his back against a tree. oh remember the woman and the cute little chimpanzee

Second, the dog is a service dog, so he has been trained to do this since he was a puppy...this dog would not attack...never....take your misplaced rage elsewhere.

Were I afraid of dogs, I'd attempt to rationalize it too.

Chimps kept as house pets are still not domesticated animals.

"Neither are Pit Bulls."

Editorial or objective fact? If the latter, what is the peer-reviewed source? If the former, how... adorable you are.

Right - ZERO.

Now you should apologize for being such a fool.

goes right next to "it is unsinkable".

You can join the millions of people who thought that way, right up to the point that they were contradicted by reality.

and selected for their very special purpose.

ASDA dogs must possess a particular temperament, intelligence, health, age and weight, and are raised from puppy-hood in our extensive training program for their important job.

We require the primary caregiver to train with us at ASDA headquarters so that they can learn to handle their service dog, become an ADA certified handler, and begin initial bonding. Phase two takes place with our trainer, but in the environment that the dog will actually live and work in. Both phases are essential for long-term success.

And it is the law -- By federal law (Americans with Disabilities Act, or ADA) a service dog is allowed access to any environment your child with autism is allowed access: schools, parks, doctor’s offices, restaurants, beaches, movie theaters, etc. And while the service dog may go out on occasion without the child, the child does not go anywhere without his or her service dog. Time together solidifies the relationship, keeps skills sharp, and helps the child grow in life skills—time together is not only permissible, but necessary.

http://autismservicedogsofamerica.com/faqs/

Do a quick google search and you would see that service dogs can (and do) bite people.

AND The ADA allows people to prohibit service dogs under a wide variety of conditions. The assertion that an animal can go anywhere a child can go is incorrect.

"There may be a few circumstances when a public accommodation is not required to accommodate a service animal--that is, when doing so would result in a fundamental alteration to the nature of the business"
http://www.ada.gov/archive/animal.htm

Links?

is based on the general rule ADA for accommodations. It predates the specific regulations implementing the ADA with respect to service animals.

Even so, the example given is consistent with the regulations I quoted to you: Generally, this is not likely to occur in restaurants, hotels, retail stores, theaters, concert halls, and sports facilities. But when it does, for example, when a dog barks during a movie, the animal can be excluded.

In other words there are a few rare exceptions, not "a wide variety of conditions." Specifically two exceptions, and the example falls within the exception that the "animal is out of control and the animal´s handler does not take effective action to control it."

As for links, I gave you the citation to the regulation which I quoted. Let me google that for you Rule 36.302

and the damn santa still refused. There was no chance what-so-ever of that dog biting santa.

which that dog most likely was not.

seriously, if you have info please provide (I would prefer to be informed if wrong).

The info I can find:

"Service dogs are selected for their temperament, intelligence." They are trained from puppies for their mission in life. The reason all service dogs, not only pit bulls, are so expensive is because they are extensively trained by professionals for at least nine monthe, THE they continue the training with the dog & it's master for 3-4 weeks. They are socialized with every situation possible from when they are puppies, cats, kittens, other dogs, kids of all ages, men, women, old and young and of all races so they are used to most everything and won't be distracted from their orders.

The Pit Bulls people are afraid of, and mostly with cause, are either not trained at all and left to do as they wish, or worse, trained to be "like a junk yard dog". Some people think it'os fun to have people afraid of THEIR dog!

Dogs that harm people or other animals are simply not trained not to do so. Lazy owners. Too lazy to do the work it takes to properly train a dog, or too lazy & stupid to know where to find out HOW to properly train their dog. It's a shame that the dogs have to suffer because of people.

like seeing eye dogs attaching while on duty, but I did find the service dog being attacked by other dogs while on duty. (Military and the SS dogs are another matter). And by Federal Statutes, poorly behaved service dogs are excluded.......See... U.S. Code of Federal Regulations § 36.202(c)(2):
(2) Exceptions. A public accommodation may ask an individual with a disability to remove a service animal from the premises if:
(i) The animal is out of control and the animal’s handler does not take effective action to control it; or
(ii) The animal is not housebroken.
(3) If an animal is properly excluded. If a public accommodation properly excludes a service animal under § 36.302(c)(2), it shall give the individual with a disability the opportunity to obtain goods, services, and accommodations without having the service animal on the premises. U.S. Code of Federal Regulations § 36.202. I found this at http://www.anythingpawsable.com/things-service-dogs-public/#.VH_In2ccQkM.

and as a person who has been bitten by and dog who "wouldn't hurt a thing" any rage I feel (which I don't ) is well in it's place in this post

Why is DU's popularity waning? (Title edited, explanation within.)http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025904116
maybe it's all the fucking civility people on this board have for each other if youre not part of the right clique

Maybe I don't have an axe to grind like some people.

The girl and her service dog are very cute. For the record, my dog would never agree to wear antlers and bells.

But was instead simply "designated" one by the family.

and your condescending disdain is disgusting. I raised a son with a form of autism. Many, many children with autism have service dogs who are specially trained for it. It helps them tremendously.

I have never known a mean pit bull. Each and every single one of them that I've interacted with has been friendly and easy to deal with. A former neighbor had one and he was the biggest baby you'd ever seen. The two times I was bitten or threatened by a dog, one was a beagle and the other a lab.

If this was not a professionally trained service dog, it had no business at the mall, regardless of the breed.

If you are unable to see why people shouldn't bring their pets to the mall, were never going to agree.

professionally trained? Is there any indication in the article to show that? No, there isn't. Only your desire to show contempt for this child and her family. I've noted that people who are stingy enough to not like the fact that service animals even exist are always quick to fall back on the "but it's probably not professionally trained and not a real service animal" wagon. And they're usually wrong.

And yes, animals do not belong at a mall unless they're in a pet shop or are service animals. Whether you like it or not, there are many conditions for which people need and have trained. service animals and they are permitted to be in most public places.

quote of the day.

Naming a kid Abcde, I mean.

and/or at the end of their frustration by trying to come up with that "perfect" trendy name that isn't already used by half the kids on their street...

They probably pronounce it AB sea dee and call her Abby.just a wild ass guess.

I don't know where the name originated, but I've met several small children named "Absidy" or "Abcity" over the past decade. All went by "Abby" as a nickname. I'd never heard the name before this past decade, so I have to assume that it came from a book or movie somewhere.

"Abcde" sounds like a cutesy spelling variation.

I've heard of this, but thought it was an urban legend. Lol

pronouned Fuh-geezh.

I assumed Abscde was an attempt to provide anonymity to the child - until I saw the pronunciation guide. Sad.

Says the guy calling himself Bloodaxe...

Erich Sebastian Bloodaxe, RN, PhD, MSA, BA, BS, BSN, ADN

I decided if I were to post behind a fake name online, I'd be much more tempted to act like a jerk, since I see so many people who hide behind made up names acting like jerks.

That's beyond cool.

I tried substitute teaching for exactly one day...8th or 9th grade, I can't recall now. After being called 'Mr Bloodass' several times, I decided substitute teaching wasn't for me...

So it has its ups and downs. Heck, even 'Erich' confuses a lot of people. Half the time I get phone calls from people who want the E to be a long E sound, and the rest as 'rich'. It's actually pronounced the same as 'eric' in english or german, although it doesn't bother me when Austrians say it their way, which sounds like 'air-itch'.

pronounce Erich? Sheesh, some people need to get out more, that's just sad.

It's like these parents sentenced this kid to a hard life. Maybe developing autism was the reaction to it...

At least it gives you an excuse to have a pit bull.

And yes, I expect my first hide and no, I don't care. You really do take the cake with some of your comments.

Not a big fan of hyper-clever names, but she can take that up with her parents.

now it's back to the unemployment line for santa

Children with disabilities. ADA was wrong on this. Hope the mall sues so that more Americans know of this dangerous practice. The Santa had every right to turn this child away. His life was at severe risk. Heck even if he ends up fired, at least he is alive.

I keep thinking you are serious and then you come up with a belly laughing whopper of a post.

Pay special attention to the 2013 award winner Elle (I'll tip you off, she's a therapy dog and a pit bull)

http://www.herodogawards.org/

You know at one time they were considered nanny dogs? Sure you do.



What's changed between then and now? Fuckers like Michael Vick, who decide to fight them? Speaking of Vick...

Hector, a former Vick dog. Poor little guy died recently from Babesia.



Handsome Dan, another Vick dog, thriving:



Tillie, used as bait:



Patrick. We all know his story thanks to that POS woman up in Newark who starved him and threw him down a trash chute.



Thor.



Killers, indeed.

I never really considered myself a dog person until my husband got a guide dog. Now I am definitely a dog person.

have stuck to cats just because they're lower maintenance. I've gotten into transport for dog rescues and when retired, plan to start fostering. Yeah, I'll admit I'm a bit of a junkie with the rescue sites on Facebook!

...but I don't assume all people with Bipolar are violent monsters.

chances.

B. I can tell by outward appearances whether a dog is a pitbull, pitbull mix, or similar breed. I can't do that with a person with bipolar disorder.

C. Dogs are far more likely to randomly attack strangers than humans.

D. I've seen many other pitbulls that bark or are otherwise very aggressive besides the two that almost bit a finger off.

Try it. Here are pictures of ten dogs. None of them are purebred. They are all mixed breeds. ONLY ONE IS PART PIT BULL. Your job is to FIND THE PIT BULL!!

Dog 02


Dog 07


Dog 08


Dog 22


Dog 33


Dog 54


Dog 58


Dog 79


Dog 89


Dog 111

pet your dog.

I'm not going to take it away from you or vote for anti pitbull ordinances so calm down.

(though I do think it should the law that all pets whether dog or not should be leashed, inside, or fenced in).

I don't really care for german shepherds, rottweilers, dogo argentinos, or many other breeds either.

I don't think you can. Prove me wrong.

are similar breeds by my definition of similar breed. And yeah I'm not going to play the game that only one of them is a true pitbull and one is a bull mastiff and one is a dogo argentino. All square headed bulky body dogs are bad mojo to me.

Also I'm using OR in the inclusive sense not exclusive. In other words I'm saying that I may not be able to tell the difference between a pitbull and a bull mastiff, but I can tell the difference between a pitbull type dog and a newfoundland.

Again not going to vote to ban them, so get over it. Not sure why you want everyone to love your pitbull rather than just want you to keep it in the house and have all the fun in the world you want with it.

The American Staffordshire Terrier, the Staffordshire Bull Terrier, and the American Pit Bull Terrier. So this is a relatively simple request, given that the great majority of shelter dogs are classed as "Pit Bulls" & all the dogs in my post #175 are shelter dogs

Unfortunately for you, your irrational & il-informed racial prejudice against all "square headed bulky body dogs" puts you at a great disadvantage.

So, one more time: Prove me wrong.

Or can we establish that you're a bigot who has no clue what you're talking about?

through, what is your end game here? To make me like pitbulls or other square headed bulky body dogs? Or what?

Again, I see a square headed bulky body dog, I'm not going to associate with it. What is the problem here?

rather than on what they actually do. You put the blame of a few individuals' bad behavior on the backs of millions who have done nothing to deserve it & never will.

The fact is, you can't "tell by outward appearances whether a dog is a pitbull". You're just full of shit.

Pitbulls (or dogs or even their owners) are not harmed by my opinion of them whatsoever. Even if I bought your premise about blame (I don't by the way), it is of NO CONSEQUENCE to dogs. Dogs do not understand collective blame. Dogs do not care why someone does not want to associate with them.

Again you have still not asserted any type of end game of what you are trying to accomplish with me, you just throw insults. I, in my bigoted ways have actually tried to have a conversation... if I dislike pitbulls, so then what? And you just throw more insults. If you do it again without answering "so what?" don't bother as I will not respond.

And finally, I stated I know what a pitbull or similar breed looks like - ie I can tell the difference between a square headed bulky bodied dog and a poodle. I didn't say I could tell the difference between a pitbull and a boxer. Your assertion of me saying that I could tell the difference between a pitbull and a boxer is either

a. flat out false

or

b. you do not understand the difference between inclusive or and exclusive or.

Try reading the OP.

Thank you, at least for admitting how evil you really are.

Khan, Osama bin Laden, and Nero.

Just the small, pathetic, banal evil of taking Christmas away from a little autistic girl because of your own stupidity.

autistic and one blind. My husband had a guide dog and that guide dog was a kinder more loving being than most humans I come across including some so called progressives on DU. You are not someone I want to associate with. You are going on ignore.

Should that breed be banned? Bad owners, bad dogs. And some dogs are just neurotic. A tightly-wound Cairn Terrier took a chunk out of friend's leg.

Pit bulls are not the vicious killing-machines they're made out to be.

Sure acted like she was about to. I disliked that dog too and my mom would never restrain her while she was barking up a storm at any delivery or mail person.

To behave but she just utterly hated me and another person.

created apologists to accompany the vintage photos of kids and pits

I believe it's the English Staffordshire Bull Terrier that's consider the nanny dog, because they're loyal, affectionate, and tend to be good with humans. Even little humans.

The problem is that they're too eager to please, and dog-fighting monsters exploit that. They're not for everyone, though. Just like an Akita, German Shepherd, Mastiff or Dogo might not be for everyone.