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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLouisiana Senator Mary Landrieu loses seat in runoff election: CNN
Last edited Sun Dec 7, 2014, 10:54 AM - Edit history (6)
As someone who lives in New Orleans I must say I enjoyed staying home Sat. The waffles were great. Figure its practice for 2016. I am curious how far down the rabbit hole American voters take us now. I voted for her the first time. Then she backed Keystone. That was the straw. maybe Dems will start running people whose party affiliation is more the just a "D" behind their name. In fact all the other local dems I know had the same attitude. We are all looking at 2016 hard now. No one I know locally will vote 3rd way. To quote Manny "It's pretty @$!#ing clear: we win by being Democrats, not Republicans."
Incumbent Senator Mary Landrieu (D-LA) lost her seat in the U.S. Senate Saturday, falling to Republican Congressman Bill Cassidy in a runoff election, according to CNN.
CNN called the election for Cassidy within a half-hour of the polls closing.
Landrieu, a member of a New Orleans political dynasty, has held the seat since 1996 when she replaced John Bennett Johnston, Jr., also a Democrat.
Landrieu was forced into the runoff after receiving only 42 percent of the vote in the November election, short of the 50.1 percent required for re-election.
In recent weeks Landrieu has frantically campaigned to hold onto her seat, including backing a measure to move forward with the construction of the Keystone XL pipeline, a move popular in her state but at odds with national Democrats.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/12/louisiana-senator-mary-landrieu-loses-senate-seat-in-runoff-election/
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)I'm guessing Sec of State of LA website is the place to go for what data is available, and no exit poll data for crosstabs are posted yet?
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Approve the KXL, wonder what else will happen in the Senate with the election of Cassidy.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)n/t
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)You intentionally not voted in a run-off election, and you sound glad that the Republican beat the Democrat in a US Senatorial election?
Am I reading this right?
Sid
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)In elections and someone like Cassidy gets elected.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Her brother is Major of New Orleans. They have been busy pillaging us for Jindals benefit and state coffers for years. Using that monies to support Jindal's failed economic plans.
Don't give me crap about Mary's "Dem" status.
belzabubba333
(1,237 posts)set agendas etc - not having them gives us republicans and they are not the same
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)JI7
(89,252 posts)Would be the same as a republican doing it ?
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Is going to allow a Democrat to head any committees? Bills gets to the floor to be voted on by the committee they at classified, nothing will come down on the Democrats side, will remain in a committee.
Autumn
(45,107 posts)In no sane Universe are they remotely connected.
JI7
(89,252 posts)Instead of a republican would make a difference.
belzabubba333
(1,237 posts)the koch brothers thank you
merrily
(45,251 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Not a nightmare per se. I would say he's something worse.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)and should be a TOS violation.
Sid
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)I voted for her the first time. Then she backed Keystone. That was the straw.
Maybe if she had distanced herself a little more from Obama or had run a little more to the right she might have met herself.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)You own this bullshit.
Sid
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)So whatever. Guess she should have acted like a dem
Autumn
(45,107 posts)My favorite breakfast. You did good.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Autumn
(45,107 posts)That race was a losing fight anyway.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Thanks!
Autumn
(45,107 posts)Their outrage is fucking stupid. Even the heads of the Democratic party knew she was going to lose and didn't waste any time or money on this run off. But YOU, it's all your fault. Enjoy their outrage.
Autumn
(45,107 posts)about your waffle.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)otohara
(24,135 posts)"I am curious how far down the rabbit hole American voters take us now"?
What voters are you talking about? If you stay home and eat waffles and proudly proclaim you're not voting then shouldn't you're line read "I am curious how far down the rabbit hole American non-voters take us now"?
It didn't take long to find out you're a fan over at the "the conservative cave" site. Seems you like to play both sides too.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)as much as you would like to pretend.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)We got people out in streets for weeks now and the OP couldn't even make it to vote?! Especially for Senator!
JI7
(89,252 posts)Happy with the results
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)in a run-off election.
Sid
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)AGAINST THE FASCIST TEA PARTY AGENDA!
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Being happy that a moderate Democrat, who will vote the Liberal way on bills 70-80% of the time is being replaced by a Tea Party Republican who will vote the Liberal way 0% of the time, and we have lost a seat that will be difficult for us to win again in the next 20-40 years is a toxic sentiment.
It's toxic not just to Democrats getting more seats, it's toxic to the effort to pass any Liberal/Progressive legislation for the next 20-40 years. But to one side of DU, it is a perfectly acceptable sentiment.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)70-80% of the time...lol.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)You are wrong.
TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)for their trouble, they will vote for neutered bills 70 - 80% of the time with the Democrats, not with liberals.
They make sure liberals are frozen out of steering first and foremost, resulting in "our way" being nothing of the sort and actually holding every effort hostage until "our way" is distilled out in favor of the Turd Way.
That said, she was fucking doomed. Don't believe that? Ask the DNC and the money people, they cut her off as good money going after bad and those folks are not "purists" by any stretch, at least not the way it is being used here.
What should and could have been done to save that seat?
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)amendments and support them? And that assumes I agree with your interpretation of Landrieu, and I don't.
Sorry, this doesn't work no matter how you try to spin it.
TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)What is it to work? I don't have a vote here and don't live in the state. I voted and volunteered for my worthless loser of a Turd Way preferred candidate against all inclination and trust who lost in more humiliating fashion despite trying to run to the fucking turtles right than about anyone who has ever gone up against him over the years.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)to support her.
LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)But, I think it is a pretty interesting question: What could or should have been done to save her seat?
JI7
(89,252 posts)Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)so they aren't liberals."
Lol
JI7
(89,252 posts)Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)JI7
(89,252 posts)I think there are many who enjoy the whole outrage and drama.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)dissatisfaction with the candidates we are allowed to vote for. The viable ones are never allowed to get past the gate.
As South Park said it so perfectly. Our choices for voting are always between a Giant Douche or a Turd Sandwich.
JI7
(89,252 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)It appears you think that logic is only for authoritarians.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)On Sun Dec 7, 2014, 06:27 PM an alert was sent on the following post:
Louisiana Senator Mary Landrieu loses seat in runoff election: CNN
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025923345
REASON FOR ALERT
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
ALERTER'S COMMENTS
Bragging about not voting and contributing to Republican victory is repulsive.
You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sun Dec 7, 2014, 06:33 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.
Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Don't care. The election is over. If he had said it before the election, it would be a violation.
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Either you are a Democrat or you are not.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Unfortunately, we have to find SOME way to deal with these idiots. I don't thinking hiding is a good option.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Normally, I would agree with alerter. However, Landrieu's betrayal of the Democratic Party and what it stands for is far more harmful, on balance, than anything members of DU have done. I think it's important to draw attention to these kinds of Democratic charlatans so as to keep this parasitism from metastasizing, and thus, I have to vote to leave.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The person who alerted on this should go ahead and voice his or her opinion out in the open and have the debate, not try to silence someone just because she or he disapproves of what the OP said.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Gloating over the defeat of a Democrat, any Democrat, should have no place on this website.
Congratulations for surviving a jury.
Sid
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Katashi
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Not Democrats, that's for sure.
Sid
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)But what would you know about that?
Only thing you want is blind loyalty to the party.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)And you chose to gloat about making waffles, instead of trying to prevent the Republican from winning.
Sid
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)You say devotion to a party like it's a bad thing.
If you would rather have Cassidy than Landreau as your Senator, then you're on the wrong board.
Sid
treestar
(82,383 posts)to represent your constituents. Political reality, people. Each state is unique.
treestar
(82,383 posts)The ones who can be counted on. I guess that means blind authoritarians who follow party dogma.
Some people have a problem with the concept of a party, period. As if they want to showoff how independent they are first. Well that's good, except no one is going to get elected without somebody else being for it.
Historic NY
(37,451 posts)the hard way. Elections had consequences.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)to expect from experience with Louisiana's other Senator, Republican David Vitter, who is consistently rated as the most conservative member of the US Senate and who votes Liberal 0% of the time.
We're about to get another one of those instead of someone (Landrieu) who votes Liberal 70-80% the time.
I could perhaps have a modicum of understanding for the OP if we didn't have Vitter as a prime, in your face example of what Republican Senators from Louisiana are like.
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,841 posts)PFunk
(876 posts)How about giving then a candidate they actually want to vote for. Just saying.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Do you think Ted Cruz or David Vitter or other Tea Party Republicans have a chance in Massachusetts, New York or California? No, in those states, the Republicans who have a chance are moderate Republicans.
Why do you think this is different in the opposite direction in one of the reddest states in the country? What is the disconnect here with you and others who don't seem to get this?
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Better a publicly known enemy than a backstabber pretending to be a ally.
corkhead
(6,119 posts)oil drenched wallet
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Republican/Conservative 100% of the time instead of Democratic/Liberal 70-80% of the time.
It's about a person who will vote to give control of that body to Republicans each session.
It's about a person who will vote against the Supreme Court and other nominees of Democratic Presidents and for those (if one gets elected) of Republican Presidents.
corkhead
(6,119 posts)Mary herself proved that. The time is now to develop a real Democrat to run against the cretin that got elected and maybe he'll be a Scott Brown 1 term-er.
I am tired of hearing that we have to nominate repub-lite candidates in red states or they won't get elected. Looks like they can't get elected either.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Louisiana is one of the most conservative states in the country.
Good luck with your efforts to get a Kucinich elected there.
corkhead
(6,119 posts)because there wasn't one running. If I lived in LA I would have held my nose and voted, but I don't blame people for not voting when those are their choices.
The underlying problem is we have a representative government that doesn't represent us. Blaming the non-participants and those who are shouting this from the rooftops is not going to get us anywhere.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)its ridiculous either way.
corkhead
(6,119 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Get everything you want in a democracy.
corkhead
(6,119 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)They only prove they aren't participating.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)How politically naive are some of these people?
Sid
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Never cared for her.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Turbineguy
(37,343 posts)the republicans seem to be doing rather well.
Reter
(2,188 posts)Absolutely not making fun of her, but in 1996 she just looked great. I hope she's not sick. Perhaps she just needs some rest. Three terms in the Senate is no joke.
gort
(687 posts)Please take a moment to think about all the people in the south who were killed trying to get the right to vote before you savor your next bite. Enjoy.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)As if I weren't cognizant of history.
gort
(687 posts)I don't.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)I don't.
gort
(687 posts)Last edited Sun Dec 7, 2014, 05:35 PM - Edit history (1)
Nt
Aerows
(39,961 posts)a note of apology to every single Democratic LA citizen she has represented in the last 12 or so years.
Metric System
(6,048 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)and I no longer live in LA, but next door, but she WAS my Senator at one time, have no more fucks to give to Mary Landrieu. We tried giving a fuck about her, but sorry, we are all out.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)and I know you will appreciate it because you are currently her constituent, and I have been in the past - I have no fucks left to give for Mary Landrieu. She expended nearly all of them on her asinine opposition to the ACA, and lost them all with her support for fracking and the Keystone XL. And that's just recent fucks she lost.
She's been losing anybody and everybody that gave a fuck about her in her capacity as a lame Democratic Senator for a LONG time.
The only people mourning Landrieu's loss are Democrats that have had no experience with her as a Senator representing their state but think she was worthwhile because she showed up with a blue pin on, and Mary Landrieu's family members.
I'm pretty sure there are some family members of Mary Landrieu that are also breathing a sigh of relief that she no longer represents her state.
Leopolds Ghost
(12,875 posts)And her belief after the Gulf Oil spill that we shouldn't do anything to curtail the continued growth of oil exploitation of the marshes because "even if we move to more sustainable energy sources, we'll still need to increase our production of oil at the same time. And Louisiana's economy would not survive without oil." -- her stonewalling of New Orleans and Gulf Coast activists.
Blame racist Northern Louisiana voters and bayou-dwelling trolls. They're the ones whose hatred of liberals and black people is so visceral that they actively took steps to murder survivors in the aftermath of Katrina or leave them to die, which is more than the Rosebud white supremacists did.
And they are the majority of the electorate in Louisiana now.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)One Capitalist tool got replaced by another Capitalist tool.