Murder by gang - police gang.

what? A couple of loose cigarettes?

Glorious pics on Twitter,
https://twitter.com/hashtag/ShutItDown?src=hash


but since I have no MSM in the house....was wondering how the networks are covering the protests.

What case are we talking about? A new one? Fuck.

The one with video where the cop is choking him and he is saying I can't breath,
I am not sure I can breath now after this one. Good fugging grief!!!
Do we have the right to life?

Because if we keep going in this direction, we're ALL screwed.

of the hate mongers and especially the preachers who give an excuse for this kind of behavior. The president outlined a plan to begin addressing this yesterday. Today everyone is coming up with some kind of criticism. We have to start somewhere. And in 2014 we elected a whole lineup of people who most likely do not give a shit. Justice deferred.

No justice.

Just wow.

This man dies for an incredibly petty crime via a choke hold that is against policy.

That's the part that is most galling.

in any way.

It's time for DOJ to step in. Time to let the police and their supporters enjoy a White Christmas -boycott every business until this senseless slaughter stops.

I guess between Garner and the loose cigarettes and Brown with the cigarillos the cops are just trying to show black men that smoking is hazardous to their health.

I emailed my son in Tanzania that our country has been broken but maybe we can get it patched up before he comes back.

I really thought the jury would see this as a case. I do not understand people.

This is so hard to believe..

That speaks volumes imo.

It actually seems to be getting much worse and more frequent .

what, exactly, will it take for a GJ of a major metropolitan area to issue an indictment of a cop?

Apparently, clear video with clear audio, isn't enough.

That's all it will take, but that is also something you probably won't find. The prosecutor cop relationship is too close. Without the support of the police department, the prosecutor is out of luck, therefore they act more as a defense counsel than a prosecutor. There should be prosecutors who's only job is going after bad cops (and others in the judicial system).

The system is fucking broken.

I'm hard of hearing and this creeps me out in spite of the white skin protection I have.

Read about this little innocent 7 year old murdered by Detroit police Officer Joseph Weekley while being filmed for a TV show. The prosecutor indicted him ...

The entire incident was captured on video, the cop used a choke hold banned by NYPD in 1993 and he still isn't indicted.

They will make sure that they are broken at the time that they want to do their dirty work, than say that the device malfunctioned.
I see something similar with them with computers. They have to do a month end report, and every month, like clockwork, some of their PCs are broken. They then get overtime to complete their monthly reports when their computer is fixed.

Its a good reform in a long list of much needed police reforms.

I am merely speaking from personal experience.

alleged misconduct occurs, that will be taken as prima facie evidence of guilt.

and the grand jury still failed to indict.

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It's absolutely shameful.

It would not have happened in any other borough of the city with Democratic DAs that are accountable to large numbers of people of color.

Again, it's shameful.

Do you think body cameras in Ferguson or in Ohio would make a difference in the grand jury decision? They wouldn't have because if the prosecutor doesn't actually do his or her job, it doesn't matter if all the jurors had ringside seats.

Body cams can contribute to what is known about police excessive force.

The next thing we have to do is go after these racist DAs who don't aggressively seek indictments from the grand juries.

They are the ones with the power after the killings. If they don't use it to go after justice we need to recall their asses pronto.

Either that or laws that call for special prosecutors in police crime cases as the current DA/police connection is too buddy-buddy for the prosecutors to aggressively go for indictments against cops they work with everyday.

Intellectually, I can see the conundrum for local prosecutors. I think if there's a questionable police involved death, the U.S. Attorney should immediately be assigned the case and the grand jury that's empaneled shouldn't be from that immediate area.

I'm not against body cameras but I fear that they'll only be used to create federally funded snuff films.

In my mind it is dominated by virulently racist ethnic whites (Italians, Greeks, Portuguese, etc.).

Staten Island has long been a virtually segregated borough where until recently, blacks were only allowed to live on the north shore.

It's isolation, connected to the rest of the city only by the Verranzano Bridge and the Staten Island Ferry, seems to have helped the racists to operate with impunity. It's also much less diverse than the rest of the city — 80% to 20% minority.

It would fit in very comfortably in the old South.

edit: no need for cameras on police....here we have video of a homicide...plain & clear...and no indictment. shame on our justice system.

We have to stop this and now

happening. Stand up sir this action is not one that the police on 9/11 died for. This is a hate crime.

He has to say something.

a borough where he may have gotten 20% of the vote:

http://observer.com/2014/12/amid-news-of-no-indictment-in-garner-case-de-blasio-headed-to-staten-island/

multi-hour xmas celebrity filled extravaganza a/k/a the Rockefeller Tree Lighting but very wisely backed out.

Somebody posted an editorial by someone at the Irish Times said that African Americans must feel like they're being hunted. Now this.

Oh, and dear white people:

Do not hear about these cases and think you are safe. Guess who's next?

Love,
Brigid

..... I'm hoping it will start a 60's type movement.

The start of the pendulum swinging back (if Obama wasn't that.... even tho' he admires Reagan)

We do this with our athletes. We make people take drug tests to get a job or food stamps (in some places).

A rage that can come with steroid use. The only way to find out is to test them. I mean there are not enough anger management classes that can hide a rage of this type.

It's not the lack of opportunity, it must be the drugs that is making them "that way". Attributing their behavior to something more socially acceptable.

Simple fact is most of these people aren't raging on drugs. Not only is there little evidence, but doctors face a liability when they prescribe such things - they must give patients urine tests and if the levels get out of whack they could be liable. So it's not as common as people would like to think - but it's easier than thinking one is paying a racist police force to do these things, eh? But that is exactly what is going on, because most white folk are still just as racist as they ever have been.

Wouldn't hurt to test, but it won't do anything much to fix the problem, because without steroids they would still hate just as much.

since so many cops are retired military. We are the ones who created these insane cops.

The ruling elite delights in creating terror, misery, suffering and pain. They pride themselves in creating "thugs of terror", meaning violent order keepers, to keep the 99.99% down. The ruling elite are losing control and so they create fear and violence to terrorize people into obedience. They create stupid Obey hats and shirts that they market as the newest cool thing to kids. It's the ruling monsters of terror who are creating all this hatred, killing, violence, addiction, disease for in many many ways they profit from this. This is the only way they know is profit. They know nothing of compassion and humanity. They want their police mob to be just like them, violent, abusive, conniving, hateful and without care.

I meant humans in general. You are right on about the warmongers.

Apparently it is completely legal now for the police to murder whomever they please It's all there on video, too, just so there is no doubt about exactly how it happened. He was murdered. Period.

What would a policeman have to do to get indicted? I don't have an answer as it now appears there is no answer. We're not talking about a guilty verdict from a jury, but just a decision by the grand jury to send a case to trial where a jury can hear the evidence and determine whether a crime was committed and what crime was committed.

but just a decision by the grand jury to send a case to trial - they won't get away with this one.

:fistbump.

.... why "good" cops don't get all worked up over what these lousy cops make them all look like?

the Chief of Police lives 5 houses down from me. Maybe it is just this particular CoP, but he doesn't tolerate any bullshit from his cops...none. If they have tarnished records, they don't get employed. If they fuck up big time, they don't stay employed.

What I don't understand is if a small town Chief can be that on the ball with a small budget...wtf is up with huge metro PDs that have millions to spend?

Good cops better start standing up to these bad ones or they are going to lose respect via guilt by association. This really pisses me off...I am pro law enforcement, but the non ending stories of cop abuse is really getting to me.

And he thought that not only did Zimmerman get away with homicide, also the trial was nothing more than a 'dog and pony' show - a complete injustice. I will post a thread when I get a chance to talk to him again, I will ask what he thinks about Garner and Brown.

That would explain why the cops there seem "good".

you can't allow people to get away with cheating the government out of money by selling untaxed single cigarettes, it would lead to anarchy

I sincerely hope I don't have to use the thingy here

in a coherent way. Add this insult onto the insistence of the Ferguson and St. Louis police departments to punish the whole community for not appreciating them for the heroes they consider themselves to be.

Cops seldom held to account for their corrupt murdering actions.

If they are having a 'roid rage while committing these violent crimes, they should be fired and forfeit their pension.

There's going to be hell to pay. No justice, no peace. It won't be me burning it all down, but it will be somebody. You'd think we'd learn by now.

Just one more reason for me to be ashamed to be white.

Is it a matter of prosecutors with no real desire to actually prosecute putting together deliberately weak or misleading cases?

And/or are many of our fellow citizens who serve on these juries part of the problem, giving cops way too much leeway?

by Grand Wizards from the KKK. This is fugging madness.

That would make them Petty Cowards of the kkk (kooky kracked kwackers)

Who appoints those on the commission who chooses a grand jury? Appointees and those that appoint them could definitely have a racist agenda. Justice Dept needs to investigate and do something.

The most important value is the right to life. This has to be stopped.

The Police union would presumably back his/her opponent.

There are powers that be, the good ol boys club that keeps this fascist machine running will continue to call the shots until there is a power change. Until then cops will continue to get away with murder and especially if the person they kill is black.

Nyc's little internal conservative colony

...not an expert on NYC, but I know Staten Island has that rep.

but I swear to God that if a member of my immediate family was placed in a chokehold and said he/she couldn't breathe and then in fact stopped breathing, and if I had access to a weapon, I would not hesitate in coming to my family member's defense and kill dead every single one of those cops without remorse.

I think these types of criminal acts by police are pushing people closer to armed insurrection. You can push the people just so far. They're not giving the people the option of not using force, as the law isn't working. And they're not even letting people peacefully protest. And I don't say that lightly because I've never been violent, I abhor violence, and my philosophy very much is one of 'live and let live'.

De Blasio said he couldn't go on if this happened to his Dante - it's profoudly personal for him. Good Press conference.

To freerepublic (I know, I know, I like to see what the enemy is thinking from time to time) and I was shocked at the number of people who thought there should be an indictment and this WAS police brutality. If you can get freepers to agree to that, you done fucked up. I sense, as tragic as this is, that we may be seeing the straw that broke the camel's back. There seems to be a palpable outrage from the public in general about this and if anything good comes out of this tragedy it's that.

does not deserve to survive just to do it more

The only explanation is racism. This isn't going to end well.

Look carefully at the white mob throughout the killings of African American child I see no difference in what is happening today other than it is either a wannabe or actual cop doing the killimg. I hope no one ever again listens to the United States get self righteous about human rights. We will reap the whirl wind.

DOJ will conduct an independent investigation.

Yeeeeeeeeeeees!

nt

Did I hear that right?

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I saw a young white female from Wisconsin making the connection between the Occupy Movement, the racial problems and the low wage worker strike.

People are waking up - change is always bottom up not top down - it only comes from the people.

...and that in many other places the cops would have been charged, but that is probably wishful thinking on my part.