Hopefully there won't be rioting anyway. I was thinking there might be some unrest with the main theme being justice denied, not trashing someone else's neighborhood just for spite. I see what you're saying about crowds in general, though, but the police in this case mishandled just about everything, which is an understatement at this point.

PeteSelman

(1,508 posts)
32. I don't think anyone will care outside of the immediate area.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 08:19 PM
Nov 2014

There might be some small gatherings here and there but in general there will be no reaction at all.

 

branford

(4,462 posts)
36. Black Friday stories will permeate the news more than Ferguson,
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 08:28 PM
Nov 2014

and except for a few incidents and some sporadic protests, maybe through the weekend, but probably ending by Thanksgiving, the press will move onto another shiny object by next Monday.

The only way the story continues in any meaningful way into December is if there is significant violence. If so, the story will be about violent protesters, not racial disparities in the criminal justice system, and the protests will have the opposite effect than intended, and without popular support.

We have very short attention spans.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
47. Nothing...
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:12 PM
Nov 2014

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Yeah, we'll bitch, complain, blog, and voice our discontent, the talking heads on the cable news will kick the story back and forth until Wednesday, when it will get swept off the front pages by Turkey Day, the Cowboys, the 49ers and Black Friday...Wilson will do his media rounds and then vanish without a trace to live out his life in comfortable (and likely paranoid) solitude ala Zimmerman...

Then everyone will be talking about Christmas shopping/travel, the College Bowl games, the new congress being sworn in and the public will by-and-large forget about the whole thing and it will be forgotten about until the next one of us gets gunned down by a cop or neighborhood vigilante, and the whole cycle will begin anew...

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
53. That's pretty much my assessment too. It will fade, Wilson will move on and given a bit of
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:41 PM
Nov 2014

time it will be forgotten until as you say, "the whole cycle will begin anew..." There are just too many other diversions going on.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
55. I was already a hardline cynic...
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:44 PM
Nov 2014

but the Zimmerman case (and the thousands of arguments I had on DU over it) pushed my cynicism into another universe...

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
51. I expect cops to bust heads of innocent peaceful protesters in Ferguson.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:27 PM
Nov 2014

Maybe even kill another unarmed black kid or two.

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
54. Hundreds of thousands will peacefully protest
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:43 PM
Nov 2014

but on the news you will see the three looters over and over and over...

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
57. Nobody is expecting an indictment. Just more protests.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:00 PM
Nov 2014

If people thought he would be indicted, they wouldn't be protesting. They're protesting because they know there will be no justice.

The few people who get out of hand will get all the press. The many who continue to peacefully protest will be mistreated by law enforcement. I hope they stay safe.

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