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WTF? First he puts Eric Garner in a deadly chokehold, and then he's waving at the camera? (Original Post) napkinz Dec 2014 OP
more WTF ... "P.B.A leader: Pantaleo a ‘model’ police officer" napkinz Dec 2014 #1
He is the kind of man, that would choke someone to death and then wave at the cameras. Rex Dec 2014 #5
who the hell waves at someone filming you after you've committed a homicide? napkinz Dec 2014 #7
Well, if he's the ideal Bettie Dec 2014 #10
"Then people in that city should be very, very frightened" napkinz Dec 2014 #11
Yep. Bettie Dec 2014 #12
"He is the model of what we want a police officer to be" BillZBubb Dec 2014 #2
so can we say they are thugs with immunity? napkinz Dec 2014 #3
Video: Lawrence O'Donnell on the "model police officer" who used the chokehold & waved at the camera napkinz Dec 2014 #4
He's not even fucking phased RedCappedBandit Dec 2014 #6
Take someone's life, destroy a family and not give a damn about it MrScorpio Dec 2014 #8
But he's an Eagle Scout! napkinz Dec 2014 #13
I was watching The Ed Schultz Show last night and they were showing the video. My grandson who jwirr Dec 2014 #9
Watch Jon Stewart's face when "martial arts student" Sean Hannity discussed Eric Garner napkinz Dec 2014 #14
My point was that the cop was fully aware of what he was doing because he was using all the moves jwirr Dec 2014 #15
I know ... napkinz Dec 2014 #16
He certainly could. Thank you. jwirr Dec 2014 #17
kick napkinz Dec 2014 #18
Maybe surgical or chemical castration for every male on the force coupled with constant drug aint_no_life_nowhere Dec 2014 #19
"too nonchalant after killing someone" napkinz Dec 2014 #20
The term "full of themselves" applied to these overbearing cops couldn't be more appropriate aint_no_life_nowhere Dec 2014 #21
By the way, the Patrolman's Malevolent Association seems to have declared war on the Mayor aint_no_life_nowhere Dec 2014 #22
DU member Blue Tires posted about Patrick Lynch attacking the mayor ... napkinz Dec 2014 #23
Oh that REALLY shows he didn't mean to hurt Garner LiberalElite Dec 2014 #24
and now a message from Danny ... napkinz Dec 2014 #25

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
1. more WTF ... "P.B.A leader: Pantaleo a ‘model’ police officer"
Thu Dec 4, 2014, 11:24 PM
Dec 2014

By Azi Paybarah
Dec. 4, 2014

Daniel Pantaleo, the NYPD officer who placed Eric Garner in a fatal chokehold last July, is a "model" police officer whom the public does not know enough about, the head of the Patrolmen's Benevolent Association said today.

He is the model of what we want a police officer to be,” P.B.A. president Pat Lynch said of Pantaleo. “What’s also been lost is the character of police officer Daniel Pantaleo. What’s not being told is what kind of man and what kind of person and what kind of professional he is.

"He is a resident of this great city. He lives on Staten Island. He lives in those neighborhoods. He’s college educated, here in this city. He’s a mature, mature police officer who’s motivated by serving the community. He literally, literally, is an Eagle Scout,” said Lynch, adding that the maneuver Pantaleo used on Garner was a “textbook” takedown.

read more: http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/city-hall/2014/12/8557881/pba-leader-pantaleo-model-police-officer






 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
5. He is the kind of man, that would choke someone to death and then wave at the cameras.
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 11:30 AM
Dec 2014

A model police officer?

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
7. who the hell waves at someone filming you after you've committed a homicide?
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 11:36 AM
Dec 2014

(if this is a model police officer, what does it say about the entire police force?)

Well, it seems the grand jury agreed he's a model police officer.






Bettie

(16,111 posts)
10. Well, if he's the ideal
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 12:13 PM
Dec 2014

Then people in that city should be very, very frightened and very angry.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
11. "Then people in that city should be very, very frightened"
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 12:44 PM
Dec 2014

some people -- people of color -- more than others



Bettie

(16,111 posts)
12. Yep.
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 12:50 PM
Dec 2014

People of color especially. But, if this is the standard of law enforcement, then we should all be frightened, because it won't be long until they see us all as targets.

And we should all be very, very angry. OF course, that might lead to us being seen as threats and killed.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
2. "He is the model of what we want a police officer to be"
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 12:47 AM
Dec 2014

And that is exactly the problem! They want cops to be inhumane thugs who will choke a (black) man to death without a qualm.

That isn't what any decent person wants a cop to be.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
4. Video: Lawrence O'Donnell on the "model police officer" who used the chokehold & waved at the camera
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 11:24 AM
Dec 2014
"That model police officer has already cost the city of New York at least $30,000 in a lawsuit where he was accused of illegally strip-searching two black men and touching their genitals. That model police officer is being sued in an unlawful arrest case that is still pending."


see the video: http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/union-cop--not-a-chokehold--a-seatbelt-maneuver-367479363987


Nah, race was not a factor in the Eric Garner incident.







RedCappedBandit

(5,514 posts)
6. He's not even fucking phased
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 11:32 AM
Dec 2014

by the fact that someone just lost his life at his hands.

That's some seriously deranged shit, REGARDLESS of the justification. Given the complete LACK of justification here, that's ESPECIALLY fucked up.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
13. But he's an Eagle Scout!
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 01:27 PM
Dec 2014
Chokehold Cop Is 'Eagle Scout' Blameless In Eric Garner's Death, NYPD Union President Says

By Christopher Mathias
12/04/2014

The president of the NYPD’s largest police union said Thursday that the officer who put Eric Garner into a fatal chokehold is an Eagle Scout who shouldn’t be blamed for the death.

Pat Lynch, president of the Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association, did fault one person for the death: Eric Garner.

“We believe Mr. Garner made a choice that day to resist arrest,” Lynch told reporters during a press conference Thursday, according to NBC New York.

-snip-

Pantaleo, Lynch said, “is literally, literally an Eagle Scout, and I think that story isn’t being told. That a New York City police officer went out and did a difficult job, a job where there’s no script, and sometimes with that, a tragedy comes.”

read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/04/pat-lynch-eric-garner_n_6272738.html





jwirr

(39,215 posts)
9. I was watching The Ed Schultz Show last night and they were showing the video. My grandson who
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 11:48 AM
Dec 2014

is an expert in martial arts saw it. The chokehold that the cop was using is a part of Jujitsu and is very deadly. Will used his own body to show me what they do and the known damage that will occur when it is applied. Not only was the hold preventing the victim from breathing it was also shutting blood and oxygen from getting to the brain. Because the victim had diabetes and asthma it was even worse. Stopping the blood to the brain increased to problems with diabetes and stopping his breathing increased the effect of the asthma.

Will then walked out into the kitchen and one of Ed's guests said exactly the same thing. Those cops murdered the victim. I suspect there was no one on the GJ that understood martial arts.

What I want to see happen regarding reform is:

1. All police should be given a independent psychiatric exam every year and after every incident.

2. At the time of hiring each applicant should have a background check and this program should be made nationwide so that it cannot be hidden by moving to another state.

3. The GJ system should be abolished in favor of a jury trial when there is an incident. We got this system from England many many years ago and they an all of their colonies have abandon it because it does not work. In a jury trial both sides are presented and can be cross examined.

4. All the military equipment must be taken away. This is the USA - we are not an occupied country.

5. The Federal Department of Justice should be given more power to oversee police actions.

6. Cameras may help but what would really help is to protect the right of citizens to take videos of police action when they can without retaliation.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
14. Watch Jon Stewart's face when "martial arts student" Sean Hannity discussed Eric Garner
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 01:44 PM
Dec 2014

by Ezra Klein
December 5, 2014

Speaking of that chokehold, you're not going to want to miss Fox News' Sean Hannity beginning his analysis of the move with "as a martial arts student"...

see video: http://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/12/5/7339327/jon-stewart-sean-hannity




jwirr

(39,215 posts)
15. My point was that the cop was fully aware of what he was doing because he was using all the moves
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 02:36 PM
Dec 2014

and he was also fully aware that it is a lethal hold.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
16. I know ...
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 03:04 PM
Dec 2014

I just thought it was funny that Sean Hannity claimed it wasn't a chokehold, Sean Hannity claiming to be a student of martial arts.

Your grandson could teach Hannity a thing or two I'm sure.







aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
19. Maybe surgical or chemical castration for every male on the force coupled with constant drug
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 08:07 PM
Dec 2014

monitoring would help. These guys are too overloaded with testosterone and too nonchalant after killing someone to not be on anabolic steroids, amphetamines, or something.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
20. "too nonchalant after killing someone"
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 09:20 PM
Dec 2014

And a real show of defiance, waving at the camera.

Yet now we are to believe he feels remorse:

After Pantaleo was cleared by the Staten Island grand jury, the Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association released a statement on the cop’s behalf. “I hope that they will accept my personal condolences for their loss,” he said.


http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nypd-eric-garner-chokehold-death-not-indicted-article-1.2031841



aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
21. The term "full of themselves" applied to these overbearing cops couldn't be more appropriate
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 09:29 PM
Dec 2014

No humility, no remorse, no consideration of others. They live in their own ego-driven world where they are heroes in their own minds.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
22. By the way, the Patrolman's Malevolent Association seems to have declared war on the Mayor
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 09:56 PM
Dec 2014

This is the front page of their website. I hope the city runs even shorter of cash to pay police benefits if the Garner family brings and wins a civil suit for wrongful death.





The words "moral obligation" are an attempt to throw the mayor's words back in his face. On taking office, DeBlasio proceeded to settle a case with the "Central Park Five", a group of five black juvenile teens falsely accused of rape and who served full prison sentences before their convictions were overturned. II seems the police coerced admissions of guilt by the teens and didn't allow their parents or guardians to attend their interrogations. The police used various ruses, including telling the main suspect they had found his fingerprints on the victim's clothes. During a new trial, they were cleared by DNA evidence and by the fact the real rapist confessed.

So mayor DeBlasio described the fact he had to settle the case brought by the juveniles, considering it New York's "moral obligation". Now, this disgusting Patrolman's Malevolent Association is mocking DeBlasio's words, criticizing him for settling the case in which the police bore responsibility for falsely sending five black kids to prison. The police cost the city $41 million in the settlement.

This is the police culture as represented by the Patrolman's Malevolent Association, the crap, the filth, the excrement in which guys like Pantaleo bathe.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
23. DU member Blue Tires posted about Patrick Lynch attacking the mayor ...
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 10:48 PM
Dec 2014
Eric Garner fallout: Cops feel "thrown under the bus," union says

"What police officers felt yesterday after that press conference is that they were thrown under the bus," Lynch told reporters Thursday. "That they were out there doing a difficult job in the middle of the night, protecting the rights of those to protest, protecting our sons and daughters and the mayor was behind microphones like this throwing them under the bus."


see http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025911624


Good for Mayor DeBlasio.

Can you imagine if Giuliani were still mayor.








napkinz

(17,199 posts)
25. and now a message from Danny ...
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 02:28 PM
Dec 2014


I'm surprised he wasn't asked, "Hey Danny, you just killed a young unarmed African American man on suspicion of selling loosies, what are you going to do now?"

Danny: "I'm going to Disney World!"




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