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Eugene

(61,945 posts) Wed Nov 26, 2014, 08:13 PM Nov 2014

Cleveland video shows police shot boy within seconds

Source: Reuters

Cleveland video shows police shot boy within seconds

BY KIM PALMER
CLEVELAND Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:37pm EST

(Reuters) - Cleveland officials on Wednesday released a video of the fatal police shooting of a 12-year-old boy that shows him pointing a pellet gun around a park before police arrive and shoot him within two seconds.

Tamir E. Rice was shot by a patrol officer on Saturday after a 911 call reported someone pointing a gun at people at the Cudell Recreation Center. The caller said the gun could be a fake.

The video shows the boy walking and pointing the gun in different directions before entering a gazebo.

A patrol car with two officers pulls up to the gazebo. The first to get out, identified by a city official as Timothy Loehmann, 26, shoots almost immediately.

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Cleveland video shows police shot boy within seconds (Original Post) Eugene Nov 2014 OP

They screwed the pooch on this one, killed a kid dead. NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #1

What video did you see that on? Nothing like that on this one. uppityperson Nov 2014 #2

Here is a different POV and video, with audio laid over. NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #4

That shows before he was shot, and stops as the cops get there. Looks like a kid playing around and uppityperson Nov 2014 #7

Agree, looks like a kid being a kid. The dude who called it in sounded kinda old. NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #8

How does anybody, especially a trained cop, mistake this child for a 20 yo.? GGJohn Nov 2014 #3

More training , yes I agree but they need to held accountable for their actions helpmetohelpyou Nov 2014 #6

Picture of Timothy Loehmann. GGJohn Nov 2014 #5

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)

1. They screwed the pooch on this one, killed a kid dead.

Reply to Eugene (Original post)

Wed Nov 26, 2014, 08:51 PM

Nov 2014

The video shows that the kid was, indeed, pointing the fake pistol at passersby.

And when the car drives up on the kid under the gazebo, the kid lifts his shirt or sweatshirt to reveal the gun.

Then the cop shoots him, saying that he thinks the kid is about 20 years old, holding a black revolver.

We need more training.

uppityperson

(115,679 posts)

2. What video did you see that on? Nothing like that on this one.

Reply to NYC_SKP (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 26, 2014, 08:57 PM

Nov 2014

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)

4. Here is a different POV and video, with audio laid over.

Reply to uppityperson (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 26, 2014, 09:04 PM

Nov 2014

The audio is not in sync with the video, and it's not the entire video.

I guess there are two videos out there, or more.

You'll see what looks like a pedestrian (obscured) walking by as the toy gun is drawn.

uppityperson

(115,679 posts)

7. That shows before he was shot, and stops as the cops get there. Looks like a kid playing around and

Reply to NYC_SKP (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 26, 2014, 10:15 PM

Nov 2014

how it stops when the police arrive and shoot him, it makes it look like time has passed. Thanks for the vid link. In real time there was no time to lift his shirt or do what he was told to do, or even time to tell him 3 times to show his hands.

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)

8. Agree, looks like a kid being a kid. The dude who called it in sounded kinda old.

Reply to uppityperson (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 26, 2014, 10:21 PM

Nov 2014

This crap about calling in anything related to a gun is a bit nutty.

I know he said it might be fake but really, these calls didn't happen back when, IMO, even more little kids were out playing with toy guns in public, like when I was a kid.

What have we become?