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cali

(114,904 posts)
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 02:15 PM Dec 2014

yikes. what are they thinking? Hillary PAC puts out country music vid "Stand with Hillary"

A bearded cowboy slings a guitar and swings a sledgehammer in a new country-music video that gushingly praises potential presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.

This does not bode well for anyone hoping the coming campaigns will tone down the rhetoric.

We can't wait for the video with Chris Christie doing some sexy break-dancing.

<snip>

Thinking about one great lady like the women in my life,
She’s a mother, a daughter and through it all she’s a loving wife.

A young Hillary is shown with a beaming Bill Clinton.
There is something about her, this great lady, caring hard working, once a first lady.
She fights for country and my family, now it’s time for us to stand up with Hillary.
Hillar-eeee ...
Stand up ... with Hillar-eee-eee-eee.
Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/trending/Country-music-video-heaps-praise-on-Hillary-Clinton.html#giwkp01do6RkZmGK.99

and here it is:



pander to those white NASCAR/country music voters.
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yikes. what are they thinking? Hillary PAC puts out country music vid "Stand with Hillary" (Original Post) cali Dec 2014 OP
OFFS! n/t fredamae Dec 2014 #1
it's so awful but I can't stop laughing. cali Dec 2014 #3
You're a lot tougher than I fredamae Dec 2014 #22
not to mention it was recorded with a fucking spoon, 240P snooper2 Dec 2014 #32
They're focusing on the Dial-up voter. PeoViejo Dec 2014 #56
It is hilarious! OMFG what an awful mess that is. LOL. nt Mojorabbit Dec 2014 #119
A perfect, revolting illustration of what elections have become in this country. woo me with science Dec 2014 #149
Well, Cute, Empty Campaign Nothings fredamae Dec 2014 #150
This is what's going to happen Cali_Democrat Dec 2014 #2
oh yeah, but this is a delicate, difficult proposition. cali Dec 2014 #5
Too bad. bravenak Dec 2014 #18
I remember how shocked I was back in 2008 that she was running cali Dec 2014 #23
I was too a little bit. My Mom was like 'I told you so. Boom!" bravenak Dec 2014 #35
Why does she need recovering alcoholics? nichomachus Dec 2014 #55
She's step thirteen. n/t customerserviceguy Dec 2014 #158
the ineptitude. it burns. roguevalley Dec 2014 #116
And then she'll lose. chrisa Dec 2014 #148
it will completely destroy the gop if we make inroads into the nascar crowd samsingh Dec 2014 #4
that's not what's happening. quite the contrary. cali Dec 2014 #6
she doesn't need to win those voters dsc Dec 2014 #162
Because every voter Aerows Dec 2014 #93
This crappy video won't make any inroads with the "nascar crowd" tularetom Dec 2014 #107
It might win over the demographic that finds Nickelback too edgy and not mainstream enough Warren DeMontague Dec 2014 #112
True, but it may say the Clinton approach still aims to get the other guys voters HereSince1628 Dec 2014 #154
Hillary isn't going to win the NASCAR vote. Drunken Irishman Dec 2014 #114
You're not going to "embrace"... sendero Dec 2014 #138
She is so authentic! LondonReign2 Dec 2014 #7
1. We should compete for those voters, musical taste aside. 2. It could be worse-- geek tragedy Dec 2014 #8
I think the CW song is worse. cali Dec 2014 #15
Worse than this? geek tragedy Dec 2014 #17
oh my. cali Dec 2014 #19
I didn't think the country video was that bad geek tragedy Dec 2014 #26
this will be even more legendary. I think it's horrendous. cali Dec 2014 #31
Hey check it out there's a new campaign logo to go with the video Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #102
see, she does have people who love her JI7 Dec 2014 #84
Yeah, between this and her favorite bible verse, she's REALLY inevitable, now! Warren DeMontague Dec 2014 #86
Warren Buffet donated max amount to HillaryPAC... JaneyVee Dec 2014 #9
No he didn't brooklynite Dec 2014 #30
The PAC he donated $25,000 to was "Ready for Hillary"... PoliticAverse Dec 2014 #48
Now that is bad. I kept thinking this was one of those....... wandy Dec 2014 #10
Holy horrible Batman! HappyMe Dec 2014 #11
Cringe-inducing. TwilightGardener Dec 2014 #12
It's so bad Aerows Dec 2014 #94
LOL. Agreed. TwilightGardener Dec 2014 #95
I think it's called Ink Man Dec 2014 #13
That will have the same effect as nichomachus Dec 2014 #66
Exactly.. sendero Dec 2014 #139
Or sponsoring a race car. nt Quackers Dec 2014 #87
<1> = unrec edgineered Dec 2014 #14
Can't wait to see what the rappers do with this. immoderate Dec 2014 #16
Here's my choice -> IDemo Dec 2014 #20
Jame McMurtry just doesn't "get" Hillar-reaganomics??? NYC_SKP Dec 2014 #125
I want the 48 seconds I spent watching that back, please. bravenak Dec 2014 #21
Sorry. You've seen it. You can't unsee it. Buns_of_Fire Dec 2014 #39
That's fine with me. bravenak Dec 2014 #42
All true, but I imagine we'll get used to it. Buns_of_Fire Dec 2014 #46
About what I'd expect from my personal last-choice for the Dem nomination. tridim Dec 2014 #24
that is truly fucking hideous. m-lekktor Dec 2014 #25
They just can't quit her. nolabear Dec 2014 #27
This stuff is what passes for serious discussion on a political website today... Rowdyboy Dec 2014 #28
oh bullshit. I have, for instance cali Dec 2014 #33
If this is truly the outrage de jour then you're scraping the bottom of the barrel.... Rowdyboy Dec 2014 #40
All you have to do - is not click on the thread, trash the thread, whatever. Not difficult. djean111 Dec 2014 #43
And miss out on the outrage (and the video)? No way! Rowdyboy Dec 2014 #45
No, here are some of the real outrages du jour: woo me with science Dec 2014 #96
Those are real issues with serious consequences. Have I posted about them? I rarely start threads Rowdyboy Dec 2014 #103
RowdyBoy Aerows Dec 2014 #97
Woah, woah woah. Fullstop. You are implying something I never said, either here or ANYWHERE on DU Rowdyboy Dec 2014 #108
Alright Aerows Dec 2014 #132
None taken. Quite honestly my mind isn't made up yet and she's certainly someone I'll strongly Rowdyboy Dec 2014 #134
LOL, in other words "I don't like people making fun of Hillary" nt Logical Dec 2014 #109
At least she could've gotten Garth or McGraw to do the video - Ya know some liberal country star jillan Dec 2014 #29
They have too much integrity as musicians HappyMe Dec 2014 #37
Exactly!! jillan Dec 2014 #41
Tim McGraw released a song called Truck Yeah. delta17 Dec 2014 #90
Will she be wearing a cowboy hat to the inauguration? Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2014 #34
I wonder if another one of her accents will sprout with that cowboy hat. LawDeeDah Dec 2014 #63
Why not? Jeb's out courting the Florida Cuban base misterhighwasted Dec 2014 #36
OK. In the interest of... balance here's the Warren song cali Dec 2014 #38
Pretty awful. polichick Dec 2014 #68
Really. Not a great song but hits on issues that Warren herself promotes. Luminous Animal Dec 2014 #117
Totally LOVE it!! RiverLover Dec 2014 #74
I like it too. It's got a lot of humor. cali Dec 2014 #75
Sarah Palin would be embarrassed. GeorgeGist Dec 2014 #44
I never like Hillary better than this. JEB Dec 2014 #47
Goodness! A politically themed advertisement from a PAC targeting a demographic... the horrors. LanternWaste Dec 2014 #49
It is a horror, HappyMe Dec 2014 #50
Wow. Totally tone-deaf, in so many ways. truebluegreen Dec 2014 #51
You completely summed it up Aerows Dec 2014 #98
Outrageous!1!1! NCTraveler Dec 2014 #52
are the giggles outrage? who knew? cali Dec 2014 #60
you still have to laugh at Mitt's mic handling. olddots Dec 2014 #53
as she moves towards the right.... dembotoz Dec 2014 #54
Yeah, what's your point? Lil Missy Dec 2014 #57
this is highly unlikely to appeal to the target while turning off people she needs cali Dec 2014 #61
So aside from the fact that my ears are bleeding... Proud Public Servant Dec 2014 #58
LOL True! I think what she stands for depends on the day & her audience, though. RiverLover Dec 2014 #59
What a hilarious display of Patheticism. LawDeeDah Dec 2014 #62
Excited about 2016 yet, folks? True Blue Door Dec 2014 #64
I feel my excitement all the way down to the lower portion of my bowels. Warren DeMontague Dec 2014 #85
This will remind people she once said she is not the kind to Stand by yer man type LawDeeDah Dec 2014 #65
Not surprised. I remember (as an Obama delegate) mmonk Dec 2014 #67
Yikes is right. polichick Dec 2014 #69
Big mistake Hillary olddots Dec 2014 #70
Good news, everyone! The team behind that PAC plan at least 4 more pro-Hillary music videos muriel_volestrangler Dec 2014 #71
Oh, thank you - I can't stop laughing! djean111 Dec 2014 #80
We Millennials almost all universally LOATH $hillary. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #121
You don't speak for all of us. And nice use of the right-wing $hillary name. Metric System Dec 2014 #168
I didn't think it was so bad... tavernier Dec 2014 #72
They missed a golden opportunity, didn't Buddy get hit by a car? Autumn Dec 2014 #73
Naughty! tavernier Dec 2014 #79
No country song is worth a shit without a dog, and a dead one is the best Autumn Dec 2014 #81
Here, try this tularetom Dec 2014 #113
Well, if yoy play country music backwards, you get your dog back, eridani Dec 2014 #118
Any republican 2016! obxhead Dec 2014 #76
Oh goody. The redneckization of 'murika continues. Arugula Latte Dec 2014 #77
Some call you tone deaf. I call you my base. nt raouldukelives Dec 2014 #78
Cringeworthy LittleBlue Dec 2014 #82
Love it! Stellar Dec 2014 #128
Can I opt for the root canal, instead? Warren DeMontague Dec 2014 #83
Already opted for the colonscopy procedure... Lugano Dec 2014 #99
The slowest three minutes and twenty-three seconds on youtube. Baitball Blogger Dec 2014 #88
Stand Up with Hillary, Lay Down with Bill. LawDeeDah Dec 2014 #89
Dear Lord Aerows Dec 2014 #91
A sledgehammer? woo me with science Dec 2014 #92
hard as I try, I can't come up with the words to describe the horror of it all NRaleighLiberal Dec 2014 #100
Please! Someone! A tongue depressor..quick elias49 Dec 2014 #101
Three words: Cookie Baking Mom daredtowork Dec 2014 #104
She is the classic empty suit politician. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #122
Well, country fans can be accustomed to being pandered to. arcane1 Dec 2014 #105
No fadedrose Dec 2014 #106
WHAT IS HER FAVORITE BIBLE VERSE? CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME? I NEED TO KNOW! Warren DeMontague Dec 2014 #110
I hadn't decided whether or not I would vote for her in the primary Warren DeMontague Dec 2014 #111
Yeah Baby! "Hilary for You and Me!" NYC_SKP Dec 2014 #115
Ewww, so many old white people. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #123
Trying to get the votes of morons who will never vote Dem, GENIUS! Odin2005 Dec 2014 #120
This is good. joshcryer Dec 2014 #124
No, it's awful, and it's insulting to the people she's trying to win over tularetom Dec 2014 #137
She didn't make it, some fans did. joshcryer Dec 2014 #160
I don't have to do anything further Aerows Dec 2014 #141
I have a thick southern accent. joshcryer Dec 2014 #159
Well obviously you aren't here now Aerows Dec 2014 #163
Not everything is about "perfect steps." joshcryer Dec 2014 #164
I might be willing to "Stand with Hillary" if only she would show signs of ladjf Dec 2014 #126
Well, I hope it works for her.... Stellar Dec 2014 #127
The article did not mention which pac put this out, I would check the sources of the article and the Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #129
Yes it did: "a news release from the Stand With Hillary PAC" muriel_volestrangler Dec 2014 #131
The link given in the post states Stand Up With Hillary, her pac is Stand With Hillary, Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #135
That is the link given in the post; it does NOT state "Stand Up With Hillary" muriel_volestrangler Dec 2014 #140
Look on the top left side of the video, look at the bottom and you will see sanalio.com as the Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #142
The link you gave is the link in the OP muriel_volestrangler Dec 2014 #144
Go bach to the original post, watch the video provided, look at the picture included in Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #145
Just correct your false "The article did not mention which pac put this out" claim in #129 muriel_volestrangler Dec 2014 #146
Okay, when I look at the video it is not a Hillary pac, I doubt if many saw Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #147
So you leave your false "the article did not mention which pac put this out" there, though you know muriel_volestrangler Dec 2014 #151
yes i did alert on this, the video has been hacked, I can admit my error, can you Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #153
The video is not a 'lie'; the visuals are just run at double speed muriel_volestrangler Dec 2014 #155
You know this is not the video on the link, anyones eyes and ears can see the difference. Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #156
I had to shut it off. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2014 #130
AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service demmiblue Dec 2014 #133
5-1, funny. I bet I know who juror 7 is! nt Logical Dec 2014 #136
Me, too Aerows Dec 2014 #143
You know what the sad truth is? DonCoquixote Dec 2014 #152
Just reading the lyrics, I am puking. blackcrowflies Dec 2014 #157
I seem to recall a really bad video in 2008 too Recursion Dec 2014 #161
Hmmm...I am reading mixed reports on this. Rex Dec 2014 #165
CDS. Metric System Dec 2014 #169
If this is what it takes to break through to the solid south, so be it. pnwmom Dec 2014 #166
That can't touch the crap I got to listen to 6 to 8 hours daily at my former job IDemo Dec 2014 #167

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
22. You're a lot tougher than I
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 02:30 PM
Dec 2014

After the first couple "strokes on the strings" and the youngsters that were "bill/hill" yuck...I had to EXIT

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
149. A perfect, revolting illustration of what elections have become in this country.
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 02:55 PM
Dec 2014


Not a word about policy. Just a slick, emotionally based advertising campaign.

That it's crude and insulting and tone deaf as hell is actually less disturbing than the fact that this whole format of vapid patriotic slogans and glossy, Madison Avenue images is what passes for POLITICAL advertising today.

We have corporate rulers now, and they have replaced the very concept of elections as important civic events in which we carefully choose public servants to represent our policy goals, with these golssy, insulting pageants.

That's what corporate rule means: the replacement of representative democracy with corporatism.
Instead of an elections process ensure the people's will is represented in government, we get corporate hucksters manipulating us to sell their agenda for profit.

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
150. Well, Cute, Empty Campaign Nothings
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 03:22 PM
Dec 2014

won't work on Us (my friends/family) this time

I have come to the conclusion that a Majority of Congress in Both party's have simply evolved into being Nothing more than administrators of Corporate Rule.

Given the low turn-out, election after election-apparently the Non-Voters are perfectly "ok" with allowing a minority of crazies to choose for all.
We, the electorate basically and en masse' are "ok" with "their" selections and subsequent consequences, apparently because "we" are Still not coming out to vote.
Not voting is Still an endorsement of the status quo.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
2. This is what's going to happen
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 02:20 PM
Dec 2014

Hillary will try to appeal to white NASCAR voters in the next election.

She will run away from the black dude in the White House, Barack Obama. She will buy into the narrative that he's a weak, effeminate latte-sipping liberal who doesn't really love his country and is weak on foreign policy.

Just watch.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
23. I remember how shocked I was back in 2008 that she was running
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 02:30 PM
Dec 2014

a dig whistle campaign in the S.C. primary.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
35. I was too a little bit. My Mom was like 'I told you so. Boom!"
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 02:41 PM
Dec 2014

After welfare reform my mom told me Bill was a shit and Hillary was worse. She's so bad at hiding it; I have no idea why she's thinks it's not noticed.
I think she thinks she can win because we have no choice but to vote for her. If she plays her same little games, she'll lose to an unknown again. There no turns in politics anymore. Fuck turns and inevitability, the world is changing.

chrisa

(4,524 posts)
148. And then she'll lose.
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 02:32 PM
Dec 2014

I don't think Hillary is electable anyways, but she's bound to do what she always did before - betray her own party and pander to the lowest common denominator in American politics: emotion and rhetoric. These are the dog whistling, chest beating, war loving, conspiracy-buying, pseudo-populist hacks who yell "under god!" during the pledge of allegiance, who think that the ACLU is a terrorist organization because they heard it on The O'Reilly Factor, and who think that everything should be "Jesus-ified" by law and/or force.

A Hillary vs. Jeb 2016 run would be an absolute nightmare. Hillary encompasses everything that is wrong with Washington: an incestuous inner-circle of billionaires who have a "I've got mine, so screw you all" mentality. Hillary vs. Jeb was suck because, no matter who won, we would get a conservative hawk who loves them some war and isn't afraid to tell any lie to make a war happen.

samsingh

(17,599 posts)
4. it will completely destroy the gop if we make inroads into the nascar crowd
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 02:21 PM
Dec 2014

all their what I believe to be disgusting attempts at voter suppression and congressional lines were based on Obama being in office. He had a more specific support base that allowed them to do this. Now with Arkansas folks running, those house strongarm district tactics are no longer relevant.

it would destroy the gop.

embrace the nascar crowd. give them something to think about.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
6. that's not what's happening. quite the contrary.
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 02:22 PM
Dec 2014

and this sure as hell won't work. and you'll never get enough of them- not to mention that she runs the risk of turning off the AA community.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
93. Because every voter
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 11:19 PM
Dec 2014

likes to be grouped, stereotyped and pandered to as though that stereotype is the sum total of their political views, right?

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
107. This crappy video won't make any inroads with the "nascar crowd"
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 01:43 AM
Dec 2014

First of all, it was gruesomely, almost painfully, awful. The music was mediocre and the words sappy and saccharine. It's not "country music", believe me. I'm from Bakersfield and I know.

Secondly, the nascar crowd as you call them, has been hearing for 25 years from rush limbaugh and other idiots on the radio how hillary clinton is the most liberal person on the face of the planet and she's coming for their guns. One amateurish video won't change their minds.

What this piece of crap will do instead is convince black voters that hillary clinton just plain does not give a shit about them. Of course they won't vote republican, but if she keeps up such obvious pandering to the hick demographic, and keeps trashing the country's first african american president, she can expect a pretty dismal turnout among black voters.

She's not gonna win over any rednecks but she needs the black vote. Without it she's toast.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
112. It might win over the demographic that finds Nickelback too edgy and not mainstream enough
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 01:50 AM
Dec 2014

Like "I might like those boys if they didn't have so much cred"

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
154. True, but it may say the Clinton approach still aims to get the other guys voters
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 04:03 PM
Dec 2014

The philosophy is still triangulation--aka--moving toward the other side's position, only this is about emotions rather than ideas, set to music.

And honestly, if that's true it shows the Clintonian approach hasn't changed much, and has completely dismissed the need to feed hunger of the base for a candidate that celebrates traditional Dem values.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
114. Hillary isn't going to win the NASCAR vote.
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 02:09 AM
Dec 2014

They hate her down there just as much as they hate Obama.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
138. You're not going to "embrace"...
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 12:50 PM
Dec 2014

... the NASCAR crowd with this crap, you are going to piss them off. How stupid do you think they are?

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
19. oh my.
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 02:28 PM
Dec 2014

OK, that was hysterical. Worse? Nah. That was spontaneous, non-perfomers. The CW song is just so.... cheesy.

but that is funny.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
86. Yeah, between this and her favorite bible verse, she's REALLY inevitable, now!
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 08:55 PM
Dec 2014

HOLY FUCK YOU CAN PRACTICALLY SMELL THE INEVITABILITY, CANTCHA?

wandy

(3,539 posts)
10. Now that is bad. I kept thinking this was one of those.......
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 02:24 PM
Dec 2014

Bash some Democrat candidate GOP attack adds.

Sure hope the DNC looses this type of thing right quick.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
66. That will have the same effect as
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 05:22 PM
Dec 2014

Mike Dukakis in the tank and John Kerry in the clean room "bunny suit."

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
125. Jame McMurtry just doesn't "get" Hillar-reaganomics???
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 11:39 AM
Dec 2014

You know, trickle down, a rising tide, NAFTA, let's help India and Mexico and we'll feel better, war war war, Walmart Hillary Clinton?

She is the model of "we got to join them to fight them" assholery.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,183 posts)
39. Sorry. You've seen it. You can't unsee it.
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 02:48 PM
Dec 2014

That said, she's just doing what all politicians so -- find a demographic that looks ripe for tapping, and tap away. Just be thankful that there aren't a large number of votes to be had from the coprophilic segment of registered voters, or you'd REALLY see some strange commercials (from all sides).

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
42. That's fine with me.
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 02:52 PM
Dec 2014

But her pandering is obvious and she is neglecting portions of the base that vote for Democrats without the stupid videos. Portions of the base that are not well liked by the conservatives she is trying to pull. Seems like she's willing to let us go in exchange for getting them. Fine with me. It will make the primary much more interesting with her pandering to the right.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,183 posts)
46. All true, but I imagine we'll get used to it.
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 03:06 PM
Dec 2014

There's lots of pandering still to do between now and 2016.

nolabear

(41,987 posts)
27. They just can't quit her.
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 02:33 PM
Dec 2014

Country, hell. That's an appeal to the gay cowboy fantasy if ever I've seen one. And I approve this message!

Rowdyboy

(22,057 posts)
28. This stuff is what passes for serious discussion on a political website today...
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 02:33 PM
Dec 2014

Make me long for the days of substantive issues like Gary Hart on the "Monkey Business" or Ed Muskie tearing up over insuts directed at his wife.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
33. oh bullshit. I have, for instance
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 02:37 PM
Dec 2014

posted dozens of in-depth substantive posts about the TPP, drone warfare and on and on. And dozens of substantive posts appear daily here. I posted an OP last week about how difficult it's going to be for Hillary to thread the needle- appealing both to the AA community and working class white voters.

Rowdyboy

(22,057 posts)
40. If this is truly the outrage de jour then you're scraping the bottom of the barrel....
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 02:49 PM
Dec 2014

Post anything and everything you like whenever you like, that's what DU is for. But don't expect every half-baked middle-school criticism to be taken seriously. Drone warfare is a serious issue-bad country videos are just irrelevant bullshit. In 10 years which will people give a damn about? How many innocent kids did bad country videos ever kill?



 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
43. All you have to do - is not click on the thread, trash the thread, whatever. Not difficult.
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 02:56 PM
Dec 2014

Most of us are just having a giggle. Obviously, we are not the audience.

Rowdyboy

(22,057 posts)
45. And miss out on the outrage (and the video)? No way!
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 03:06 PM
Dec 2014

That's why I've never had anyone on ignore in 12 years at DU-its way too much fun watching people take themselves over-seriously.

And the two inane instances I referenced (Hart and Muskie) actually were career-ending for those guys. I don't think this video is going to end anyone's career (except maybe Miguel Orozco who wrote and produced it).

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
96. No, here are some of the real outrages du jour:
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 11:32 PM
Dec 2014

Kerry puts brakes on torture report
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025916328

Obama Ready to Defy Base in Order to Advance Trans-Pacific Partnership
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025911398

War Without Authorization but Secretary of State John Kerry Vows "As Long As It Takes.'
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025912332


Have you posted about those yet?

This thread is, perhaps, a break from those revolting outrages, although IMO any thread about Hillary's candidacy carries some nausea with it, because if the Third Way succeeds in making her our nominee, they will have succeeded in ensuring many, many more corporate/neocon/MIC/police state outrages along those lines, no matter which party gains power.




Rowdyboy

(22,057 posts)
103. Those are real issues with serious consequences. Have I posted about them? I rarely start threads
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 01:10 AM
Dec 2014

of any sort these days and have only posted 64 times total in the last 3 months-primarily because of health problems that are entirely irrelevant to this thread and discussion. What difference does that make?

Anyone can post anything they like on DU-I have no problem with that. Anyone can also respond as they see fit-that's exactly what I did.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
97. RowdyBoy
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 11:41 PM
Dec 2014

That video was a giant cocktail of pandering, simpering and condescension. I applaud your commitment to getting Hillary elected, even if I don't share that vision.

That said, that video was absolutely embarrassing. I'm nearly embarrassed FOR HRC supporters.

Rowdyboy

(22,057 posts)
108. Woah, woah woah. Fullstop. You are implying something I never said, either here or ANYWHERE on DU
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 01:46 AM
Dec 2014

No, I do not share the distain (and outright hatred) of Hillary Clinton that so many here do. But to the best of my memory I have never committed to any candidate this cycle. It would be pretty stupid since there aren't any yet. But if the Democratic field in 2016 is as expected I'll likely vote for O'Malley in the Mississippi primary. In 2008 I voted Edwards in our primary. But in both elections it was my stated intention to eventually support whichever candidate the party nominates (and that certainly includes Secretary Clinton) and I did-just like I've voted for every Democratic nominee since 1976. That's who I am-I knew I was a Democrat before I knew I was gay.

You can't necessarily equate defending a political figure with supporting that person for president. That's a bit too much of a leap.

And yes I understand that the party has degenerated into a pathetic caricature of itself but its too firmly embedded in my DNA at this point to change.





Rowdyboy

(22,057 posts)
134. None taken. Quite honestly my mind isn't made up yet and she's certainly someone I'll strongly
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 12:40 PM
Dec 2014

consider if I'm around to vote in 2016.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
29. At least she could've gotten Garth or McGraw to do the video - Ya know some liberal country star
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 02:33 PM
Dec 2014

with name recognition. And a great voice.

delta17

(283 posts)
90. Tim McGraw released a song called Truck Yeah.
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 11:03 PM
Dec 2014

I think he is a good guy, and I'm glad he is on our side, but as an artist he will release whatever is selling at the time.

Jason Isbell is the real face of good country, and he wrote at least one song protesting the Iraq war.

https://m.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
34. Will she be wearing a cowboy hat to the inauguration?
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 02:41 PM
Dec 2014

Will Okie from Muskogee replace Hail to the Chief?

 

LawDeeDah

(1,596 posts)
63. I wonder if another one of her accents will sprout with that cowboy hat.
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 05:13 PM
Dec 2014

jeeeze, I forgot how lame this one was:

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
36. Why not? Jeb's out courting the Florida Cuban base
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 02:41 PM
Dec 2014

and He's sure to parade his hispanic wife & kids.
There are actually Dem donors in the circle of Country Music voters, & why shouldn't a Dem candidate go country?
Gop has a huge Country following BUT they don't have exclusive rights.

Been seeing the same shmoozing from the Bush Crime Family..Books, interviews that just happen to be appearing just befgore Jeb announces his Pres run.
Softening the image of the Bush Criminals is all a big PR Marketing deal.
So why shouldn't Hillary?
Like her, or hate her ever livin guts, Jeb is making his grand entrance & grabbing all the voting groups he can with all the tools he has.

Its marketing. Just like everything this country does anymore.

Between Jeb & Hillary, the Marketing costs for their two campaigns combined are going to unmatched ever in the history of campaigning. All added together.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
117. Really. Not a great song but hits on issues that Warren herself promotes.
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 02:30 AM
Dec 2014

Life issues that are relevant to human beings well being. The video in the OP is solely about the political aspirations of ONE human being.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
49. Goodness! A politically themed advertisement from a PAC targeting a demographic... the horrors.
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 03:11 PM
Dec 2014

Goodness! A politically themed advertisement from a PAC targeting a demographic... the horrors. The horrors.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
52. Outrageous!1!1!
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 03:42 PM
Dec 2014

Ok. Not really.

"This does not bode well for anyone hoping the coming campaigns will tone down the rhetoric."

I don't want the rhetoric toned down. That is why I like a fighter.

Still though, I completely get your outrage.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
53. you still have to laugh at Mitt's mic handling.
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 03:43 PM
Dec 2014

Politics is a game for the politicos even though its life and death for us citizens .

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
61. this is highly unlikely to appeal to the target while turning off people she needs
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 04:54 PM
Dec 2014

not her fault, of course. Someone did it on her behalf.

Proud Public Servant

(2,097 posts)
58. So aside from the fact that my ears are bleeding...
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 04:36 PM
Dec 2014

Why should I support Hillary? Because the country was more united in the 90s -- you know, when Congress hated the president enough to impeach him? Or because she's "a wife a mother, and used to be a First Lady" -- which you could also say of Laura Bush, Nancy Reagan, and Zombie Bess Truman?

Yep, Stand Up with Hillary, because she stands for...

stands for...

um...

Guys? We're gonna need a second song...

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
59. LOL True! I think what she stands for depends on the day & her audience, though.
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 04:42 PM
Dec 2014

Recently, it was polar opposites on the same day! She's like a Gecko. She changes colors to blend in.

 

LawDeeDah

(1,596 posts)
62. What a hilarious display of Patheticism.
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 04:57 PM
Dec 2014

What the hell is wrong with her team/surrogates/supporters with cash to do this? They seem to be as dense as they were in 2008.


I feel bad for the people that like Hillary, well, just a tiny bit.

True Blue Door

(2,969 posts)
64. Excited about 2016 yet, folks?
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 05:16 PM
Dec 2014

I can't wait for the one she emphasizes her association with George W. Bush, and brags about voting for the Iraq War.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
85. I feel my excitement all the way down to the lower portion of my bowels.
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 08:53 PM
Dec 2014

Now if you'll excuse me, I'll be in my office.

 

LawDeeDah

(1,596 posts)
65. This will remind people she once said she is not the kind to Stand by yer man type
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 05:19 PM
Dec 2014

when the rumors were flying of his screwing around. She said it was a vast right wing conspiracy and no truth to it.

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
67. Not surprised. I remember (as an Obama delegate)
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 05:24 PM
Dec 2014

the tactics they used when they turned to my native south.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
71. Good news, everyone! The team behind that PAC plan at least 4 more pro-Hillary music videos
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 05:39 PM
Dec 2014

"with one aimed at Latinos and another aimed at millennials".

In a phone interview, Chavez told Fusion he and Orozco wanted to create a group that could promote Clinton to working-class people, young people, and Latinos. The group kicked off with a country ballad to appeal to men, who he says, like him, should be inspired by Clinton.
...
He said he hasn’t seen any of the reaction yet on social media, most of which has been some variation of tweets like these:

"2016 Is Going To Be Stupid and This Awful Hillary Clinton Video Is Exhibit A"

"I used to love Hillary but then I saw this video and now I have questions about Vince Foster’s death."

"The way you guys feel about that Hillary video right now is the way I feel when Republicans act like they know rap music"

http://fusion.net/story/31558/hillary-clinton-country-music-video-stand-with/


 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
80. Oh, thank you - I can't stop laughing!
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 08:49 PM
Dec 2014

Awwww, don't we old folks- Hillary's age - get a musical video?
Actually, it is so very fucking depressing to think a musical video could snag votes.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
121. We Millennials almost all universally LOATH $hillary.
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 05:05 AM
Dec 2014

Mark my word, if she is the nominee the turnout for Millennials is going to be worse than it was this year.

tavernier

(12,393 posts)
72. I didn't think it was so bad...
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 05:44 PM
Dec 2014

But then again country music makes me want to shove a a toilet brush in one ear and pull it out the other... so perhaps I'm not a good judge.

At least he didn't yodel or make a dog or truck reference.

Autumn

(45,111 posts)
73. They missed a golden opportunity, didn't Buddy get hit by a car?
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 07:19 PM
Dec 2014
that should have been good for a couple of votes

Autumn

(45,111 posts)
81. No country song is worth a shit without a dog, and a dead one is the best
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 08:51 PM
Dec 2014

if it got ran over by a train... that's pure gold.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
118. Well, if yoy play country music backwards, you get your dog back,
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 02:32 AM
Dec 2014

you get your truck back, you get your wife back and you quit drinking.

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
76. Any republican 2016!
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 08:03 PM
Dec 2014

That's what this video (and all of the others to come) will get us.

Election of Clinton in the primary decides the general election for whichever Republican runs.

 

LawDeeDah

(1,596 posts)
89. Stand Up with Hillary, Lay Down with Bill.
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 10:52 PM
Dec 2014

Hillary has got to have some of the most awkward and dense people doing promo for her. My Gawd.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
91. Dear Lord
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 11:17 PM
Dec 2014

That song and video could curdle milk.

This is EXACTLY how you show how out of touch you are with voters. She's as bad as Mitt Romney with not having a clue how to reach out to voters.

Tone deaf. Ridiculously tone deaf, and I'm not just saying this because I want someone other than Hillary in the primaries, I'm saying it because if you are so narcissistic that you hire some country musician to sing the praises of your name to get elected - uh, you are going about politics the wrong damn way.

I honestly thought that she was more savvy than this, but apparently she in Mitt need to get together and go bowling.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
92. A sledgehammer?
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 11:18 PM
Dec 2014

Seems oddly appropriate.





Hillary Clinton's leading role in drafting the TPP
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101667554

Hillary Clinton and Trade Deals: That “Giant Sucking Sound”
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016101761

Hillary Clinton Cheerleads for Biotech and GMOs
http://www.democraticunderground.com/112772326

Dissecting Hillary Clinton's Neocon Talking Points - Atlantic Interview
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017209519

NYTimes notices Hillary's natural affinity toward the neocons.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025205645

Hillary Clinton, the unrepentant hawk
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024876898

More from Hillary Clinton's State Department: The fascistic TISA (Trade in Services Agreement)
http://m.thenation.com/blog/180572-grassroots-labor-uprising-your-bank

How Hillary Clinton's State Department sold fracking to the world
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251376647

Hillary Clinton Sides with NSA over Snowden Disclosures
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101695441

On the NSA, Hillary Clinton Is Either a Fool or a Liar
http://m.thenation.com/article/180564-nsa-hillary-clinton-either-fool-or-liar

Corporate Warfare: Hillary Clinton admits role in Honduran coup aftermath
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025601610#post29

The Bill and Hillary Clinton Money Machine Taps Corporate Cash
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025189257

Hillary's Privatization Plan: TISA kept more secret than the TPP
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014829628

Hillary Clinton criticizes Obama's foreign policy 'failure'; strongly defends Israel
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014867136

Some of Hillary Clinton's statements on Social Security.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024379279

Hillary Clinton's GOLDMAN SACHS PROBLEM.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025049343

Ring of Fire: Hillary Clinton - The Perfect Republican Candidate
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017209285

How Americans Need Answers From Hillary Clinton On TPP, KXL, Wall St & More
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017181611

Hillary Clinton Left Out By Liberal Donor Club
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025809071

Why Wall Street Loves Hillary
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016106575

Hillary Clinton: Neocon-lite
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101684986

Interactive graphic of Hillary Clinton's connections to the Forbes top 400 (Follow link in post)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025824981#post9


NRaleighLiberal

(60,015 posts)
100. hard as I try, I can't come up with the words to describe the horror of it all
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 12:19 AM
Dec 2014

or is it pure comedy gold?

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
104. Three words: Cookie Baking Mom
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 01:16 AM
Dec 2014

Hillary made her big mistake way back when her husband was President. Instead of fighting for her vision (health care reform), she cowed to what she thought people wanted - "the cookie baking Mom". And over the years she kept on doing it. "War Hawk Hillary" is just another manifestation of the phenomenon - it's a response to criticism that she might not have the War Chops to be President. Now this is a response to the idea she might not have the White Male Southern Populist Appeal to be President.

Hillary lost my vote the hard way because I really wanted her to be the first woman President. This country needs the first woman President.

Hillary needs to Get a Life.

I mean that literally.

Had Hillary taken a position in life, taken a stand, and just been that person, she would have been the first female President.

Instead she has just molded herself to every critic, turned chameleon colors in response to every challenge. One begins to wonder if there is any Hillary Clinton at all.

It is impossible to vote for her with a clear conscience because there is no way to know who you are really voting for.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
105. Well, country fans can be accustomed to being pandered to.
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 01:18 AM
Dec 2014

Exhibit 1: the Australian guy with the fake southern accent

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
106. No
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 01:33 AM
Dec 2014

Nice of you to think of us and pass on that thingy to play, but somehow I just can't make the time... but thanks anyway.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
110. WHAT IS HER FAVORITE BIBLE VERSE? CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME? I NEED TO KNOW!
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 01:46 AM
Dec 2014

HER CANDIDACY WILL NOT BE COMPLETE UNTIL SHE STAKES OUT A POSITION ON ISSUES THAT MATTER TO AMERICA, LIKE WHAT HER FAVORITE BIBLE VERSE IS

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
124. This is good.
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 07:52 AM
Dec 2014

If you're in touch with fellow Americans you would know that this would appeal to a broad group of people in the South. Clinton might actually be able to get Texas.

Of course, to appeal to another group, who you don't hate, but want to work with, is considered pandering this day and age.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
137. No, it's awful, and it's insulting to the people she's trying to win over
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 12:45 PM
Dec 2014

It just shows how low her opinion really is of rural Americans that she believes they could be swayed by such childish lyrics and mediocre musicianship.

Listen, I live in the Appalachia of California. These people are my neighbors and while I disagree with them on many issues that aren't stupid. They know when they are being patronized and that's exactly what this piece of crap does.

And they aren't the only ones who will be offended by it. What are black voters supposed to think? She's already come out and trashed the country's first African American president. Her 2008 campaign engaged in some questionable and divisive racial tactics. Now she produces a campaign video proclaiming her love for rednecks.

There's only two possibilities. Either Hillary Clinton is getting some godawful advice from somebody or she's utterly out of touch with most of America. She needs black voters to be elected and she has no chance of picking up the rural white vote.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
160. She didn't make it, some fans did.
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 06:25 AM
Dec 2014

So invariably some fans like it. There are a lot of other videos posted here like that of other candidates in this thread. I wouldn't trash any of them. Yet there's continual mocking because those people are actually part of the political process and they are actually out there doing canvasing and campaign work.

If some people feel "patronized" by a damn fan video they are really pathetic.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
141. I don't have to do anything further
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 01:03 PM
Dec 2014

than walk out of my front door to get in touch with my fellow Americans here in the South. Don't imply with a broad brush that we are all stupid enough to see this as genuine.

I mean, really, joshcryer? Do you *honestly* think you know more about "people in the South" than ... "people in the South" - many of which are also in this thread expressing how ridiculously bad this video is?

You pretty much preached to "people in the South" what appeals to "people in the South". You are telling us what we are like, while simultaneously identifying yourself as not being in that group.

You might want to stop doing that in the future because "people in the South" don't like it when a "person not in the South" does that.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
159. I have a thick southern accent.
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 06:22 AM
Dec 2014

I don't know what you're talking about. I was born and raised in the south and spent a good half of my life there.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
163. Well obviously you aren't here now
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 12:09 PM
Dec 2014

We are anything but stupid, and you would have to be stupid to take that cheesy video seriously. Everyone that has seen it has either cringed or laughed themselves silly.

I applaud your attempts to support Hillary in all things, but come on! Every politician/political operative has a misstep every now and then - this one is the one the manager of this PAC made.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
164. Not everything is about "perfect steps."
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 02:35 PM
Dec 2014

About manipulating and strategizing about various things.

The video was obviously done by fans of Clinton and they paid some guy to do it. It's not a big deal, and those who will appreciate it will do so, and those who will snark will do so.

You don't have to be "stupid" to appreciate the music.

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
126. I might be willing to "Stand with Hillary" if only she would show signs of
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 11:47 AM
Dec 2014

"Standing with Us". nt

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
127. Well, I hope it works for her....
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 11:48 AM
Dec 2014

because she and hubby lost a lot of black votes from what they did in the 2008 election, showing their racism. And, the black community was paying attention.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
129. The article did not mention which pac put this out, I would check the sources of the article and the
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 11:51 AM
Dec 2014

company which did the video. Sounds as false as the other bs I read here.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
131. Yes it did: "a news release from the Stand With Hillary PAC"
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 12:10 PM
Dec 2014

They give the link to the PAC's site too: http://www.swh2016.com/

You've been on DU for 3 and a half years, over 8,000 posts and you just dismiss DU as 'false BS'?

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
135. The link given in the post states Stand Up With Hillary, her pac is Stand With Hillary,
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 12:42 PM
Dec 2014

the video is by sonalio.com, this is the correct link to the Stand With Hillary is:

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/trending/Country-music-video-heaps-praise-on-Hillary-Clinton.html#giwkp01do6RkZmGK.99

now my question is why this one was posted as being from Stand With Hillary?

yes I have been here three years and when I see crap it is easily recognized.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
140. That is the link given in the post; it does NOT state "Stand Up With Hillary"
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 12:56 PM
Dec 2014

as the name of the PAC. The only instance of "stand up with Hillary" in it is in the lyric quoted: "now it’s time for us to stand up with Hillary" and the title of the video, not the name of the PAC.

How many more mistakes are you going to make, and then to continue to call other people's posts 'crap' when they're correct, and yours are wrong?

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
142. Look on the top left side of the video, look at the bottom and you will see sanalio.com as the
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 01:07 PM
Dec 2014

producer of the video. This sounds like a RW attempt to destroy a Democrat, it is too easy to find this is also a video on yortube. Did you follow the link I provided? this would be the correct one. Someone has hacked the correct one.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
144. The link you gave is the link in the OP
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 01:24 PM
Dec 2014

Of course I followed it - I quoted from the philly.com article. The 'top left side of the video' is the title of the YouTube video - which I pointed out in #140. Are you not reading my posts before replying?

You first claimed in #129 "The article did not mention which pac put this out". That is false. I quoted from the article in #131: "a news release from the Stand With Hillary PAC" (and that's how you should already have known I followed the link, though your failure to read "a news release from the Stand With Hillary PAC" seems to shows that you had not followed it). Did you not even read the title of my post before replying to it? The link you 'provided' is the link in the OP. It's what everyone here has been using.

'sanalio.com' is not the 'producer' of the video. It is someone who has put a copy up on YouTube. The producer of the video is the Stand With Hillary PAC, as has been made abundantly clear. You may think the video is awful (a lot of people do), but the PAC is run by people who seem to be genuine Democrats - Miguel Orozco and Daniel Chavez.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
145. Go bach to the original post, watch the video provided, look at the picture included in
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 01:37 PM
Dec 2014

the post, you will find the information I have provided. It is a poor quality video, lip sink is off, either cali's post has been hacked or it is not correct.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
146. Just correct your false "The article did not mention which pac put this out" claim in #129
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 02:11 PM
Dec 2014

That's all I'm asking of you now. You are incapable of holding a conversation on this; but just get rid of the first bit of rubbish you said. After that, you've just been flailing about, not reading my posts, and trying to look as if you read the OP too. I don't care too much about that; just correct the initial bollocks you typed. Is that too much to ask?

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
147. Okay, when I look at the video it is not a Hillary pac, I doubt if many saw
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 02:19 PM
Dec 2014

what I saw and knew it was bs. It also said Stand with Hillary and the video had Stand Up with Hillary.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
151. So you leave your false "the article did not mention which pac put this out" there, though you know
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 03:27 PM
Dec 2014

it's wrong and misleading? Why? Why have you so little respect for the truth? Just fix it. Remember, it's the article you called 'bs', and DU in general, not the video.

And, of course, you alerted on the OP. Luckily, 6 of the jury saw through your bullshit. Unluckily, the 7th doesn't like cali, so you didn't get a 7-0 vote against you that would have prevented you from alerting for 24 hours.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
153. yes i did alert on this, the video has been hacked, I can admit my error, can you
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 04:03 PM
Dec 2014

Admit the video on the post is a lie or dies your need for honesty only go so far. The post is incorrect and I could see through the crap right away, why the others could not see the error is on them, it was misleading and in fact I am surprised Cali did not see through this one, but l am nit sure Stand up with Hillary or Stand with Hillary are true Hillary pacs, I am quiet familiar with Ready for Hillary is a true pac so maybe the lie is still on others. Check it out, no sites for either two names with any base. Yep lies.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
155. The video is not a 'lie'; the visuals are just run at double speed
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 04:24 PM
Dec 2014

and so, half way through, the video freezes on a frame. The audio is the same as the one on philly.com and the swh2016.com site. There's nothing 'dishonest' about it. The post is not 'incorrect' in any way. There's no 'crap' there. There's no error. It's not misleading.

How do you define a 'true' Hillary site? I already linked to this, but I don't suppose for a moment you bothered reading it:

The music video is the work of a pro-Clinton group called Stand With Hillary, which launched recently and is one of a handful of independent so-called “super PACs” seeking to boost Clinton’s potential campaign.

The group is based in Camarillo, California, and run by Daniel Chavez, a longtime Democratic operative who worked on Clinton’s 2008 campaign and in the administration of former President Bill Clinton.

http://fusion.net/story/31558/hillary-clinton-country-music-video-stand-with/


'Ready For Hillary' has the normal disclaimer "Not Authorized by any Candidate or Candidate's Committee". The only thing that makes any pro-Hillary PAC 'true' is whether the people running it support her; Chavez has a known track-record of doing so.

No, it's not 'lies'. If you claim to be admitting your error, then correct them (you have made many 'errors', as has been pointed out). All you have done here is cast doubt on a genuinely pro-Hillary PAC, without evidence, and criticiseda copy of a video with the pictures run at double speed.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
156. You know this is not the video on the link, anyones eyes and ears can see the difference.
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 04:45 PM
Dec 2014

One video has stand up with Hillary the other has stand with Hillary. The video on the post is one posted on YouTube with sanalio.com which is the same as YouTube, the one in the link does not have this. It apparently has both been posted as Hillary videos but doesn't say they have been authorized by Hillary since she does not have her own Pac and will not until she declares her candidacy. Where in the hell are the dumb videos coming? Got any idea. It I the san
Me old trash and bash but they do not change facts.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,754 posts)
130. I had to shut it off.
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 12:02 PM
Dec 2014

All the dogs in the neighborhood were howling; my cats hid under the bed; and the gin in my liquor cabinet had started to curdle. That was weapons-grade , industrial-strength terrible.

Hillary seems to have problems hiring good PR people - she hired that gawdawful creep Mark Penn in '08 and he was a total disaster. If this video is any indication of what's to come, Penn would be an improvement.

demmiblue

(36,865 posts)
133. AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 12:17 PM
Dec 2014

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service

Mail Message
On Sat Dec 6, 2014, 11:04 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

yikes. what are they thinking? Hillary PAC puts out country music vid "Stand with Hillary"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025915201

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

the link to the video goes to a foreign site, pac is Stand Up With Hillary, her pac is Stand With Hillary, true link is http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/trending/Country-music-video-heaps-praise-on-Hillary-Clinton.html#giwkp01do6RkZmGK.99

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sat Dec 6, 2014, 11:15 AM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Don't want to add an explanation. Correct the record in the thread, not by alerting.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Then ask the OP to get a better link.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This is not alert worthy. Leave the correct link/video in the comments. Honestly, I think this alert is just a mere attempt to get Cali's post hidden.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Sorry, I can't vote to hide. Alerter's true link 'giwkp01 etc.' is included in the alerted-on post.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Are you fucking kidding with this alert?
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Cali, do your homework on your Hillary hate.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
152. You know what the sad truth is?
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 03:34 PM
Dec 2014

In a week where the Black community, the ones who embraced Clinton so much, could use a pick me up, who gets the music video loves?

The same country folk that love the GOP
The same rural folk that sent Alison Grimes, Charlie Crist, and many Clinton style democrats packing.
The same rural folks that put Mitch McConell back in charge.

I mean, they coudl have easily made a cheap video with adobe that could have gotten a million hits on you tube
They easily could have recutied someone like Beyonce to do a vidoe with her music.
Or even a local Gospel group.

NO.

The bottom line is, we are the stepchildren. The Clintons know they need minorities. They know we do the heavy lifting that the rural folk keep promising to do, but never do.

All the same, we are not the beloved ones. The only thing is that we know UNCLE GOP would just as soon put us in a sack and drown us like kittens.

But the Clintons think the mere absence of outright abuse is love.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
165. Hmmm...I am reading mixed reports on this.
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 02:36 PM
Dec 2014

Some are saying it was a failure and others are saying it was a smashing success. I guess we will see in 2016.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
166. If this is what it takes to break through to the solid south, so be it.
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 02:43 PM
Dec 2014

I don't get country music, but I don't get most of the southern culture. Unfortunately, it is almost impossible to win the Presidency if a Democrat doesn't break through in at least a couple of those states -- and our recent elections make the situation look very grim.

Obviously, her stand on the issues will be what matters the most, everywhere in the country. But any candidate who simply turns up her nose at the southern culture can expect to be defeated.

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
167. That can't touch the crap I got to listen to 6 to 8 hours daily at my former job
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 03:00 PM
Dec 2014

Commercial top 25 country is a legitimate form of torture:

Example:

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