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SEATTLE, WA -- A Seattle police officer who punched a handcuffed woman will not face charges, reports KING5 in Seattle
The incident happened back on June 22. Officer Adley Shepherd was responding to a possible domestic violence incident in southeast Seattle that quickly escalated.
Police video shows the handcuffed woman, Miyekko Durden-Bosley, kicking Officer Shepherd. Officer Shepherd is then seen punching her.
Bosley says the blow broke an orbital bone, but Officer Shepherd's attorney, Eric Makus, says his client did what he needed to.
http://abc13.com/news/officer-wont-be-charged-for-punching-handcuffed-woman/425328/
marym625
(17,997 posts)RKP5637
(67,111 posts)to be the way the justice systems works in good old America. Cops get a free pass to do any damn thing they want. Cops have now become akin to the Nazi German SS. And none seem interested, TPTB, to get them under control. Becoming a cop today is like getting a hunter's license to legally prey on fellow humans as fair game to hunt.
You put my feelings into words.
helpmetohelpyou
(589 posts)leftymon
(43 posts)(in this case, with a kick) is a bad idea and common sense says should be avoided at all costs.
What am I missing?
gwheezie
(3,580 posts)I remember once at work we had a guy go off he was trashing the place and ripped 2 phones out of the wall and was swinging them over his head. My staff said we got to get him. I said why he's not going anywhere and he can only hit us with the phones if we go get him. So we just kept people away and waited for him to wear himself out. It took about an extra 5 minutes.
Cal Carpenter
(4,959 posts)Legally or otherwise.
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ForgoTheConsequence
(4,869 posts)"an assault charge possibly related to the case apparently was dismissed."
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Cal Carpenter
(4,959 posts)and that's what this thread is about.
The cop with impunity.
All the cops with impunity.
Who punch handcuffed people in the face against procedure. Who shoot unarmed people. And so forth.
Cops ASSAULT people with IMPUNITY.
Whether the VICTIM is 'not smart' or a fucking genius is irrelevant.
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RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)Hence cops should stop acting like they're involved in a street fight when they encounter upset civilians.
Poor training. Questionable culture.
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RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)The abuse was vengeful and served no professional purpose.
Whether or not it's "smart" to kick an officer is not relevant.
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TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)If he has so little restraint that he retaliates against a handcuffed citizen then he should not be in that profession.
me b zola
(19,053 posts)SamKnause
(13,108 posts)Common sense ??
bhikkhu
(10,718 posts)not getting punched in the face in the back of the police car, or getting shot in the head in the street, or getting gang-stomped behind the patrol car.
How is it assault if a person punches an officer, but not assault if an officer punches a person? There's no self defense if the person he punched was handcuffed in the back of the patrol car; its fairly clear he was just angry.
I think its telling that many people are fine with the police kicking the shit out of a person, if that person made them mad. If you think that (and I'm actually curious) have you ever lost your temper and hit someone, or made someone mad and been hit, and then said it was done in anger so it was really ok?
Savannahmann
(3,891 posts)But if it was up to me, the cop would be serving life at hard labor in a rock quarry turning boulders into pea gravel for his daily bowl of gruel.
He had her in hand cuffs. He had her in the car with the shove. So she was contained, and then charges could have been filed. There was no professional behavior about it. It was revenge, bully behavior, nothing more, nothing less.
Taurusny22
(24 posts)If a prisoner is still combative he/she should be isolated or restrained further, period. Cops have to do a better job at not losing their temper. It's not easy, but that's a requirement of the job.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)What is described in the OP and link is at best, borderline. If you are going to not just assault but battery a police officer, you can expect to be subdued.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)ForgoTheConsequence
(4,869 posts)Interesting.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)ForgoTheConsequence
(4,869 posts)It's not a straw man, it's what you did. According to you, there are some instances when it's ok for a larger male to break bones in a female's face. Disgusting.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)ForgoTheConsequence
(4,869 posts)Do you even know what a "straw man" is? For an aspiring pundit you're really bad at this.
Facts: The officer was a male, the victim was a smaller female, a bone was broken in this young woman's face.
Also a fact: YOU justified it.
No way around it, you justified male on female violence and injury.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)ForgoTheConsequence
(4,869 posts)The fact is, your position is indefensible, and you know that, especially from a liberal or center-left point of view.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)You don't respond to anything that shows your world view to be what it actually is.
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)She was cuffed, and in the back of the car, Steve. She caught the cop in the face with her foot.
At this point, the cop could lean out of range and close the car door. Make note of the kick, and she'd be facing charges of assaulting an officer. She wasn't going to run away, or ambush him, or anything else, because she was already subdued and captive.
What he did instead was climb into the car after her to beat her face in for revenge.
helpmetohelpyou
(589 posts)If you're going to defend the cops actions at least be honest about what you watched.
TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)for some folks.
You can electrocute babies by their privates to try to gather "critical information" from their parents as long as the stats work out as far as some care about justice and equality under the law.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Laws are for working people, not cops, banksters, corporate crooks, or politicians.
Logical
(22,457 posts)leftymon
(43 posts)delta17
(283 posts)I don't know if there is a video of this, but someone who is handcuffed and sitting down can't do much damage with a kick. There was no need to punch her in the eye. It seems like the cop responded with unnecessary force.
gwheezie
(3,580 posts)The woman was cuffed, on her back in the police car. She kicked him. What was the purpose of punching her? Get out of the way and close the door of the car. No you are not supposed to punch someone if they kick you if you are the police. She was cuffed on her back in the patrol car. Punching her was retaliation for the kick. No you can't do that.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)the lady who was drunk and for some reason unknown in a domestic dispute should be the one to have all the common sense.
I totally agree, she was subdued and the kick didn't do anything to change that. He should have just chalked it up to part of the job like football players do with their injuries.
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,869 posts)Police think they are judge and jury.
CaptainTruth
(6,594 posts)Carry handcuffs from now on.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)otohara
(24,135 posts)at all costs.
The police will make things worse - it will be costly and you might go to jail.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)"Oh, I'm sorry honey that my head got in the way of your fist!" for the umpteenth time, like Ray Rice's wife, who then gets knocked out, only to be prodded by the Baltimore Ravens to APOLOGIZE?
In the case of Ray Rice, who was on the downside of his career, his wife's decision to deny she would suffer any more abuse was motivated by the prime even that motivates most abused women
"How will he earn a living so that I can survive?"
To survive half-dead in that line of reasoning is why we have walking perps between the calls for domestic violence.
So
are they then not to call 9-1-1 when they are within an inch of their life, then?
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)did not perform the assault in the domestic violence call? She was the one being arrested. Domestic violence is not 100% male on female, sometimes it is female on male.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)So, with some research, the incident was as follows:
Durden-Bosley, who was held in jail for four days before being released without being charged, said she and the father of her 3-year-old daughter got into an argument at a friends house in South Seattle while drinking late Saturday night.
When he drove away to his mothers home nearby, she said, she walked to the home because she was concerned about his welfare, particularly after he drove away after drinking.
He was sitting in front of the house and officers were there when she arrived, Durden-Bosley said, unsure of who called police and why.
The father of her daughter said Friday that his mother called police, but that he was not sure what she reported.
Shepherd walked over and said police were investigating a domestic-violence call, Durden-Bosley said. Durden-Bosley said she explained there had been a verbal argument at a different location.
Shepherd responded in a sarcastic and rude manner without listening to her, Durden-Bosley said.
Shepherd did not ask her if there had been a physical conflict, according to Durden-Bosley.
He just kept saying, Well we got called for a domestic dispute? and someone has to go to jail, Durden-Bosley said.
Under state law and Seattle Police Department policy, officers are required to arrest and book into jail a person suspected of committing domestic violence.
So, using that logic, hauling her into the car, hearing her ask why she was being arrested, and kicking her foot out rates right up there with a punch to the face, eh?
Something tells me police 101 was not enforced and you'd have to be really insensitive to think otherwise.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)warranted, should have just restrained her hand and legs and put her in the car.
Do you have a link to the source please, I have not been able to find that but have found a differing version but is from FOX.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Seattle Times article here: http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2023944536_interviewspdcasexml.html
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)It is only her side of course. Is she going to say she deliberately kicked the officer, I think not. I assume the facts will be more in between what she says and what the cop says. There is no reason a police officer needs to get that physical with a restrained person.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)otohara
(24,135 posts)do what ever it takes to get yourself in a safe environment. Plan, save, get the fuck away from the asshole who's abusing you physically and mentally.
I was not married to a millionaire NBA player like most abused women aren't. Can't possibly relate to their mess of a marriage - she should leave. She could drive herself to an attorney's office tomorrow, never have to worry about money nor being punched again..but that didn't happen did it?
She chooses to stay with the man who punched her and dragged her like a rag doll in a fancy hotel.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)In the end, we seem to get what we give ourselves, and this is not to belittle others who haven't yet figured out what you did.
For them, in fact - for ALL of us, a mantra from a wise man I see on the internet-
for myself and mankind.
The cost is small,
Compared to all,
We will receive in time.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Thankfully the sunshine is upon PDs now to get their shit together and the ones that DO have their shit together don't need to worry about all this sunlight. Right?
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)Honestly, I don't see them every really getting charged with anything, much less a real sentence like they like to see get doled out to simple pot users. I mean, really, make them practice what they preach. Charge them, let them have their trial, then sentence them to the most possible time and punishment they can have for this nonsense they are doing. Apparently, we now need a police police to police the police, because they are out of control.
helpmetohelpyou
(589 posts)All he had to do was close the car door.
He decided he wanted a little bit of revenge
That's all it was
Fucking cops once again
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,869 posts)According to some of our liberal brothers and sisters if a black woman kicks a police officer (on accident apparently) she deserves to have her eye socket broken.
helpmetohelpyou
(589 posts)I get that police have to defend them selves and do have to use
strikes , punches but in this case it's so blatantly obvious it was just
done because the cop was pissed off at her after getting kicked
So now we have DU members who agree with police practicing revenge during an arrest?
And we wonder why this country is messed up and police get away with murder .
LiberalArkie
(15,719 posts)She kicked the officer. the officer will now have to brush off some dirt. But she is black. Black while have a beating heart is a crime to a lot of people.
Derek V
(532 posts)I remember all the blood (his) from that day in the schoolyard like it was yesterday, and he's never once apologized!
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)easychoice
(1,043 posts)These creeps are out to cause trouble.Their attitude toward the public is stunning.The President of their union has declared us "the enemy". No one in my neighborhood will call them and anytime they show up here people come out of their houses with their phones recording everything the bastards do.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)johnmarson
(3 posts)Call me crazy, but if I kick an officer, I expect something to happen, if I reach for his gun I expect to get shot, if I resist arrest I expect some force...
RandiFan1290
(6,237 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)Is that what you are saying?
Bonx
(2,053 posts)He got kicked in the legs a little bit.
So he punches her hard in the face.
Makes no sense how that was supposed to help anything but his petulant self.
randome
(34,845 posts)If I was a police officer, I would always expect for things to not go as anticipated. If they aren't on guard for egregious behavior when they arrive at the scene, what good are they?
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