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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBeing a cop showed me just how racist and violent the police are. There’s only one fix.
Here's one of the good ones, a good cop, who tried to 'change things from within' a police department. He couldn't stomach what he saw on the St. Lewis police force, and ended up quitting and going to work for the ACLU. If this is what happens when a 'good cop' tries to 'make a difference' from within, then it powerfully suggests to me that solving our 'police problem' is going to be an uphill battle.
This is a good read, not long. Highly recommended.
Being a cop showed me just how racist and violent the police are. Theres only one fix.
By Redditt Hudson * Washington Post * December 6, 2014
As a kid, I got used to being stopped by the police. I grew up in an inner-ring suburb of St. Louis. It was the kind of place where officers routinely roughed up my friends and family for no good reason. I hated the way cops treated me.
But I knew police werent all bad. One of my fathers closest friends was a cop. He became a mentor to me and encouraged me to join the force. He told me that I could use the polices power and resources to help my community. So in 1994, I joined the St. Louis Police Department. I quickly realized how naive Id been. I was floored by the dysfunctional culture I encountered. I wont say all, but many of my peers were deeply racist.
One example: A couple of officers ran a Web site called St. Louis Coptalk, where officers could post about their experience and opinions. At some point during my career, it became so full of racist rants that the site administrator temporarily shut it down. Cops routinely called anyone of color a thug, whether they were the victim or just a bystander. This attitude corrodes the way policing is done.
As a cop, it shouldnt surprise you that people will curse at you, or be disappointed by your arrival. Thats part of the job. But too many times, officers saw young black and brown men as targets. They would respond with force to even minor offenses. And because cops are rarely held accountable for their actions, they didnt think too hard about the consequences.
~snip~
We could start to change that by mandating that a special prosecutor be appointed to try excessive force cases. And we need more independent oversight, with teeth
http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/12/06/i-was-a-st-louis-cop-my-peers-were-racist-and-violent-and-theres-only-one-fix/
Jim__
(14,077 posts)Most people expected that, this ex-cop verifies it.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)and he was asked if he thought anything had changed since he was a cop. He said he thought it was worse. I think he is right. And that was a long time ago when they were forced to hold hearings and supposedly institute reform.
He was a good cop, he refused to take drug money and became a liability to the crooked cops because of it.
It is dangerous to be a good cop.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)Masses of people need to stand up for the good cops.
This "criminals-are-good-Wild-West" atmosphere the bushes have shoved in our faces is getting old.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)I just rewatched Serpico recently, after reading this article.
Totally chilling and utterly revealing as to "how it is" behind the thin blue line.
Here's another similar first-hand account, by a good cop, but this cop quit policing,
because he couldn't stomach what he saw, and now works for the ACLU.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025925403
Flatulo
(5,005 posts)that abuse will follow after a period of time.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)... in the past week or so. It was linked from here on DU, if you want to do a site search.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)when I saw the movie about two weeks ago and do remember interviews with him where he spoke about the corruption in PDs.
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)...citizens than the people that put them there.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)I suspect that many in prison are completely innocent, and just got some
shit pinned on them by lying cops, for an 'easy arrest'.
Curtis
(348 posts)I can verify what this guy says. I met so many people who were the most racist and judgemental pricks (both male and female) I've even met in my 52 years of life during my time as a cop.
I receive a couple of letters of thanks from people I arrested because I treated them like human beings. I had a hard time treating the people with whom I worked with the same courtesy. Most of my family feared I would eventually end up like Serpico. So, I'm actually glad I lost my job when the economy crashed.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)while you were 'in the system'.. and I'm sp glad you got out, before being Serpico-ed.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)The world of justice in America has been turned on it's head. Those that should be the good guys, are the bad guys. We, the ones who pay their and their family's way in life, are the enemy.
How fucked up is that?
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Last edited Tue Dec 9, 2014, 05:46 PM - Edit history (1)
When looking at the macro-picture, it's quite mind boggling.
Actually I'm totally happy all this killer-cop stuff is finally coming to the forefront
of the national stage. It's going to be a long difficult journey if we are ever to
change this, but change it we must.
.. or else we're falling into the trap that's been laid for us by .01%-ers <--THIS
is who the cops now 'protect and serve', not the public (who pays for it).
"I can hire one half of the working class to kill the other half." ~Jay Gould (19th Century Railroad Barron's
idea of how to destroy unions.)
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)If you see the local cop at the grocery store or out watering his lawn, or if his kids go to school with your kids, I think that could make a difference.
Who cares more about the health and well being of a neighborhood than the people who live there?
LuvNewcastle
(16,846 posts)I think the old way of doing things, with the cop walking the beat and serving in the area where he lives is a good model. Bringing in cops from other towns to police areas where the people are very different is a recipe for conflict.
RoccoRyg
(260 posts)My conservative family ranted about how Michael Brown deserved it and thought that protesters are "anti-police." "The police are there to protect us," says my aunt. If only they were capable of critical thought and understood the culture of violence and intimidation that defines many law enforcement cultures these days.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)http://www.traileraddict.com/serpico/trailer
Just kidding actually I wouldn't recommend it.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)help make those New Year promises mean something.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)ReRe
(10,597 posts)... a good one for the guys to watch while the women and kids were out shopping, though.
calimary
(81,306 posts)Last edited Sun Dec 7, 2014, 09:47 PM - Edit history (1)
Glad you're here! It must be awfully frustrating for you to have to deal with that wall of willful ignorance and apathy - and disconnect. And you're clearly not alone. This whole country is afflicted along those lines.
Sometimes I feel hopeful, and other times... well... not so much, I'm afraid. This has lingered and lingered and lingered and lingered - Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation was back in the mid-1800s. And how far have we come, really? We are STILL fighting this shit. Lo these many, Many, MANY years later. Sometimes I just shake my head in near despair for our country. WHEN are we gonna grow up and snap out of this? And get OVER it? And move beyond it? And RISE ABOVE IT???? WHEN? Will that ever even happen?
I was so hopeful about the election of Barack Obama as President. I so badly hoped that it meant we HAD grown up and matured a little, and gotten past a lot of the bad times and prejudices. I so ardently hoped it meant that America had finally evolved just a wee bit more, that all that old racist shit was finally being put solidly behind us.
But the forces against growth and enlightenment and evolution are so damn powerful. People literally cling to this shit. I'm so disappointed and discouraged with my fellow Americans sometimes! Why can't we grow up? Sometimes I wonder if it means we all have to wait til that racist older white generation dies off. But it looks as though there are multitudes of younger ones coming up after them, MORE than willing to take their places and keep the old shit alive.
When I see what our President has to deal with - worse treatment than I can remember ANY President having to deal with (and I'm 61 now), it just seems almost like another version of what Michael Brown was confronted with, and Eric Garner had to deal with, and Trayvon Martin had to deal with, and the list just seems endless. Who will it be tomorrow or next week? Because I don't see it abetting anytime soon, especially when you consider there is NO deterrent force or protocol in place to make sure this does NOT happen again. What kind of deterrent is in the back of the minds of our police? What is the motivation NOT to shoot first and ask questions later? When they know they won't be held accountable and that prosecutors will have their backs regardless, WHERE is the motivation to change or try to prevent any of this?
So VERY Frustrating and disappointing.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)RoccoRyg
(260 posts)But I'm an optimist. One day mankind will be free of the people who say blacks should have stayed slaves because it kept them out of gangs. "At least it was a job."
Yeah, my family's like that.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)" this way I can kill people of color "legally" "
cowards
calimary
(81,306 posts)Or how it's GOING TO BE any other way. WHERE is the motivation to change? When the Daniel Pantaleos and Darren Wilsons of the world go UNPUNISHED, not a finger on them, a free pass, biased prosecutors determined to keep the playing field tilted in their favor, regardless, covering for them and keeping them on the job, not compelling them to answer for what they did or face charges and some real penalties for what they did. Talk of "training." Oh great. Yeah, THAT'LL fix it. Makes me think about the Iraqi Army. HOW MANY years have we been supposedly "training" them, too?
randome
(34,845 posts)They won't be a cure-all but they will help.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"Everybody is just on their feet screaming 'Kill Kill Kill'! This is hockey Conservative values!"[/center][/font][hr]
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)just relayed what the header was of article.
I think if I had to pick ONE thing though, it would be 'requiring a special prosecutor'
(not a local DA) to handle cases where cops kill unarmed citizens.
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)ReRe
(10,597 posts)... WTF is up with Charles Barkley?
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)were all rubbishing what he said and the first one brought up his race as "it's easy for black people to blame racism when they're bad at their job".
Orrex
(63,215 posts)On of the veteran cops told him it was the best job in the world because you got paid to beat up black people.
This was in '99.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)Each state in the Union has to undertake the overhaul of their police depts. ASAP.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)was a local police officer. He saved me and my record from a "youthful indiscretion". He died trying to save his daughter from drowning in what I know suspect was a riptide and/or muscle cramps. He was a good man. He would NOT be comfortable with the current vicious culture of policing in america.