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..Oh, WOW!.....This jaw dropping image from the Houston Galleria area protest.. (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl Dec 2014 OP
Beautiful and horrifying Warpy Dec 2014 #1
wow Liberal_in_LA Dec 2014 #2
Wow! MoreGOPoop Dec 2014 #3
THIS one is just absolutely IT for me: calimary Dec 2014 #4
+1 nt AnotherDreamWeaver Dec 2014 #7
Spelled correctly too BobbyBoring Dec 2014 #9
Proof-positive she's not a teabagger! calimary Dec 2014 #12
Sigh, ...what have we become? n/t Paper Roses Dec 2014 #11
Sometimes I don't even like to let myself think about that too deeply, Paper Roses. calimary Dec 2014 #13
I had an abortion back in the 80's Ineeda Dec 2014 #24
The "right" looks for ways to segment the "left" ... staggerleem Dec 2014 #25
The look on her face BrotherIvan Dec 2014 #17
The look on her face did me in too. ScreamingMeemie Dec 2014 #21
Wow. ctsnowman Dec 2014 #23
Glad someone brought up Sean Bell (the other sign) BumRushDaShow Dec 2014 #5
I find this story so sad an amazing. Raine1967 Dec 2014 #10
Unbelievable (but not all that surprising)... Ino Dec 2014 #15
K&R!!! Dustlawyer Dec 2014 #6
K & R malaise Dec 2014 #8
I am sitting in a small town in Alabama dixiegrrrrl Dec 2014 #14
The strategy of taking over the churches TBF Dec 2014 #16
That is the key BrotherIvan Dec 2014 #18
Before it was a gun, it was a sword. Read: alfredo Dec 2014 #19
That is an amazing book. hifiguy Dec 2014 #26
Ralph Reed boasted that the Christian Coalition was going to take over the GOP, then alfredo Dec 2014 #33
Reminds me of an old joke, not so funny any more hifiguy Dec 2014 #35
Nowadays, capitalist don't have to see blood or smell corpses. alfredo Dec 2014 #40
Yes, and in the end it will be those damned churches (I say that as a Christian) that will be the jwirr Dec 2014 #39
Good point - TBF Dec 2014 #27
Two books by Reza Aslan, "No God but God" and "Zealot" will give good background alfredo Dec 2014 #34
How big was the protest? Where was it? Manifestor_of_Light Dec 2014 #20
I pulled this from a Tweet by Anonymous who was reposting it. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2014 #22
The Torn Flag ... a poem by Pete Seeger... DreamGypsy Dec 2014 #28
Gypsy...thank you SO much for that poem/song. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2014 #30
Thanks to you... DreamGypsy Dec 2014 #32
Wow. I had never heard that one. Fits today totally. jwirr Dec 2014 #38
American history... TeeYiYi Dec 2014 #29
Gulp. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2014 #31
Another truth. jwirr Dec 2014 #37
Breathe taking. Real. jwirr Dec 2014 #36

Warpy

(111,277 posts)
1. Beautiful and horrifying
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 04:52 PM
Dec 2014

I imagine a lot of editorial cartoonists are kicking themselves for not having thought of it.

calimary

(81,322 posts)
4. THIS one is just absolutely IT for me:
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 05:35 PM
Dec 2014

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I don't think I can add anything to this one. This young woman's sign says it all.

calimary

(81,322 posts)
12. Proof-positive she's not a teabagger!
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 06:46 PM
Dec 2014

I just can't get this image out of my mind. Found it here weeks ago, and I think I've reposted it a dozen times or something. It just SO speaks to me. I feel the same exact way! I feel it strongly regarding the uphill struggle we STILL have to safeguard a woman's right to choose!

calimary

(81,322 posts)
13. Sometimes I don't even like to let myself think about that too deeply, Paper Roses.
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 07:03 PM
Dec 2014

The very idea just is unbelievably and impossibly stunning and shocking and so deeply frustrating. If I had a dime for every woman I've heard saying her own version of this, regarding the severely threatened woman's right to choose, I could almost out-donate the koch brothers. HOW MANY TIMES I've heard it uttered - and muttered!
"But... I thought this was settled!"
"This is the 21st Century forcryingoutloud. WHY are we still fighting this?"
"I can't believe we're still fighting this battle!"
"WHAT is going on? Why do we still have to fight this?"
"Didn't we already settle this? Like YEARS AGO???"
"I thought this struggle was over!"
"I thought we won this one."
"I can't believe this is STILL a problem!"
"Wasn't this already settled - a LONG time ago?"
"My mother fought for this. I never dreamed I'd have to fight for it too."
"I can't believe they're still trying to take this away from us! (And after how hard we fought, too!)"

MULTIPLE versions of this frustration. Voiced again and again. I can so relate to what African Americans have to endure, and struggle through, if even in this very small indirect way. And I think about our LGBT brothers and sisters, too, and THEIR struggle - which, despite how it looks, is NOT over. NOWHERE NEAR over. Don't get complacent, dear friends and fellow fighters! Even now there are huge and powerful forces conspiring different ways to take that newly-won, hard-fought, and only partially-secure marriage equality right away from you - and as soon as possible. They don't want you to have that right or keep it, any more than they want to get out of women's doctors' offices and bedrooms. And they're GONNA take it away from you if there's any way they can figure out how.

Ineeda

(3,626 posts)
24. I had an abortion back in the 80's
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 10:00 AM
Dec 2014

and submitted a claim to my employee-benefit insurance company even though abortions were still talked of in whispers. I was ready to fight if they refused to pay. It was legal, medical procedure, and my husband's vasectomy, performed a week before, was covered, so I was ready for battle. Fair is fair, I thought. And hell, I hadn't fought in the trenches only to be categorically denied.

They covered it. Not a peep. But I've been saying since 2001 (yelling it, actually) that we can't take this hard-won right for granted, ever. An entire generation hadn't experienced the panic of an unwanted or dangerous pregnancy. Now, horrifyingly, many do. And more will.

 

staggerleem

(469 posts)
25. The "right" looks for ways to segment the "left" ...
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 01:01 PM
Dec 2014

... and this is one of them. The Kochs, the Chamber Of Commerce, and ALEC actively seek social issues of "controversy" (or that they can drum up controversy over) that might cause further fragmentation of the left. I say "further" because, unlike the lock-steppers on the right, we progressives are capable of independent thought, and getting us to act together has been likened, in the past, to an attempt at "herding cats".

So, THAT's why we still have to fight the battles we'd thought were already won - because when the opposition is funded by billionaires, the war, quite literally, NEVER ends - and that applies to the domestic war for the rights of the masses as well as the overseas wars for expansion of empire.

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
5. Glad someone brought up Sean Bell (the other sign)
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 05:40 PM
Dec 2014

where NYC cops unloaded 50 bullets into his car killing him and injuring several of his groomsmen in the very early a.m. before his wedding as they were leaving a bachelor party at a club.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
10. I find this story so sad an amazing.
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 06:41 PM
Dec 2014

cause, this:

http://nypost.com/2013/11/30/former-cops-still-reeling-7-years-after-sean-bell-horror/

?w=680&h=450&crop=1

Gescard Isnora was the only officer involved in the 2006 police shooting of Sean Bell to be booted from the force.

Ino

(3,366 posts)
15. Unbelievable (but not all that surprising)...
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 07:28 PM
Dec 2014

a bunch of pigs feeling sorry for themselves, and how the incident has affected themselves. Even though all but one are collecting pensions. Not one word for the victims.

Napoli was forced into retirement and given a $75,000-a-year pension with an annual lump-sum supplement of $12,000.

“I miss the Police Department,” he said. “Obviously, you don’t want to leave under those circumstances, however I didn’t have a choice. Thankfully, I retired with a full pension. No wrongdoing. And that meant a great deal to my family.”

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
14. I am sitting in a small town in Alabama
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 07:25 PM
Dec 2014

A state I like a lot, for the very reasons that I liked growing up in small towns in the 1950's.
Living here today is much like the 50's...low housing costs, an air of timelessness that is soothing to us retired people

and yet....I read the news...and it feels like 1955 when Ms. Parks defiantly took her seat on the bus
or 1965 when Dr. King led the march from Selma to Montgomery ( Selma is only 40 miles north of here, as the crow flies)

and it is if Johnson had never signed the Civil Rights Act into law.

The Republicans have rolled and stole us back to those earlier times.


TBF

(32,067 posts)
16. The strategy of taking over the churches
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 07:34 PM
Dec 2014

did it for them. We need to rebuild our unions to have a fighting chance.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
18. That is the key
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 08:35 PM
Dec 2014

They are using the churches to give (divine) authority to their message. That's why you see pictures now with someone holding a gun in one hand and a Bible in another. They get Fox every night and a sermon on Sunday so they are awash in racism, fear and hatred.

Something must be done about the Churches.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
26. That is an amazing book.
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 01:16 PM
Dec 2014

I just re-read it a couple of years ago.

And yes, the Repig takeover of the fundy churches is a HUGE deal. The solace of pie in the sky when you die has an enormous appeal to those without a lot of intellectual horsepower to deal with the world as it is.

alfredo

(60,074 posts)
33. Ralph Reed boasted that the Christian Coalition was going to take over the GOP, then
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 02:54 PM
Dec 2014

take over Washington. Another CC member said they are going to bring America to its knees. What he meant by that, I can only guess.
In the end, the money faction saw that the Christian right wasn't working anymore, so they got rebranded as the Tea Party. Less religion, more guns.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
35. Reminds me of an old joke, not so funny any more
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 02:59 PM
Dec 2014

"How did you make your money, sir?"

"The old-fashioned way - extorting it from the peasantry at the point of a sword."

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
39. Yes, and in the end it will be those damned churches (I say that as a Christian) that will be the
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 03:10 PM
Dec 2014

targets of the revolutionaries. And they deserve it. Their hate message with come back on them.

TBF

(32,067 posts)
27. Good point -
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 01:17 PM
Dec 2014

the churches have long been used (or perhaps the using goes both ways) by the folks in authority as a means of controlling the masses. Looks like a book I need to add to my reading list.

alfredo

(60,074 posts)
34. Two books by Reza Aslan, "No God but God" and "Zealot" will give good background
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 02:57 PM
Dec 2014

to Carroll's book.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
20. How big was the protest? Where was it?
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 12:33 AM
Dec 2014

Going down Westheimer or Post Oak?

More info please. Thanks for the picture!!

DreamGypsy

(2,252 posts)
28. The Torn Flag ... a poem by Pete Seeger...
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 01:48 PM
Dec 2014

...my favorite version is recited by John Trudell (below).


The Torn Flag

At midnight in a flaming angry town
I saw my country’s flag lying torn upon the ground.
I ran in and dodged among the crowd,
And scooped it up, and scampered out to safety.

And then I took this striped old piece of cloth
And tried my best to wash the garbage off.
But I found it had been used for wrapping lies.
It smelled and stank and attracted all the flies.

While I was feverishly at my task,
I heard a husky voice that seemed to ask:
“Do you think you could change me just a bit?
Betsy Ross did her best, but she made a few mistakes.

My blue is good, the color of the sky.
The stars are good for ideals, oh, so high.
Seven stripes of red are strong to meet all danger;
But those white stripes: they, they need some changing.

I need also some stripes of deep, rich brown,
And some of tan and black, then all around
A border of God’s gracious green would look good there.
Maybe you should slant the stripes, then I’d not be so square.”

I woke and said, “What a ridiculous story.
Don’t let anybody say I suggested tampering with Old Glory.”
But tonight it’s near midnight, and in another flaming town
Once again I hear my country’s flag lies torn upon the ground
.

Words and Music by Pete Seeger (1969)




("Malcolm X once debated another black man as to whether they could call themselves Americans. “I’m not an American,” said Malcolm, “Why do you think you are?” “I’m an American because I was born here,” said the other. “well, you could put a shoe in an oven and that wouldn’t make it a biscuit,” was Malcolm’s retort. I’m afraid I have no such choice. My light-skinned ancestors participated fully in the decisions, good and bad, which formed this nation. I’ve spent a lifetime fighting the blacklisters who tried to make me feel like an outcast in my own home. “I had an uncle who wrote a poem with the lines: “I have a rendezvous with death / At midnight in some flaming town. . .” So I made some new verses. I don’t have a regular tune for it yet — I kind of chant it to an improvised modal melody.” — Pete Seeger)

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
30. Gypsy...thank you SO much for that poem/song.
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 02:28 PM
Dec 2014

I miss Pete Seeger..he was an important contribution to many generations.

DreamGypsy

(2,252 posts)
32. Thanks to you...
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 02:43 PM
Dec 2014

...dixiegrrrrl, for posting the flag photo that stirred my memory of the song.

I hope that Pete's songs (and those of many other social conscience songwriters and singers) will survive for generations to come.


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