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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHey, DUers! Your fabulous Friday Afternoon Challenge today: Notorious!
Identify the "notorious" places below. All have been settings for works of literature and/or films, both true and fictional.
and please honor the no cheat" rule, folks...
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justabob
(3,069 posts)1. Amistad slave ship
3. Devil's Island
6. Nuremburg Rally... can't remember the name of the stadium
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Great guesses!
#1 is actually a replica of the Amistad. It is docked in my city's harbor, New Haven, CT...
#6's name is the Zeppelin Stadium.
This is the first time I have had even a clue for ONE of the Friday challenges.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)you know!
justabob
(3,069 posts)Notorious is just a good subject for me. I am not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing, but I kinda study "notorious" things for fun. Well, fun isn't the right word, but I am very interested in the mechanics of tyranny and oppression. Thanks for doing this thread every week, it is always interesting. I have had lots of art history, but I can never get any closer than a vague time period or recollection that I have seen a piece and at one time was tested on its significance, but it was never my best subject.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)But not too far from the truth!
Aerows
(39,961 posts)ellisonz
(27,711 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)But it has that famous Swastika atop the pole that was blown up and shown so many times in documentaries...
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)Either way, this is shaping up as the easiest Friday challenge in history!
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Ball in your court!
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)If #2 is not the Reichstag, is it the Hermitage in Leningrad?
Is #5 Attica Prison in upstate New York?
And #5 wild guess is it the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem?
And with that, I got nothin'
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)And #2 is not the Reichstag. It isn't even in Germany...
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)And with that I've got nada...
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Looks like a famous fire somewhere. A hotel?
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)Impressive!
I know it was a typo. At least I can contribute some humor to the thread since I have no idea LOL!
WhoIsNumberNone
(7,875 posts)I was sure it wasn't Nuremberg.
RZM
(8,556 posts)5 - Shawshank Prison
6 - Nuremberger Sportoplast (or whatever it's called), where 'Triumph of the Will' was filmed
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Armitsead...it was actually docked on the Connecticut River a few summers back with a view of it from my father's balcony.
gateley
(62,683 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)but I always peak in at them because I learn a bunch of things
gateley
(62,683 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)gateley
(62,683 posts)nun -- she looks like the nuns from Italy that ran my grade school. I think the Order was "Sisters of the Sacred Heart of Jesus". They came over from Italy with Mother Cabrini and opened orphanages across the country. She browbeat wealthy Catholics in the different locales to give GENEROUSLY. One of the nuns told my mother she'd be embarrassed when Mother Cabrini would drag them along to go "begging". In Seattle, anyway, they did very well acres and acres of Lake Washington waterfront property and an orphanage so elegant that when I was in Italy I'd keep going to places thinking "why does this look so familiar?" It was because it reminded me of Sacred Heart Villa! Terazzo tile floors, grottos around the property, just beautiful -- except it was brick.
Here's the cozy little chapel -- tricked out in recent years for a wedding
So the pic in your offering might be an old one of of good 'ol Mother Consolotta!
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)gateley
(62,683 posts)crucifix -- that's why!
Now I'm REALLY curious!
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)the events that followed...
gateley
(62,683 posts)and thanks, but your hint was wasted on me.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)gateley
(62,683 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)gateley
(62,683 posts)but I never read "it" (if I'm thinking of the correct thing) so I still don't know what it represents.
I'm hopeless -- you should give up on me!
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)the veiled prisoner is very famous!
gateley
(62,683 posts)WhoIsNumberNone
(7,875 posts)1 looks like the interior of a slave ship- I'm guessing the Amastad
6 looks like the 1936 Berlin Olympics. It's definitely not a Nuremberg rally.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)Where Butch and Sundance were reportedly shot..
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)but I like your suggestion better!
IcyPeas
(21,910 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)IcyPeas
(21,910 posts)looks like it could be a fleur de lis pattern? so I am thinking France?
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)ellisonz
(27,711 posts)...maybe the Notre Dame?
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)1monster
(11,012 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)1monster
(11,012 posts)wall paper job:
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)gateley
(62,683 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)This was a very big event at the time. An outrage. And very sad, indeed. So many progressives were outraged...
steve2470
(37,457 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Thanks for being good, steve! I appreciate it!
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)altho the actual history is pretty awful...
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)After long and fruitless waiting I have determined to write to you myself, as much for your sake as for mine, as I would not like to think that I had passed through two long years of imprisonment without ever having received a single line from you, or any news or message even, except such as gave me pain ...
gateley
(62,683 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)left of the building...that said to me "Britain" when I was looking around for a good image for Reading...
How did you put this together...
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)...on the other hand, it's a lot of fun, and I look forward to it every Friday.
Looking at it, I figured it was either a prison or a factory with the wall. Because of the other pictures and the OP title, I decided it was a prison instead of a factory.
The red brick dated it to mid- to late-Victorian times, although not necessarily England, I thought; a lot of countries on the Continent built with red brick as well.
The ruin at the left side made me think of England, although possibly Germany as well, the way both countries like to leave historic ruins out where people can see them.
So then I've gotten it down to a prison in England. Here I was stumped for a bit. There are lots of famous prisons in England, so I googled a lot of them (I know you say no googling, but there comes a point where I have to check my work) by name -- the Maze, Newgate, Pentonville -- to see if they looked like this photo. Nope. Then I started wondering if this might be in Northern Ireland or Scotland, and checked some of those as well.
Then you gave the hint about "literary history," which is what broke it for me. In college, I took several courses in British literature (when I thought I would be an English major) but none, shockingly, in Victorian literature, so that is spotty for me. I googled (sorry, again) "prison literature" and bam, there it was: "Oscar Wilde wrote the philosophical essay 'De Profundis' while in Reading Gaol on charges of 'unnatural acts' and 'gross indecency' with other men."
I do know Oscar Wilde, but always think of him as Edwardian, which is obviously wrong, and so I felt silly when I looked back and couldn't come up with a Victorian writer who might be in prison. It seemed very obvious when I figured it out. BUT I had a great time on the trail. Thanks again for a lot of fun.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)that really is finding the location of the image and then googling that. I just ask folks not to do that and then "guess" at the answer. Some people like to do it just to know the answer, but they are good and refrain from pretending to guess on the Challenge. Of course, I can't stop anyone from doing it anyway, but I find most DUers on my Challenges to be really honorable. I think it's more fun doing what you did. Getting one clue, then another and another...that's not cheating, it's research!
And besides, I can't stump DUers anyway. Ya'll are way too smart...
gateley
(62,683 posts)justabob
(3,069 posts)6 was a Nuremburg rally
on edit.... got mixed up on my numbers
gateley
(62,683 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)The literary reference is to Oscar Wilde's De Profundis, his letter written (but never sent) to Lord Alfred Douglas during Wilde's imprisonment on indecency charges.
Credit for the solve goes to Brickbat on this one.
gateley
(62,683 posts)countryjake
(8,554 posts)right before she lost her head?
It's got to be either her or Lady Jane Grey, before she lost HER head! I don't believe that they had rooms quite like that in the Tower of London, so I'm going with Mary.
gateley
(62,683 posts)on the right track, I think. I was looking for something about a nun!
justabob
(3,069 posts)Marie Antionette maybe? Totally grasping at straws now. I love these threads.
gateley
(62,683 posts)justabob
(3,069 posts)These last two are killing me though.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)The Concierge.
justabob
(3,069 posts)Today is my lucky day.
countryjake
(8,554 posts)and I was thinking the Bastille, rather than the Conciergerie.
Damn! I can never get any of these right.
justabob
(3,069 posts)I guessed... you actually know stuff You had the scenario mostly right.... queen awaiting beheading.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)during the overthrowing of Allende?
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)While I was active politically back then I had totally forgotten about the bombing of La Moneda. Had you remembered or did something in the photo give it away?
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)The sign with the E and a slash through it made me think it was in a Spanish-speaking country. ("Parking" in Spanish is something like estacionamiento, so the E with a slash means "no parking."
Also, you said that most DUers were alive at the time, which put it in the 60s or 70s, but I really had no idea what this was, which probably ruled out the 80s or the 90s.
I did a little poking around in the history of Spain and I couldn't find an event that seemed right. Also, somehow it looked more like South America than Central America, which ruled out a lot of civil unrest.
You also said that it was an event that a lot of progressives were very upset by, and the big thing that came to my mind was the ouster of Allende.
I looked it up, and sure enough that was it.
So there was some logic and some guesswork.
I'm so happy to have gotten one right!
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)I honestly had forgotten that Allende committed suicide in that building til I read about it the NYT Magazine a few weeks ago. That's how I got the idea for a "Notorious" thread.
Also, I have a lot of time on my hands as a retiree
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)Baader-Meinhof Gang bombing?
1968 Czechoslovakian uprising?
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)#2 is indeed la moneda during the overthrow of Allende (perhaps taken while he was committing suicide, alas).
#4 is Marie Antoinette in the Palais de Justice and #5 is Reading Gaol.
Hope you all had fun with this!
No Challenge next week as I will be out of town. But I'll be back in 2 weeks with another puzzler that I hope you will find "interesting."
Till then, folks, and thanks for playing!
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)We'll miss you next week, but I guess we could all just sit around and waterboard each other until your return...
Have a good trip and hurry back, CTyankee!
Phentex
(16,334 posts)VERY GOOD!
Thanks!
blaze
(6,374 posts)I usually just lurk in this weekly fun. I rarely have a clue, but the pics, guesses, hints and info provided keep me coming back week after week!
Safe travels!
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Also, when I do the art, I love the conversations we have. People share their experiences with a work of art I am showing and I just love reading them! Plus, I learn a lot too.
And, DUers are amazingly smart...
these are such great threads. thanks, once again.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Although I got none of them right, it was fun watching people provide clues and then solving them.
IcyPeas
(21,910 posts)I have grown to like it in an eerie sort of way. so the wallpaper is French after all. LOL
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)re-enactments of people awaiting trials and the guillotine in their cells. It was kind of eerie, as you say. This photo reminds me of them. That wallpaper gives me the creeps...