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malaise

(269,172 posts)
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 10:58 PM Dec 2014

The world of cricket celebrates one of our own

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=11969654
as 5,000 people show up to say farewel to Philli Hughes. Poor kid would have been 26 two days ago. It's a truly sad day.
Last night Hugh Jackman left a cricket bat outside the Broadway theater.
There's a little bat on Google today as well.
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The world of cricket celebrates one of our own (Original Post) malaise Dec 2014 OP
I have made four good faith attempts to understand the game of cricket jberryhill Dec 2014 #1
It's much easier than you think malaise Dec 2014 #2
As you might imagine jberryhill Dec 2014 #3
It's the most beautiful game in the world for me malaise Dec 2014 #4
It's kind of fun to watch and wonder jberryhill Dec 2014 #5
LOL malaise Dec 2014 #6
Have you ever heard of Kabaddi? Recursion Dec 2014 #9
Holy... jberryhill Dec 2014 #12
Put them on ice and give them sticks and it's the most popular sport in Canada... Recursion Dec 2014 #13
Well, I spent a while going "where's the ball?" jberryhill Dec 2014 #16
Roughly. What Youtube may not make clear is that you have to run in one breath Recursion Dec 2014 #18
And they dance a chorus line to keep the rhythm? jberryhill Dec 2014 #20
I think that's more for morale Recursion Dec 2014 #22
Bwah Recursion Dec 2014 #8
It's true - it's a game most like life malaise Dec 2014 #10
When Tendulkar retired here Mumbai basically shut down for the last match Recursion Dec 2014 #15
Well they invented a series with our team malaise Dec 2014 #25
Here's my 10-sentence explanation (only works if you know baseball) Recursion Dec 2014 #7
ROFL malaise Dec 2014 #11
Yeah, that sounds vaguely like what I've been led to believe jberryhill Dec 2014 #14
Yes. The batter advances at his discretion (only) after any hit Recursion Dec 2014 #17
How is the runner out or safe? jberryhill Dec 2014 #19
The target is the wicket, not the runner Recursion Dec 2014 #21
Jolly Good! burrowowl Dec 2014 #24
I saw that Hughes was injured and had to have an operation on the news, akbacchus_BC Dec 2014 #23
This is actually the lead story on BBC International malaise Dec 2014 #26
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
1. I have made four good faith attempts to understand the game of cricket
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 11:09 PM
Dec 2014

I have had it explained to me by an Indian, a trio consisting of two Englishman and a South African, and a Caymanian, and I attempted to watch a championship game, or test, or whatever they call it, and read Wikipedia at the same time.

I may try again someday, but every attempt has left me utterly and hopelessly lost about the objectives, order of play, and scoring.

The bowler aims toward the crease, a central part of the pitch, to attempt to hit the wicket which is guarded by a batsman. An unreasonably large field surrounds them all and nothing seems to be out of bounds. Upon the occurrence of mysterious events unknown, I believe two alternating batsmen attempt to capture the Penguin and free Gotham City in a sequence of overs. A game, match, test, or whatever the contest is called, can theoretically proceed for days, and the most exciting games are apparently the longest ones in which nothing much actually happens, punctuated by breaks for tea.

Oh, and the "score" at any time is an incomprehensible string of numbers from which I cannot ascertain who is winning the game, if indeed there is some sort of "winnning" involved.

I hope someday I do manage to figure it out.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
3. As you might imagine
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 11:51 PM
Dec 2014

I've heard that before.

I think the main stumbling block is trying to analogize to baseball, or attempting to read Portuguese aloud if one knows Spanish. It "looks" kinda the same, but it really isn't.

Netball? No problem. It's like "Ultimate" with a basket. Two minutes and I was set.

I think I've got the main points of rugby nailed down, but cricket is like watching some avant garde pantomime depicting the place of humankind in the universe or something.

malaise

(269,172 posts)
4. It's the most beautiful game in the world for me
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 12:01 AM
Dec 2014

The Australian captain, Michael Clarke (aka Pup) has me bawling like a baby - what a beautiful tribute.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
5. It's kind of fun to watch and wonder
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 12:13 AM
Dec 2014

Honestly, I spent about five hours one day doing nothing else but watching a tournament game of some importance one evening. Part of the fun was the random sequence of events, and the things the announcers would get excited about. No idea who was winning.

I did learn how to play Ludi one fine evening...

https://twitter.com/Berryhillj/status/490644669219749889

But if you are itching to teach me something - teach me how to make that stuff with what seems to be scotch bonnets, onions, and something orange in vinegar that is in the mason jars. Does it have a name and do you have to let that sit around for a long time?

malaise

(269,172 posts)
6. LOL
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 12:18 AM
Dec 2014

That's the escovich sauce for the fish. Love it.
Lovely finish with Elton John - Don't Let the Sun go down on me

Actually the cricket world cup is coming up and that will be a great time for you to learn.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
9. Have you ever heard of Kabaddi?
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 12:30 AM
Dec 2014
http://www.kabaddi.org/

We had a very politically incorrect name for it growing up ("smear the *****&quot . It's a pro sport in India, nearly as popular as cricket or field hockey.
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
12. Holy...
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 12:52 AM
Dec 2014

I watched some youtube videos on that.

The officials, assuming the gentlemen in sweaters are not one of the teams, should get those guys to stop doing whatever it is they keep fighting about and encourage them to play a game of some kind.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
13. Put them on ice and give them sticks and it's the most popular sport in Canada...
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 12:54 AM
Dec 2014

Actually I understand there's some kind of "puck" used in regulation hockey, but I've only ever noticed dudes slamming each other into plexiglass walls at 40mph.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
18. Roughly. What Youtube may not make clear is that you have to run in one breath
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 12:58 AM
Dec 2014

That is, you have to get to the other team's end zone and back without inhaling. To prove you're not inhaling, you have to constantly say "Kabaddi kabaddi kabaddi..." and if you stop saying it the umpire calls you out.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
20. And they dance a chorus line to keep the rhythm?
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 01:01 AM
Dec 2014

What are the other four guys doing? And under what conditions does one peel off and try to tackle the runner?

And whatever happened to the Wide World of Sports, eh?

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
22. I think that's more for morale
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 01:04 AM
Dec 2014

This developed out of IIRC a kind of south Indian martial art.

And under what conditions does one peel off and try to tackle the runner?

I think that's a tactical/strategic decision the team plans out beforehand. The teams take turns being offense/defense.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
8. Bwah
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 12:28 AM
Dec 2014
but cricket is like watching some avant garde pantomime depicting the place of humankind in the universe or something.



I love it

malaise

(269,172 posts)
10. It's true - it's a game most like life
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 12:31 AM
Dec 2014

What other game would make an entire country town shut down to mourn one of their own. I mean people put up notices in shops that they would be closed as staff would be lining the street for the funeral procession.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
15. When Tendulkar retired here Mumbai basically shut down for the last match
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 12:55 AM
Dec 2014

And that was just a retirement

malaise

(269,172 posts)
25. Well they invented a series with our team
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 06:48 AM
Dec 2014

just to make him reach 200 test matches. That was real Tendy madness.
Still he was a classy batsman - lovely to watch.
American Mike Marqusee moved to England during the Vietnam war and fell in love with the game. He wrote several books on cricket including my favorite - Anyone But England.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
7. Here's my 10-sentence explanation (only works if you know baseball)
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 12:24 AM
Dec 2014

1. Take baseball.

2. Remove 1st and 3rd base.

3. Start with a runner on 2nd. There will always be a runner on 2nd.

4. Change the theoretical strike zone for a physical wicket.

5. Remove all foul territory.

6. Remove the force to run on a hit (the batter and runner advance at their discretion).

7. A batter continues to bat until he is out, even if he advances bases.

8. The half-inning continues until 8 of the batters are out. There is only one inning.

9. An RBI is worth 2 points; a home run is worth 6.

10. Put in a time limit (in some matches, at least) and require that the visiting team put out the entire home team even if they are ahead in that time.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
14. Yeah, that sounds vaguely like what I've been led to believe
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 12:55 AM
Dec 2014

Does the guy with the cheese board have to hit the ball in order for anyone to run?
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
19. How is the runner out or safe?
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 12:59 AM
Dec 2014

It doesn't seem like they are sliding in to beat the tag.

And I gather that a caught batted ball is also an out?

And also if the ball knocks the thingie off the wicket?

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
21. The target is the wicket, not the runner
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 01:02 AM
Dec 2014

OK, fair enough, that's another difference. You put a runner out by hitting the wicket with the ball when he is outside of the "batter's box".

It doesn't seem like they are sliding in to beat the tag.

Depends. They'll often dive to beat a throw. And they run with their bats, which counts as part of "them", so they just have to touch their bat to safe territory.

And I gather that a caught batted ball is also an out?

Yes

And also if the ball knocks the thingie off the wicket?

Well, generally, but there are some rules about what we would call "foul tips" in baseball. There's also a rule about blocking the wicket with your body, but these things approach "infield fly rule" levels of complexity that casual fans don't usually understand.

akbacchus_BC

(5,704 posts)
23. I saw that Hughes was injured and had to have an operation on the news,
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 01:07 AM
Dec 2014

I really hoped he would pull through. Sorry to hear he has passed.

I love cricket, when they introduced the 50 overs, that was great but when they introduced the 20 overs, I thought cricket had reached a new and exciting level. I loved the 20 overs.

We don't get to see cricket here in BC.

My condolences to Mr. Hughes family, friends and fans.

malaise

(269,172 posts)
26. This is actually the lead story on BBC International
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 06:52 AM
Dec 2014

I think most of us knew he was never going to make it when he needed CPR on the pitch. The ball hit his neck and shattered an artery. Truth be told I suspect that he was brain dead on impact. That was one freak accident, but I suspect there will be new standards required for helmets.

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