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William769

(55,147 posts) Sat Nov 29, 2014, 04:34 PM Nov 2014

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Chalk up another cluster fuck for Florida

Couple files lawsuit after Florida cancels driver’s licenses over name change

ORLANDO, Fla. — Two Central Florida men whose driver’s licenses were cancelled because they changed their names using their out-of-state marriage license, have filed a lawsuit against the state of Florida, seeking to have their legal marriage recognized by the state.

The Orlando Sentinel reports that Daniel Wall-DeSousa, 40, and Scott Wall-DeSousa, 37, filed the lawsuit in U.S. District Court, asking a judge to force the Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles to recognize their marriage.

The couple was married in New York City on Dec. 6, 2013, and a few days later changed their names through the Social Security Administration, each adding the last name of the other, according to the suit.

The couple eventually obtained new Florida driver’s licenses showing their new last names, but the department abruptly cancelled them after they appeared in a local television news report.

http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2014/11/couple-sues-florida-after-state-cancels-drivers-licenses-over-name-change/

I HATE THIS FUCKING STATE!

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Chalk up another cluster fuck for Florida (Original Post) William769 Nov 2014 OP

How can they legally get away with this? Terra Alta Nov 2014 #1

Exactly! William769 Nov 2014 #3

Good move, William. sheshe2 Nov 2014 #7

How did Florida issue Wall a driver's license? csziggy Nov 2014 #2

The Governor & AG are hot after anything to do with Marriage Equality here. William769 Nov 2014 #4

I wish the federal government would take out the entire government of Florida! csziggy Nov 2014 #6

This is why Americans hate the Government yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #9

I certainly do NOT want civilian companies running things csziggy Nov 2014 #10

You shouldn't insult Americans by equating them all to be libertarians. Rex Nov 2014 #15

No legal recourse with a private company though. NutmegYankee Nov 2014 #16

This is ridiculous TexasMommaWithAHat Nov 2014 #5

Daniel shouldn't have to~ sheshe2 Nov 2014 #8

I hope they win their lawsuit and it is the door that lets same sex marriage become legal csziggy Nov 2014 #11

So sorry, William. :( Cha Nov 2014 #12

Florida is a joke anymore and a bad one at that. William769 Nov 2014 #17

You live there? Derek V Nov 2014 #13

Wait...they canceled the licenses because of a news report? TVEE? The shit box? Rex Nov 2014 #14

Terra Alta

(5,158 posts)

1. How can they legally get away with this?

Reply to William769 (Original post)

Sat Nov 29, 2014, 04:41 PM

Nov 2014

Even if they don't recognize their marriage(which is wrong in and of itself) how can they cancel driver's licenses with the mens' new, LEGAL last names on them? Hope they win their lawsuit.

William769

(55,147 posts)

3. Exactly!

Reply to Terra Alta (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 29, 2014, 04:46 PM

Nov 2014

I have my house up for sale. Hopefully I won't be here much longer.

sheshe2

(83,860 posts)

7. Good move, William.

Reply to William769 (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 29, 2014, 06:03 PM

Nov 2014

Leave Florida to the haters.

csziggy

(34,137 posts)

2. How did Florida issue Wall a driver's license?

Reply to William769 (Original post)

Sat Nov 29, 2014, 04:44 PM

Nov 2014

According to the Florida DMV, the name must match his Social Security card:

US Citizens

Florida law requires identification, proof of date of birth, proof of residential address, and proof of social security number (if issued, Chapter 322, Florida Statutes, requires the Department see proof of social security number for the issuance of driver license and identification cards) from all customers before a driver license or identification card can be issued.

The name assigned to the social security number must match the name that will appear on the Florida driver license or identification card. If you have recently changed your name, update your records with the Social Security Administration before you apply for your license or identification card.
http://www.dmvflorida.org/drivers-license-identification.shtml#us

Maybe Wall used an old SS card - but couldn't Florida come after him for that?

I am GLAD they are suing the state. My concern is that the state is claiming certain requirements and apparently is not abiding by their own rules. Originally, I thought that the state should abide by what the Social Security Administration had by accepting the name change for both the Wall-DeSousas. Let them use the name they have chosen! They are not attempting to defraud anyone and the name change MUST be legal since the Social Security Administration accepted it.

Who the fuck does the Florida DMV think it is to dictate a name use for honest citizens?

William769

(55,147 posts)

4. The Governor & AG are hot after anything to do with Marriage Equality here.

Reply to csziggy (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 29, 2014, 04:48 PM

Nov 2014

A federal ruling cannot come soon enough here.

csziggy

(34,137 posts)

6. I wish the federal government would take out the entire government of Florida!

Reply to William769 (Reply #4)

Sat Nov 29, 2014, 05:34 PM

Nov 2014

It's so screwed up and needs to be changed. And the damn people of Florida keep putting these Republican assholes back into office! Ever since Lawton Chiles died in office it's been horrendous here in Tallahassee and the Florida Democratic Party is completely incompetent - or in the pocket of big money.

I say this as a native Floridian who has voted Democratic since 1972.

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)

9. This is why Americans hate the Government

Reply to csziggy (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 29, 2014, 07:02 PM

Nov 2014

And would rather have civilian companies run things. This does not help that reputation at all especially DMV.

csziggy

(34,137 posts)

10. I certainly do NOT want civilian companies running things

Reply to yeoman6987 (Reply #9)

Sat Nov 29, 2014, 07:12 PM

Nov 2014

No matter how much the government agencies interfere, at least we have some say in what they do. We don't have much say if any in how private companies run their operations so I really do not understand why they are considered better than our government!

What I do want is the people in charge to be elected in a transparent way and not gerrymander the voting districts solely to ensure they get re-elected. Which means, of course, getting the asshole Republicans out of office and someone in that will run honest elections.

Rex

(65,616 posts)

15. You shouldn't insult Americans by equating them all to be libertarians.

Reply to yeoman6987 (Reply #9)

Sat Nov 29, 2014, 08:18 PM

Nov 2014

Yes there are some libertarians, but they don't understand how the government works. So of course they hate it.

NutmegYankee

(16,201 posts)

16. No legal recourse with a private company though.

Reply to yeoman6987 (Reply #9)

Sat Nov 29, 2014, 08:22 PM

Nov 2014

Here they can sue and get a judge to shove the law right up their (state of FL) homophobic asses.

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)

5. This is ridiculous

Reply to William769 (Original post)

Sat Nov 29, 2014, 04:50 PM

Nov 2014

I don't see how the state of Florida can get away with that.

sheshe2

(83,860 posts)

8. Daniel shouldn't have to~

Reply to William769 (Original post)

Sat Nov 29, 2014, 06:09 PM

Nov 2014

“I made a decision I would rather give up my driving privileges than my identity.”

I hope they win that damn lawsuit and Florida is made to pay big time, William.

csziggy

(34,137 posts)

11. I hope they win their lawsuit and it is the door that lets same sex marriage become legal

Reply to sheshe2 (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 29, 2014, 07:14 PM

Nov 2014

Because I do NOT want Florida to be the last state that legalizes marriage equality.

Cha

(297,532 posts)

12. So sorry, William. :(

Reply to William769 (Original post)

Sat Nov 29, 2014, 07:53 PM

Nov 2014

William769

(55,147 posts)

17. Florida is a joke anymore and a bad one at that.

Reply to Cha (Reply #12)

Sun Nov 30, 2014, 12:05 PM

Nov 2014

Derek V

(532 posts)

13. You live there?

Reply to William769 (Original post)

Sat Nov 29, 2014, 07:56 PM

Nov 2014

My sympathies.

Rex

(65,616 posts)

14. Wait...they canceled the licenses because of a news report? TVEE? The shit box?

Reply to William769 (Original post)

Sat Nov 29, 2014, 08:13 PM

Nov 2014

What the fuck year is this again? I swear sometimes I get duped and believe it is 2014 and then BAM! Open DU and there it is in GD.

Some states are in overdrive, some in neutral and sadly states like Florida and Texas are stuck in reverse. They should be fired over it imo. Taking orders from the Boob Tube is tantamount to anything an insane cult could come up with. And that is what it is, insane laws to keep people unhappy and depressed. It's like this grudge against the pursuit of happiness.

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