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Faryn Balyncd

(5,125 posts)
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 06:27 AM Nov 2014

American Conservative: "Two Seconds. How long it took to kill Tamir Rice." (VIDEO)








Two Seconds









"....Watch the video. Again, there is no audio, but how on earth can anybody order someone to raise his hands three times in two seconds? That’s how long it took from the time the police car stopped until Rice was lying on the ground, mortally wounded.

What you see is not always what you get, so we need to wait for the investigation. But this looks very, very bad for the Cleveland police. From the look of things on this video, that kid barely had time to react to the sudden appearance of a police car before he was on the ground with one or more bullets inside of him....

....there is virtually no time at all between the police car stopping and the officer shooting Tamir Rice. It’s hard to see what Rice was doing with his hands when the car stopped; maybe the police feared that he was about to shoot them. Still … two seconds? Really? This looks very, very wrong to me. In fact, this looks outrageous. I don’t blame people one bit for protesting this.

The cop’s last name is Loehmann. A pretty safe bet he’s white."




http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/two-seconds-tamir-rice/
















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American Conservative: "Two Seconds. How long it took to kill Tamir Rice." (VIDEO) (Original Post) Faryn Balyncd Nov 2014 OP
Seven Reasons Police Brutality Is Systemic, Not Anecdotal Faryn Balyncd Nov 2014 #1
It's one of those things we believe..... daleanime Nov 2014 #3
We have deep systemic problems, covered over by myth. Faryn Balyncd Nov 2014 #4
Amen.... daleanime Nov 2014 #6
The police lied Kalidurga Nov 2014 #2
Wonder if the rookie who jumped out of the car while it was still moving was eager to get his first jwirr Nov 2014 #5
That's what I keep returning to as well. Marr Nov 2014 #7
Exactly. jwirr Nov 2014 #8

Faryn Balyncd

(5,125 posts)
1. Seven Reasons Police Brutality Is Systemic, Not Anecdotal
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 06:59 AM
Nov 2014






Seven Reasons Police Brutality Is Systemic, Not Anecdotal


...the plural of anecdote is not data, and the media is inevitably drawn toward tales of conflict. Despite the increasing frequency with which we hear of misbehaving cops, many Americans maintain a default respect for the man in uniform. As an NYPD assistant chief put it, “We don’t want a few bad apples or a few rogue cops damaging” the police’s good name.

This is an attractive proposal, certainly, but unfortunately it doesn’t hold up to scrutiny.

Here are seven reasons why police misconduct is a systemic problem, not “a few bad apples”:



http://www.theamericanconservative.com/seven-reasons-police-brutality-is-systematic-not-anecdotal/
















Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
2. The police lied
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 07:52 AM
Nov 2014

I actually believed this one might have been a tragic situation of the police making an understandable error in judgement. But, the story was stinky on many levels from the video evidence. One the Tamir Rice does not appear to be anywhere near 20 years old unless you think most 20 year olds are under 5 foot tall. They didn't have time to tell him anything or give him even a second to react. The dispatcher was terrible too and the person who actually took the call she was horrible. The whole damn system is rotten to the core.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
5. Wonder if the rookie who jumped out of the car while it was still moving was eager to get his first
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 10:31 AM
Nov 2014

big arrest/kill? For God's sake that child was in what looked to me like pretty much an empty part of the park. There was not immediate threat that I could see. There was no one else around in the entire video. Who were these "brave heroes" protecting? Whoever is training these cops is NOT doing an adequate job. The breakdown in the system starts with those who are teaching them.

If they are that afraid it is time to get rid of the whole lot and start again.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
7. That's what I keep returning to as well.
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 12:05 PM
Nov 2014

There are much more dangerous jobs that police officer, but the way they talk about it, you'd think it was a war. They're constantly claiming they were 'in fear for their life'.

If you scare that damned easily, you either need to change careers or accept the fact that this role you've chosen involves accepting a degree of risk.

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