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Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 10:02 AM Dec 2014

Anyone have a good source re. police shooting stats? Preferably broken down by race, sex, etc.?

I was watching Fox last nite and O'Reilly made several suspect assertions and referred the curious to his website for the statistical evidence.

I can't find anything there. ( If anyone else can, let me know.)

Otherwise... I'd like a dependable ( i.e. relatively unbiased) source.

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Anyone have a good source re. police shooting stats? Preferably broken down by race, sex, etc.? (Original Post) Smarmie Doofus Dec 2014 OP
A couple of weeks ago, Jon Stewart had a segment on this very thing - djean111 Dec 2014 #1
20 - 30% of ALL police shooting victims are Unarmed Citizens FreakinDJ Dec 2014 #2
FBI crime data is here: ctaylors6 Dec 2014 #3
THAT is VOLUNTARY reporting... hlthe2b Dec 2014 #6
Eugene Robinson also did a whole column on how there are no national stats. kwassa Dec 2014 #4
I'll try to sink my teeth into this a little later. Thanks. n/t Smarmie Doofus Dec 2014 #12
Here is a good article w/links to stats cheyanne Dec 2014 #5
'SwatI'mtalkin'about! Thanks. Smarmie Doofus Dec 2014 #10
There's a Federal law requiring police dept's to file stats with the gov't ... eppur_se_muova Dec 2014 #7
That's amazing. Smarmie Doofus Dec 2014 #11
Nope! They are purposely not collecting it! Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #8
Our government at all levels refuses to keep such a repository alcibiades_mystery Dec 2014 #9
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
1. A couple of weeks ago, Jon Stewart had a segment on this very thing -
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 10:09 AM
Dec 2014

there is no central database for stats on this. The federal government has no statistics, the police keep no statistics.
Any statistics you see, I believe, are the result of just combing through news stories and court records and such.
Deliberate, of course.

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
2. 20 - 30% of ALL police shooting victims are Unarmed Citizens
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 10:13 AM
Dec 2014

I'll dig it out for ya -check back in this thread

ctaylors6

(693 posts)
3. FBI crime data is here:
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 10:14 AM
Dec 2014

Link: http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s

Based on uniform crime reports. I don't think 2013 is complete yet. 2012 might still be missing some items also.

Not sure how much detail it has for what you're asking.

hlthe2b

(102,298 posts)
6. THAT is VOLUNTARY reporting...
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 11:08 AM
Dec 2014

that should say it all in terms of validity/reliability/representiveness.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
4. Eugene Robinson also did a whole column on how there are no national stats.
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 10:19 AM
Dec 2014
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/eugene-robinson-its-a-crime-that-we-dont-know-how-many-people-police-shoot-to-death/2014/12/01/adedcb00-7998-11e4-b821-503cc7efed9e_story.html

What America’s police departments don’t want you to know

Police officers in the United States shoot and kill civilians in shockingly high numbers. How many killings are there each year? No one can say for sure, because police departments don’t want us to know.

According to the FBI’s Uniform Crime Report, in 2013 there were 461 “justifiable homicides” by police — defined as “the killing of a felon by a law enforcement officer in the line of duty.” In all but three of these reported killings, officers used firearms.

The true number of fatal police shootings is surely much higher, however, because many law enforcement agencies do not report to the FBI database. Attempts by journalists to compile more complete data by collating local news reports have resulted in estimates as high as 1,000 police killings a year. There is no way to know how many victims, like Brown, were unarmed.
................................................

Two years ago, D. Brian Burghart, the editor and publisher of the Reno (Nev.) News & Review, launched FatalEncounters.org, an ambitious attempt to compile a comprehensive crowd-sourced database of fatal police shootings. Reports of the October 2012 killing of a naked, unarmed college student by University of South Alabama police made Burghart wonder how many such shootings there were; the fact that no one knew the answer made him determined to find it.

Burghart recently summed up what he has learned so far: “You know who dies in the most population-dense areas? Black men,” he wrote on Gawker. “You know who dies in the least population-dense areas? Mentally ill men. It’s not to say there aren’t dangerous and desperate criminals killed across the line. But African-Americans and the mentally ill people make up a huge percentage of people killed by police.”


edit to add link to this new database on police shootings, just getting up and going.

http://www.fatalencounters.org/

eppur_se_muova

(36,271 posts)
7. There's a Federal law requiring police dept's to file stats with the gov't ...
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 11:13 AM
Dec 2014

it's not enforced, and most have never filed.

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
11. That's amazing.
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 01:21 PM
Dec 2014

Can't we get any electeds to speak to this? What's the point of passing the law if it's ignored at all levels of gov't?

Holding hearings in either house would seem appropriate.... but that's obviously not going to happen now.

 

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)
8. Nope! They are purposely not collecting it!
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 11:18 AM
Dec 2014

Those stats don't exist, on purpose! Just part of the coverup of the epidemic of police violence.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
9. Our government at all levels refuses to keep such a repository
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 11:20 AM
Dec 2014

Anyone who says they know the real numbers is lying to you. We do not aggregate these numbers by policy.

We have no idea how many people police kill each year.

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