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seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 09:03 AM Dec 2014

Man beaten to death with hammers in St. Louis

http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/30/us/st-louis-man-dead-hammers/

Two juveniles are in custody Sunday, suspected in the death of a man beaten with hammers on a St. Louis street.
The victim, 32-year-old Zemir Begic, suffered injuries to his head, abdomen, face and mouth, according to police.

Investigation revealed the victim was traveling in his vehicle when several juveniles approached his vehicle on foot and began damaging it.
"The victim exited his vehicle and the juveniles began yelling at the victim and striking him with hammers. After the assault, the juveniles fled the scene on foot," read an incident report.

Two suspects were later located and taken into custody, police said. They are 15 and 16.
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Man beaten to death with hammers in St. Louis (Original Post) seveneyes Dec 2014 OP
kick riversedge Dec 2014 #1
They deserve more than a kick lame54 Dec 2014 #2
I really do not riversedge Dec 2014 #4
Less so this last several years than before that. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2014 #6
Really? Can you provide links to those objective measures? MH1 Dec 2014 #7
Here's a starting point for violence. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2014 #9
Crime rates have dropped to 1960's levels afer a 1990 high. Just the way it is. Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #12
I do not understand how people can be so inhumane. uppityperson Dec 2014 #13
Glad I live in the boonies! nt elias49 Dec 2014 #3
Apparently the victim had just recently moved to the U.S. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #5
This is really slow making it to the Greatest Page. Maybe mention "cop" in the headline? MH1 Dec 2014 #8
That's true. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #10
switch the races around and watch how fast it jumps to the top snooper2 Dec 2014 #19
Heartbreaking!! I can't even imagine. jillan Dec 2014 #11
And the Bosnian community kiva Dec 2014 #14
Anyone following this story? TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2014 #15
Because he was Bosnian? madville Dec 2014 #16
Probably the second question TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2014 #17
Family wants hate crime charges. maced666 Dec 2014 #18

riversedge

(70,204 posts)
4. I really do not
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 10:18 AM
Dec 2014

have words for the cruelty and mindlessness that seems so prevalent this last several years.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
6. Less so this last several years than before that.
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 12:13 PM
Dec 2014

There's still a lot wrong with the world, but by most objective measures other than population things are improving.

MH1

(17,600 posts)
7. Really? Can you provide links to those objective measures?
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 12:57 PM
Dec 2014

I believe that some "things" are improving, but I am not sure whether hooliganism is lessening or increasing. Presumably your post is referring to that, so I would appreciate seeing the evidence.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
9. Here's a starting point for violence.
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 12:59 PM
Dec 2014
https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=world+becoming+less+violent

Famine is also becoming rarer, although I couldn't find a link for that in the amount of time I thought it was worth spending, I'm afraid.
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
12. Crime rates have dropped to 1960's levels afer a 1990 high. Just the way it is.
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 01:55 PM
Dec 2014

Murder is the crime the OP is about. 'Hooliganism' is not a specific thing. The word does not mean 'juvenile crime'. Juvenile arrests are at the lowest since the 1980's.
What do you even mean by 'hooliganism'?

MH1

(17,600 posts)
8. This is really slow making it to the Greatest Page. Maybe mention "cop" in the headline?
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 12:58 PM
Dec 2014

"Boys being boys" is evidently somewhat less outrage-inducing.

madville

(7,410 posts)
16. Because he was Bosnian?
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 10:27 PM
Dec 2014

Or because the attackers and the victim were different races? Is being a different nationality grounds by itself for a hate crime charge?

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
17. Probably the second question
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 09:01 AM
Dec 2014

Because he was white and maybe because was was Bosnian. You certainly couldn't tell his ethnicity just by looking at him, although location might have been a giveaway.

So, these guys just walk around with hammers and start banging on any car occupied by a man and woman for fun?

And kill the man when he objects?



 

maced666

(771 posts)
18. Family wants hate crime charges.
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 11:09 AM
Dec 2014

Meanwhile most have this story on snooze. Political nightmare for the Ferguson protest crowd.

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