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ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 11:07 AM Dec 2014

Seattle officer won't be charged for punching handcuffed woman

SEATTLE, WA -- A Seattle police officer who punched a handcuffed woman will not face charges, reports KING5 in Seattle

The incident happened back on June 22. Officer Adley Shepherd was responding to a possible domestic violence incident in southeast Seattle that quickly escalated.

Police video shows the handcuffed woman, Miyekko Durden-Bosley, kicking Officer Shepherd. Officer Shepherd is then seen punching her.

Bosley says the blow broke an orbital bone, but Officer Shepherd's attorney, Eric Makus, says his client did what he needed to.

http://abc13.com/news/officer-wont-be-charged-for-punching-handcuffed-woman/425328/

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Seattle officer won't be charged for punching handcuffed woman (Original Post) ellenrr Dec 2014 OP
of course not. n/t marym625 Dec 2014 #1
Just a cop having a grand old time of it all punching a handcuffed woman. Not surprised, it seems RKP5637 Dec 2014 #2
Well said Basic LA Dec 2014 #16
big +1 helpmetohelpyou Dec 2014 #66
Seems like assaulting an officer... leftymon Dec 2014 #3
The Handcuffs? gwheezie Dec 2014 #5
That doesn't justify punching her in the face. Cal Carpenter Dec 2014 #14
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2014 #18
No she doesn't. ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2014 #40
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2014 #44
Yeah, and that's the problem. The cop who punched her in the face gets no charges at all Cal Carpenter Dec 2014 #42
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2014 #45
Yeah. Exactly. It's not a street fight. RedCappedBandit Dec 2014 #50
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Doesn't matter. nt RedCappedBandit Dec 2014 #57
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A kick is not justification for abuse. RedCappedBandit Dec 2014 #59
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2014 #60
That doesn't make it *right* RedCappedBandit Dec 2014 #61
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and he should still do prison time and be out of a career. TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #69
No, the decision to administer street justice was the linchpin. He should go to prison. TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #71
Unprofessional behavior on the policeman's part. Mojorabbit Dec 2014 #74
Glad you have your priorities straight me b zola Dec 2014 #47
Rational thinking ? SamKnause Dec 2014 #37
Assaulting an officer should lead to charges of assaulting an officer bhikkhu Dec 2014 #46
I dunno. Perhaps I'm in the minority here. Savannahmann Dec 2014 #48
Once the cuffs are on the fight is over Taurusny22 Dec 2014 #55
Well, I think the police are out of control. But I think if you kick anyone you might get punched. Logical Dec 2014 #4
do not kick a police officer nt Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #6
Do not pummel restrained prisoners. If you do you should go to prison. TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #68
very true nt Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #75
I don't equate this with police shooting unarmed African Americans doing nothing wrong. stevenleser Dec 2014 #7
Of course you don't. 99Forever Dec 2014 #9
So you support male on female violence? ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2014 #17
No, I meant what I said, not your straw man. Nt stevenleser Dec 2014 #19
You justified a bigger male punching a young woman in the face and breaking bones. ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2014 #24
No, that is your straw man. Nt stevenleser Dec 2014 #25
So you didn't justify it? ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2014 #27
I don't respond on point to people creating straw man versions of my posts. Nt stevenleser Dec 2014 #29
You've actually responded (without saying anything) a few times already, Steve. ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2014 #31
Please continue having fun talking to yourself about your straw man. Nt stevenleser Dec 2014 #35
Wrong. 99Forever Dec 2014 #33
You have an agenda n/t 951-Riverside Dec 2014 #21
No, I have reason. Nt stevenleser Dec 2014 #22
She was already subdued Scootaloo Dec 2014 #51
There's nothing border line about it , it was revenge for the kick helpmetohelpyou Dec 2014 #65
No, it isn't the police state or the oppressive culture but just the disproportionate nature of it TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #72
It's known as Bad Cop Immunity from Prosecution. 99Forever Dec 2014 #8
It is called "If you kick anyone you might be punched" Logical Dec 2014 #10
Seems like common sense to me... leftymon Dec 2014 #13
The response should be reasonable, though. delta17 Dec 2014 #56
I've never restrained anyone who didn't fight back gwheezie Dec 2014 #11
Well you know cops aren't supposed to be the ones with common sense Kalidurga Dec 2014 #15
Great post. ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2014 #30
Note to Ray Rice: CaptainTruth Dec 2014 #12
Of course by todays standards he was being gentle. He did not kill her. jwirr Dec 2014 #20
Another Reason To AVOID Domestic Violence otohara Dec 2014 #23
How do you do THAT? MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #26
How do you know she Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #28
Absolutely true, Duckhunter... MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #36
Never said the punch was Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #38
Sure… MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #39
Thanks Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #41
Agreed, again! MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #52
I Left otohara Dec 2014 #43
From your lips to every abused SO's ears! MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #53
Of course not. Cops seem to be getting away with a lot of things. Rex Dec 2014 #32
At this point, it would be news if a cop ever DID get charged for brutality. Jamastiene Dec 2014 #34
The woman was cuffed and contained in the backseat ofthe car helpmetohelpyou Dec 2014 #49
But she deserved it apparently. ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2014 #62
Pretty amazing isn't? helpmetohelpyou Dec 2014 #63
Everyone is missing the main point. She is Black. Must have deserved it because she is black. LiberalArkie Dec 2014 #64
I'll never forgive Donny Johannsen for repeatedly attacking on fist with his face Derek V Dec 2014 #67
She should be glad she's alive. lonestarnot Dec 2014 #73
in Seattle that is not sarcastic easychoice Dec 2014 #76
Good job Seattle. lonestarnot Dec 2014 #82
if I kick an officer.. johnmarson Dec 2014 #77
Welcome Back! RandiFan1290 Dec 2014 #78
AFTER you are cuffed and in the back seat? A little payback is to be expected? djean111 Dec 2014 #79
I can't believe people watched this and think it's ok Bonx Dec 2014 #81
So police should not be trained to deal with 'stupid' people, is that it? randome Dec 2014 #80

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
2. Just a cop having a grand old time of it all punching a handcuffed woman. Not surprised, it seems
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 11:17 AM
Dec 2014

to be the way the justice systems works in good old America. Cops get a free pass to do any damn thing they want. Cops have now become akin to the Nazi German SS. And none seem interested, TPTB, to get them under control. Becoming a cop today is like getting a hunter's license to legally prey on fellow humans as fair game to hunt.


 

leftymon

(43 posts)
3. Seems like assaulting an officer...
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 11:17 AM
Dec 2014

(in this case, with a kick) is a bad idea and common sense says should be avoided at all costs.

What am I missing?

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
5. The Handcuffs?
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 11:25 AM
Dec 2014

I remember once at work we had a guy go off he was trashing the place and ripped 2 phones out of the wall and was swinging them over his head. My staff said we got to get him. I said why he's not going anywhere and he can only hit us with the phones if we go get him. So we just kept people away and waited for him to wear himself out. It took about an extra 5 minutes.

Response to Cal Carpenter (Reply #14)

Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #40)

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
42. Yeah, and that's the problem. The cop who punched her in the face gets no charges at all
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 03:21 PM
Dec 2014

and that's what this thread is about.

The cop with impunity.

All the cops with impunity.

Who punch handcuffed people in the face against procedure. Who shoot unarmed people. And so forth.

Cops ASSAULT people with IMPUNITY.

Whether the VICTIM is 'not smart' or a fucking genius is irrelevant.

Response to Cal Carpenter (Reply #42)

RedCappedBandit

(5,514 posts)
50. Yeah. Exactly. It's not a street fight.
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 04:41 PM
Dec 2014

Hence cops should stop acting like they're involved in a street fight when they encounter upset civilians.

Poor training. Questionable culture.

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Response to RedCappedBandit (Reply #57)

RedCappedBandit

(5,514 posts)
59. A kick is not justification for abuse.
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 06:12 PM
Dec 2014

The abuse was vengeful and served no professional purpose.

Whether or not it's "smart" to kick an officer is not relevant.

Response to RedCappedBandit (Reply #59)

Response to RedCappedBandit (Reply #61)

Mojorabbit

(16,020 posts)
74. Unprofessional behavior on the policeman's part.
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 12:12 AM
Dec 2014

If he has so little restraint that he retaliates against a handcuffed citizen then he should not be in that profession.

bhikkhu

(10,718 posts)
46. Assaulting an officer should lead to charges of assaulting an officer
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 04:20 PM
Dec 2014

not getting punched in the face in the back of the police car, or getting shot in the head in the street, or getting gang-stomped behind the patrol car.

How is it assault if a person punches an officer, but not assault if an officer punches a person? There's no self defense if the person he punched was handcuffed in the back of the patrol car; its fairly clear he was just angry.

I think its telling that many people are fine with the police kicking the shit out of a person, if that person made them mad. If you think that (and I'm actually curious) have you ever lost your temper and hit someone, or made someone mad and been hit, and then said it was done in anger so it was really ok?

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
48. I dunno. Perhaps I'm in the minority here.
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 04:29 PM
Dec 2014

But if it was up to me, the cop would be serving life at hard labor in a rock quarry turning boulders into pea gravel for his daily bowl of gruel.

He had her in hand cuffs. He had her in the car with the shove. So she was contained, and then charges could have been filed. There was no professional behavior about it. It was revenge, bully behavior, nothing more, nothing less.

 

Taurusny22

(24 posts)
55. Once the cuffs are on the fight is over
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 05:34 PM
Dec 2014

If a prisoner is still combative he/she should be isolated or restrained further, period. Cops have to do a better job at not losing their temper. It's not easy, but that's a requirement of the job.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
4. Well, I think the police are out of control. But I think if you kick anyone you might get punched.
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 11:19 AM
Dec 2014
 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
7. I don't equate this with police shooting unarmed African Americans doing nothing wrong.
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 11:31 AM
Dec 2014

What is described in the OP and link is at best, borderline. If you are going to not just assault but battery a police officer, you can expect to be subdued.

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,869 posts)
24. You justified a bigger male punching a young woman in the face and breaking bones.
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 02:27 PM
Dec 2014

It's not a straw man, it's what you did. According to you, there are some instances when it's ok for a larger male to break bones in a female's face. Disgusting.

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,869 posts)
27. So you didn't justify it?
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 02:32 PM
Dec 2014

Do you even know what a "straw man" is? For an aspiring pundit you're really bad at this.


Facts: The officer was a male, the victim was a smaller female, a bone was broken in this young woman's face.

Also a fact: YOU justified it.

No way around it, you justified male on female violence and injury.



ForgoTheConsequence

(4,869 posts)
31. You've actually responded (without saying anything) a few times already, Steve.
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 02:36 PM
Dec 2014

The fact is, your position is indefensible, and you know that, especially from a liberal or center-left point of view.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
51. She was already subdued
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 04:50 PM
Dec 2014

She was cuffed, and in the back of the car, Steve. She caught the cop in the face with her foot.

At this point, the cop could lean out of range and close the car door. Make note of the kick, and she'd be facing charges of assaulting an officer. She wasn't going to run away, or ambush him, or anything else, because she was already subdued and captive.

What he did instead was climb into the car after her to beat her face in for revenge.

 

helpmetohelpyou

(589 posts)
65. There's nothing border line about it , it was revenge for the kick
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 08:26 PM
Dec 2014

If you're going to defend the cops actions at least be honest about what you watched.

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
72. No, it isn't the police state or the oppressive culture but just the disproportionate nature of it
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 11:50 PM
Dec 2014

for some folks.

You can electrocute babies by their privates to try to gather "critical information" from their parents as long as the stats work out as far as some care about justice and equality under the law.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
8. It's known as Bad Cop Immunity from Prosecution.
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 11:31 AM
Dec 2014

Laws are for working people, not cops, banksters, corporate crooks, or politicians.

delta17

(283 posts)
56. The response should be reasonable, though.
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 05:42 PM
Dec 2014

I don't know if there is a video of this, but someone who is handcuffed and sitting down can't do much damage with a kick. There was no need to punch her in the eye. It seems like the cop responded with unnecessary force.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
11. I've never restrained anyone who didn't fight back
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 11:35 AM
Dec 2014

The woman was cuffed, on her back in the police car. She kicked him. What was the purpose of punching her? Get out of the way and close the door of the car. No you are not supposed to punch someone if they kick you if you are the police. She was cuffed on her back in the patrol car. Punching her was retaliation for the kick. No you can't do that.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
15. Well you know cops aren't supposed to be the ones with common sense
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 12:30 PM
Dec 2014

the lady who was drunk and for some reason unknown in a domestic dispute should be the one to have all the common sense.

I totally agree, she was subdued and the kick didn't do anything to change that. He should have just chalked it up to part of the job like football players do with their injuries.

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
23. Another Reason To AVOID Domestic Violence
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 02:21 PM
Dec 2014

at all costs.

The police will make things worse - it will be costly and you might go to jail.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
26. How do you do THAT?
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 02:28 PM
Dec 2014

"Oh, I'm sorry honey that my head got in the way of your fist!" for the umpteenth time, like Ray Rice's wife, who then gets knocked out, only to be prodded by the Baltimore Ravens to APOLOGIZE?

In the case of Ray Rice, who was on the downside of his career, his wife's decision to deny she would suffer any more abuse was motivated by the prime even that motivates most abused women… "How will he earn a living so that I can survive?"

To survive half-dead in that line of reasoning is why we have walking perps between the calls for domestic violence.

So… are they then not to call 9-1-1 when they are within an inch of their life, then?

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
28. How do you know she
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 02:33 PM
Dec 2014

did not perform the assault in the domestic violence call? She was the one being arrested. Domestic violence is not 100% male on female, sometimes it is female on male.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
36. Absolutely true, Duckhunter...
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 02:44 PM
Dec 2014

So, with some research, the incident was as follows:

Durden-Bosley, who was held in jail for four days before being released without being charged, said she and the father of her 3-year-old daughter got into an argument at a friend’s house in South Seattle while drinking late Saturday night.

When he drove away to his mother’s home nearby, she said, she walked to the home because she was concerned about his welfare, particularly after he drove away after drinking.

He was sitting in front of the house and officers were there when she arrived, Durden-Bosley said, unsure of who called police and why.

The father of her daughter said Friday that his mother called police, but that he was not sure what she reported.

Shepherd walked over and said police were investigating a domestic-violence call, Durden-Bosley said. Durden-Bosley said she explained there had been a “verbal argument” at a different location.

Shepherd responded in a “sarcastic and rude” manner without listening to her, Durden-Bosley said.

Shepherd did not ask her if there had been a physical conflict, according to Durden-Bosley.

“He just kept saying, ‘Well we got called for a domestic dispute’?” and “someone has to go to jail,” Durden-Bosley said.

Under state law and Seattle Police Department policy, officers are required to arrest and book into jail a person suspected of committing domestic violence.


So, using that logic, hauling her into the car, hearing her ask why she was being arrested, and kicking her foot out rates right up there with a punch to the face, eh?

Something tells me police 101 was not enforced and you'd have to be really insensitive to think otherwise.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
38. Never said the punch was
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 02:53 PM
Dec 2014

warranted, should have just restrained her hand and legs and put her in the car.

Do you have a link to the source please, I have not been able to find that but have found a differing version but is from FOX.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
41. Thanks
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 03:14 PM
Dec 2014

It is only her side of course. Is she going to say she deliberately kicked the officer, I think not. I assume the facts will be more in between what she says and what the cop says. There is no reason a police officer needs to get that physical with a restrained person.

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
43. I Left
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 03:36 PM
Dec 2014

do what ever it takes to get yourself in a safe environment. Plan, save, get the fuck away from the asshole who's abusing you physically and mentally.

I was not married to a millionaire NBA player like most abused women aren't. Can't possibly relate to their mess of a marriage - she should leave. She could drive herself to an attorney's office tomorrow, never have to worry about money nor being punched again..but that didn't happen did it?

She chooses to stay with the man who punched her and dragged her like a rag doll in a fancy hotel.





MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
53. From your lips to every abused SO's ears!
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 05:24 PM
Dec 2014

In the end, we seem to get what we give ourselves, and this is not to belittle others who haven't yet figured out what you did.

For them, in fact - for ALL of us, a mantra from a wise man I see on the internet-

I see a bright future,
for myself and mankind.
The cost is small,
Compared to all,
We will receive in time.
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
32. Of course not. Cops seem to be getting away with a lot of things.
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 02:38 PM
Dec 2014

Thankfully the sunshine is upon PDs now to get their shit together and the ones that DO have their shit together don't need to worry about all this sunlight. Right?

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
34. At this point, it would be news if a cop ever DID get charged for brutality.
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 02:40 PM
Dec 2014

Honestly, I don't see them every really getting charged with anything, much less a real sentence like they like to see get doled out to simple pot users. I mean, really, make them practice what they preach. Charge them, let them have their trial, then sentence them to the most possible time and punishment they can have for this nonsense they are doing. Apparently, we now need a police police to police the police, because they are out of control.

 

helpmetohelpyou

(589 posts)
49. The woman was cuffed and contained in the backseat ofthe car
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 04:39 PM
Dec 2014

All he had to do was close the car door.

He decided he wanted a little bit of revenge

That's all it was

Fucking cops once again

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,869 posts)
62. But she deserved it apparently.
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 07:25 PM
Dec 2014

According to some of our liberal brothers and sisters if a black woman kicks a police officer (on accident apparently) she deserves to have her eye socket broken.

 

helpmetohelpyou

(589 posts)
63. Pretty amazing isn't?
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 08:16 PM
Dec 2014

I get that police have to defend them selves and do have to use
strikes , punches but in this case it's so blatantly obvious it was just
done because the cop was pissed off at her after getting kicked

So now we have DU members who agree with police practicing revenge during an arrest?

And we wonder why this country is messed up and police get away with murder .




LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
64. Everyone is missing the main point. She is Black. Must have deserved it because she is black.
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 08:24 PM
Dec 2014

She kicked the officer. the officer will now have to brush off some dirt. But she is black. Black while have a beating heart is a crime to a lot of people.

 

Derek V

(532 posts)
67. I'll never forgive Donny Johannsen for repeatedly attacking on fist with his face
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 09:14 PM
Dec 2014

I remember all the blood (his) from that day in the schoolyard like it was yesterday, and he's never once apologized!

easychoice

(1,043 posts)
76. in Seattle that is not sarcastic
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 01:57 AM
Dec 2014

These creeps are out to cause trouble.Their attitude toward the public is stunning.The President of their union has declared us "the enemy". No one in my neighborhood will call them and anytime they show up here people come out of their houses with their phones recording everything the bastards do.

johnmarson

(3 posts)
77. if I kick an officer..
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 07:13 AM
Dec 2014

Call me crazy, but if I kick an officer, I expect something to happen, if I reach for his gun I expect to get shot, if I resist arrest I expect some force...

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
79. AFTER you are cuffed and in the back seat? A little payback is to be expected?
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 09:56 AM
Dec 2014

Is that what you are saying?

Bonx

(2,053 posts)
81. I can't believe people watched this and think it's ok
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 11:57 AM
Dec 2014

He got kicked in the legs a little bit.
So he punches her hard in the face.
Makes no sense how that was supposed to help anything but his petulant self.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
80. So police should not be trained to deal with 'stupid' people, is that it?
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 10:20 AM
Dec 2014

If I was a police officer, I would always expect for things to not go as anticipated. If they aren't on guard for egregious behavior when they arrive at the scene, what good are they?
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