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madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 02:11 AM Dec 2014

What happened to this Mom and her day old baby is scary stuff.

This just upset me so much when I read it. There was absolutely no reason for all this to happen.

Mother Loses Newborn Baby After She Is Wrongly Accused of Being on Drugs

The hospital’s reasons for believing Langwell was on drugs were all conjecture. They said that she was “hostile” when she wanted to check out early, that she packed containers that looked like they held pills, that she and her mother and the baby’s father were all shaky and irritable, and that Langwell refused a drug test while she was in labor (Langwell told Calhoun she was concerned about the cost since they were paying for the hospital out of pocket). In other words, the hospital and CPS declared Langwell to have a substance abuse issue until the point she could prove she didn’t.

Like a growing number of mothers in America, Langwell was guilty until proven innocent.

What Langwell underwent is a growing concern in the United States as mothers are being more strictly examined and children are being removed from homes at a rapid clip. Just as “personhood” style laws are jailing women who are pregnant under the guise of protecting the fetus to ensure a safe and healthy birth, mothers are being scrutinized and examined more closely than ever to protect a baby or child from being harmed by their own parents.

....That was exactly what happened to Langwell, who found CPS at her door the next day to remove her newborn and place the baby with a foster family for the child’s own “safety.” Despite agreeing to an on the spot drug test, which the agency said had “inconclusive” results because her saliva was too thick, CPS took her new baby to a hospital to do a drug test on the infant there, via inserting a catheter. That effort failed.


That's horrible. I would be a little irritable as well after 2 days of contractions.

This Mom Checked Her Newborn Out of the Hospital Early. The Next Day Her Baby Was Taken Away.



Langwell had been having contractions for two days when she told her fiancé at 11:30 p.m. that it was time to head to Desert Regional Medical Center, which she'd chosen because it allowed rooming-in and she didn't want the baby to leave her side. Once there, she asked for an epidural, but by the time everything was in place for her to receive one, it was too late. She delivered the baby naturally at 2:34 a.m., and around noon was put in a room with two other new mothers and their babies, including one who Langwell says kept talking loudly on her cellphone.

Later that afternoon, Langwell decided to check out and go home. Langwell said the baby was breastfeeding well and was healthy, and she preferred to take her home early "AMA" (against medical advice) so they could all get some sleep. When she left, a member of the hospital's staff called and reported her to the county's child welfare agency.


"Desert Regional Medical Center takes very seriously its commitment to the health of mothers and infants in our care," Richard A. Ramhoff, the hospital's marketing director, told Cosmopolitan.com, after saying that the hospital could not comment specifically on Langwell's case. "As mandated by state law, the hospital calls the County of Riverside Department of Public Social Services hotline when staff believe the situation warrants a referral. This reporting is not done lightly. Our staff reviews the details of each situation individually before fulfilling our responsibility to refer a case to child protective services for further review."
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What happened to this Mom and her day old baby is scary stuff. (Original Post) madfloridian Dec 2014 OP
Richard A. Ramhoff I call BS Kalidurga Dec 2014 #1
That's the way I interpreted it. Renew Deal Dec 2014 #9
that will teach women to leave early! Liberal_in_LA Dec 2014 #15
They wanted to pad the bill Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #2
It's unbelievable they took her baby away. madfloridian Dec 2014 #4
it's very believable Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #5
No, that's not really it. Warpy Dec 2014 #6
Very Orwellian. pacalo Dec 2014 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Dec 2014 #7
That was my first thought. madfloridian Dec 2014 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Dec 2014 #16
They claimed she was "hostile"? Jesus H. Christ! countryjake Dec 2014 #8
Agree. Seems more like child abuse than child protection. madfloridian Dec 2014 #11
Slouching toward the police state. n/t Comrade Grumpy Dec 2014 #12
Count me among the disgusted Savannahmann Dec 2014 #13
K&R me b zola Dec 2014 #14

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
1. Richard A. Ramhoff I call BS
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 02:22 AM
Dec 2014

A patient left and it cost the hospital money since she left early. If it wasn't for that bottom line, I doubt she would have received this much concern over her welfare.

 

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)
2. They wanted to pad the bill
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 03:11 AM
Dec 2014

and she got annoyed - rightfully so

then they retaliated against her

situation normal in Fascist America

 

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)
5. it's very believable
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 03:47 AM
Dec 2014

this is what a Fascist system looks like

and if you want to have a home birth and avoid the obscene hospital bills, they'll go after you too:
http://medicalkidnap.com/2014/11/25/breastfed-homebirthed-babies-taken-away-from-parents-for-not-using-hospital/#sthash.75IqVFWv.dpuf

It's called "medical kidnapping" and it's a growing problem.

Warpy

(111,275 posts)
6. No, that's not really it.
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 04:50 AM
Dec 2014

There was a big rumpus a few years ago when insurance companies wanted to discharge women and infants as soon as the baby came out, people calling it "drive by deliveries." A lot of the babies boomeranged back within a day with complications. Now they keep them for at least 24 hours.

Refusing to undergo a tox screen (against the fifth amendment) and going AMA are both red flags and the phone calls to CPS are mandatory. Unfortunately it activated a martinet who just snatched the kid without asking the right questions and certainly without bothering to assess the real situation along with the baby's condition.

When vague questions like these arise about newborns and their families, civilized countries send trained people to check on them periodically to make sure the baby is gaining weight and the mother is healing well. We'd rather just criminalize mothers for being poor and snatch their kids in this country.

It's just another example of how this has turned into a hell for a lot of working people.

I hope this mom sues, but CPS is nearly as unaccountable as the cops are.

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
3. Very Orwellian.
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 03:24 AM
Dec 2014

I hope some smart lawyer reads about her story & offers to put that hospital in check pro bono.

Response to madfloridian (Original post)

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
10. That was my first thought.
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 10:01 AM
Dec 2014

War on drugs even has doctors trembling, fearful of giving medicine to help patients in pain.

Response to madfloridian (Reply #10)

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
8. They claimed she was "hostile"? Jesus H. Christ!
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 06:25 AM
Dec 2014

I would have ended up in jail or shot dead by one of those two cops that "welfare" agent brought along when they confiscated her newborn baby girl, if such a thing had happened to me after I had my daughter.

It seems as tho it was a hundred years ago now, but I also left the hospital early, after I followed the nurse who took my newborn down the hall to have a bilirubin check for jaundice and I watched thru a window the procedures that they performed on my hours-old baby. I took her home just as soon as she was back in my arms and what a relief it was to get us out of that place.

To read that an outrageous travesty of "child protection" such as that took place in California is frightening to me and I certainly hope that Ms. Langwell is able to build some sort of legal case against that Medical facility.

What happened to her family should provide a boost to the services of midwives and home-birthing, at least.

Thanks for sharing this article, madfloridian. The rights of common working people continue to swirl down the drain.

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