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sheshe2

(83,789 posts)
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 07:10 PM Dec 2014

Nadin sent these links to me last night...As proof "Black Lives Matter" to everyone-finally

To use the pictures in my Op last night "Black Lives Matter" to everyone...finally. After reading them I felt the articles deserved an Op of there own.

Nadin said this to me.



We are covering the marches at Reporting San Diego

Suffice it to say, the scene has been changed in San Diego as well.

Who's feet, my feet, what feet, sore feet! One march was for about 10 miles, with a forty pound packs. We take way too much crap to the field, and these days includes tactical helmet, first aid kit and gas mask. Why? Well Ferguson of course.


Protesters Take to City Heights Streets Again

By nadinabbott on December 6, 2014 •



snip

“This is what people power can do, this is what protesting can do,” said Mendonca.

The march had members from different strata of San Diego society. It brought together, white, black and brown. It also brought together working class, students and middle class people.



Before the march, the protesters held a die in that lasted 11 minutes. Each minute represented each time Eric Garner said he could not breath, before he died.

snip

What brought her to this protest, is that what has happened is wrong, and “everybody should be out participating.” It is wrong that people have been killed all over the country. Minorities who are unarmed, “to sit at home and not do anything about it, and not participate, if you are not being part of the solution, you are being part of the problem.”





Read More http://reportingsandiego.com/2014/12/06/protesters-take-to-city-heights-streets-again/

Who’s Campus, Our Campus…Mike Brown and Eric Garner at USD

By nadinabbott on December 5, 2014




Dec. 5, 2014 (San Diego) Students, administrators, teachers and members of the community came to the University of San Diego (USD) for a march. This was a march in the same continuity of the national outrage over the grand jury decisions of both Missouri and New York. People are angry and tired of police impunity.

Tarez Lemmons was one of the student organizers and he saw a crowd of about 90 people. They came for one thing, to protest the deaths of two African-American men, at the hands of police, and the decisions of two mostly white grand juries.

Simmons told the crowd “change is possible but it takes all our voices.” He added that he started to feel the same kind of despondency that has reached many in communities of color. But he was cured of it once he saw people from widely different backgrounds coming out and showing the same anger.

Read More http://reportingsandiego.com/2014/12/05/whos-campus-our-campusmike-brown-and-eric-garner-at-usd/


Four and a Half Minutes for Mike Brown

By nadinabbott on November 29, 2014 •




Photos: Tom and Nadin Abbott

Nov. 29, 2014 (San Diego) Mark Jones led the march to Horton Plaza to protest the grand jury Decision from Ferguson, Missouri. He is an honorably discharged United States Marine and chose to lead the march in his Dress Blues. The march started at the convention Center, with about 50 participants, but grew over the course of the march to about a 100.

snip

In the speech he said, “we are peaceful, to show you, to show everybody. Black, look at this crowd, brown, white, asian, standing together in solidarity.” He added, “I don’t care what you think about that indictment, civil rights is civil rights, period.”



snip

Jones also said that the people, who were marching, were not there because there is no problem. They were there because there is a problem. He also pointed out the mixed nature of the crowd, who were multi racial. “My injustice today, is your injustice tomorrow!”



Jones also was clear that people could go on with shopping like nothing happened. Then he, and the group, stood in silence for four and a half minutes, in memory of the four and a half hours that it took for the police to remove the body of Mike Brown from the streets in Ferguson.

Read More http://reportingsandiego.com/2014/11/29/four-and-a-half-minutes-for-mike-brown/

Fantastic Articles and Photo's. Thanks for the links, nadin.

Yes indeed there is something in the air, you can feel it, you can almost reach out and touch it. There is change coming.







































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Nadin sent these links to me last night...As proof "Black Lives Matter" to everyone-finally (Original Post) sheshe2 Dec 2014 OP
What happened to Nadine ???? jaysunb Dec 2014 #1
She got a time out for having posts hidden and hasn't been back...nt Jesus Malverde Dec 2014 #3
She won't post here anymore. sheshe2 Dec 2014 #4
I've occasionally gotten PMs here from her. Jackpine Radical Dec 2014 #17
Good to hear Jackpine. sheshe2 Dec 2014 #18
I'm glad she's writing. Jackpine Radical Dec 2014 #38
She had a post hidden, accused DU of being an anti-Semitic hate site, and quit in a huff...nt SidDithers Dec 2014 #6
She still is heaven05 Dec 2014 #59
I was wondering if any of you guys would pop in and give Nadin one more dig. rhett o rick Dec 2014 #60
She was run out of here by hateful people who hounded and treated her like shit and bullied her and ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #15
Yep. That's what happened. It wasn't just one post hidden but a lot of harassment before it. eom Cleita Dec 2014 #22
That's the way I remember it. HubertHeaver Dec 2014 #23
DU is not the pleasant place people want to always believe it is. Some of the treatment RKP5637 Dec 2014 #26
I agree. It's appalling how people get dogpiled on, when they've done little or nothing nomorenomore08 Dec 2014 #33
That's exactly what happened. n/t QC Dec 2014 #34
Nadin and I were always fine steve2470 Dec 2014 #35
I miss her, too. longship Dec 2014 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #40
Of course they are. longship Dec 2014 #42
Inclined to believe this +1,000 times... MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #46
I'm being alert-stalked right now. Gotta delete my posts. nt ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #47
she left because of the ANti Semetism during the Israel Gaza Conflict JI7 Dec 2014 #51
The bullying of nadin started long before the Israel/Gaza Conflict. A lot longer. nt ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #52
it was the anti semetism which disgusted her enough to not come back JI7 Dec 2014 #53
She was bullied off the site Warpy Dec 2014 #54
Lovely to hear from Nadin again mcar Dec 2014 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Dec 2014 #5
She has free will. She's an asset to the site. Others are just asses. NYC_SKP Dec 2014 #7
"Others" didn't go to facebook's DU group pintobean Dec 2014 #14
And then "others" just go to Discussionist for that... R B Garr Dec 2014 #48
So are you rationalizing or justifying the bulling? Saying she "deserved it"? nm rhett o rick Dec 2014 #61
Hope so.... daleanime Dec 2014 #28
I sure hope so. I enjoyed her posts. I miss her! calimary Dec 2014 #32
Care to comment on the content of my Op? sheshe2 Dec 2014 #8
I think she wants nothing to do with the TROLLS on this site, chervilant Dec 2014 #58
Thanks Nadin n/t malaise Dec 2014 #9
Hey, greytdemocrat Dec 2014 #10
Guess no one cares about the content of the Op. sheshe2 Dec 2014 #11
Love the OP! adirondacker Dec 2014 #19
Thank you adirondacker. sheshe2 Dec 2014 #25
Yes, thanks for this! K&R R B Garr Dec 2014 #49
K and R Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2014 #12
This is so Wonderful to see.. San Diego is one of my ol stomping grounds for many years. My Cha Dec 2014 #13
Thank you for that image in San Diego showing unity against the violence. sheshe2 Dec 2014 #16
Ah yes.. the "content" of the OP.. the reason for posting.. what a concept to actually talk about Cha Dec 2014 #20
Thank you Derrick Rose! sheshe2 Dec 2014 #29
Mahalo for the additional photos from Cha Dec 2014 #30
Nice to see San Diego is marching for justice. WHEN CRABS ROAR Dec 2014 #41
Wow.. sorry, you had to experience that, WHEN CRABS ROAR.. :( Unreal what some Cha Dec 2014 #50
K&R suffragette Dec 2014 #21
Thanks! Cleita Dec 2014 #24
K&R, Nadin!!! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2014 #27
fantastic! G_j Dec 2014 #31
Kudos to Nadine! Many thanks to her and to sheshe2 for posting this here. Hekate Dec 2014 #36
I agree kudos to nadin! sheshe2 Dec 2014 #45
Wow! silverweb Dec 2014 #39
Wonderful article. I miss Nadine very much. longship Dec 2014 #43
Good for Nadin Generic Other Dec 2014 #44
K&R to you and Nadin. freshwest Dec 2014 #55
Thanks freshwest! sheshe2 Dec 2014 #56
thank you for sharing these. niyad Dec 2014 #57
Thanks for sharing. I was in Seattle last evening and saw the demonstration there. It looked rhett o rick Dec 2014 #62
Thanks for Sharing Oldtimeralso Dec 2014 #63

jaysunb

(11,856 posts)
1. What happened to Nadine ????
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 07:16 PM
Dec 2014

I've asked a couple other DUer's after not seen posts from her in awhile ????

sheshe2

(83,789 posts)
18. Good to hear Jackpine.
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 08:39 PM
Dec 2014

I plan to follow her at the paper, these were damn fine articles she wrote and photographed along with her husband.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
59. She still is
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 02:24 PM
Dec 2014

a hell of better person representing liberals and progressives than I've seen with some here since the murder of Trayvon Martin and with the pile on whining of some on here for Obama's head on a platter. Waaaaa. Waaaaaa we want someone better...waaaaaa....waaaaaaa

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
15. She was run out of here by hateful people who hounded and treated her like shit and bullied her and
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 08:11 PM
Dec 2014

alerted on her relentlessly. nt

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
33. I agree. It's appalling how people get dogpiled on, when they've done little or nothing
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 09:27 PM
Dec 2014

to deserve it. Blatant right-wing trolling is one thing, but simple differences of opinion shouldn't be subject to group attacks.

longship

(40,416 posts)
37. I miss her, too.
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 09:42 PM
Dec 2014

She was always a great advocate and a prolific poster.

She was run off by a bunch of douche bags.

She's gone, and I fear that the douche bags likely remain. That's too bad.

Too damned many douche bags. Not nearly enough Nadines.

Tell her I said that.

Response to longship (Reply #37)

longship

(40,416 posts)
42. Of course they are.
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 10:32 PM
Dec 2014

Meanwhile the good ones are run off. That's a big problem of on-line forums.

Nadine has always been at the top of DU. But some asshole bullies ganged up on her and finally drove her away. There were many here who stood with her, but so many all out personal attacks took their toll.

Why contribute to a forum where you are bullied?

Of course, that invites the question Why does one go to an online forum to bully?

The answer is because some people are nothing more than utter douche bags. They are the ones who need to be driven off.

Certainly not an asset like Nadine.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
46. Inclined to believe this +1,000 times...
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 11:58 PM
Dec 2014

I'm sure those people still gotta hate.

On behalf of Nadine, fuck them.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
51. she left because of the ANti Semetism during the Israel Gaza Conflict
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 12:47 AM
Dec 2014

she got hides then but never came back after that.

and it wasn't the usual ones she had issues . she always came back in those cases.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
53. it was the anti semetism which disgusted her enough to not come back
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 12:53 AM
Dec 2014

and that was not the usual ones she had issues with

mcar

(42,334 posts)
2. Lovely to hear from Nadin again
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 07:20 PM
Dec 2014

I miss her posts. Didn't always agree with her but she provoked thought. It's what we should be about.

Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
7. She has free will. She's an asset to the site. Others are just asses.
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 07:31 PM
Dec 2014

The letter "t" makes all the difference.

I think she'll be back.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
58. I think she wants nothing to do with the TROLLS on this site,
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 01:43 PM
Dec 2014

as do many DUers. My IL is swollen with racists, sexists, homophobes, and verbal bullies. It's the only way I can continue to participate on this forum without having to "listen" to the ugliness of trolls.

FYI, this young man says it so well.

(There are days when I want "nothing to do with this site," but--compared to other activist websites--this one is least offensive and remains my primary resource for my political activism.)

(JIC: I am NOT calling you a troll. Please watch that video clip anyway.)

sheshe2

(83,789 posts)
11. Guess no one cares about the content of the Op.
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 07:38 PM
Dec 2014

These are all fantastic article that nadin wrote. Anyone care to actually read them?

Cha

(297,294 posts)
13. This is so Wonderful to see.. San Diego is one of my ol stomping grounds for many years. My
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 07:57 PM
Dec 2014

daughter was born there. There are so many good people from all walks of life and ethnic backgrounds.. and now they're standing up for Michael Brown and Eric Garner .

Mahalo Nadin and Tom Abbott for the photos and article.. Thank you she, for posting.

United Against Police Terror - San Diego

2 hours ago

A National march against police violence has been called for and we will answer that call in San Diego. Please share this information and gather allies and activists to unite with the world as one. Will stand up to bullying. We will stand in solidarity.

At 10:30 We will meet at the big fountain.
At 11:00 Speakers
At 11:30 Die In
At 12:00 We March



https://www.facebook.com/uaptsd














sheshe2

(83,789 posts)
16. Thank you for that image in San Diego showing unity against the violence.
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 08:16 PM
Dec 2014

Cha thanks for responding to the actual articles that I posted. They are well done by nadin and her husband. This part was painful to read...

Before the march, the protesters held a die in that lasted 11 minutes. Each minute represented each time Eric Garner said he could not breath, before he died.

Then he, and the group, stood in silence for four and a half minutes, in memory of the four and a half hours that it took for the police to remove the body of Mike Brown from the streets in Ferguson.


Tears~

Good facebook link, Cha.

I forgot that SD was your old stomping ground. Good on San Diego. Brava and Bravo for all that are standing up and saying no more to the racist cops that seem to be murdering PoC at will.

Cha

(297,294 posts)
20. Ah yes.. the "content" of the OP.. the reason for posting.. what a concept to actually talk about
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 08:45 PM
Dec 2014

that.

The quote you wrote is intensely compelling and thoughtful for the Protesters to get to the heart wrenching heart of the matter.



People All Across Our Nation Standing Up For Michael Brown, Eric Garner, and Police Terror..



Nerdy Wonka @NerdyWonka
Follow
Derrick Rose in an 'I Can't Breathe' shirt before the Bulls-Warriors game #EricGarner #ICantBreathe #BlackLivesMatter
4:09 PM - 6 Dec 2014 79 Retweets 65 favorites

http://theobamadiary.com/2014/12/06/a-tweet-or-two-182/

sheshe2

(83,789 posts)
29. Thank you Derrick Rose!
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 09:07 PM
Dec 2014

And for all those that are standing up. And mark my words, the world is watching and we will damn well see changes.

More from the link..

"“It is beyond Ferguson, it goes around this entire world.” These are words of a people who are tired of the current system. The issue goes beyond police brutality, and it includes the criminalization of a whole generation of young men and women in the communities of color."

http://reportingsandiego.com/2014/12/06/protesters-take-to-city-heights-streets-again/

more images from nadin.





I love this one





Yes Cha, who knew one should comment on the content of the Op.

Thank you Cha~

Cha

(297,294 posts)
30. Mahalo for the additional photos from
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 09:12 PM
Dec 2014

Tom and Nadin, she.. very compelling! Bless their hearts from the bottom of mine.

she.. thank you.

WHEN CRABS ROAR

(3,813 posts)
41. Nice to see San Diego is marching for justice.
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 10:20 PM
Dec 2014

It's 1955 in San Diego, I'm 15 years old and the cop stops me walking down the street in Pacific Beach, he asks me my name, age, where I live, what I'm doing, where i'm going, and have I ever been arrested, he enters all this information on his field interrogation report form, all this takes about 15 minutes and I'm allowed to continue. This was standard operating procedure then. Everywhere we went we were stopped.

Flash forward to 1985 in San Diego, my 15 year old son is sitting on our front lawn in Pacific Beach and the cop pulls up and yells out his car window, "hey asshole get over here".

Sadly this is a true story.

And the police wonder why they aren't respected.

Cha

(297,294 posts)
50. Wow.. sorry, you had to experience that, WHEN CRABS ROAR.. :( Unreal what some
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 12:36 AM
Dec 2014

have to go through with police..

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
24. Thanks!
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 08:54 PM
Dec 2014

Most of us miss Nadin and her good contributions. I hope she returns some day after those who ran her off are gone permanently.

G_j

(40,367 posts)
31. fantastic!
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 09:12 PM
Dec 2014

excellent coverage, very inspiring. The people are moving. The photos are breathtaking. Thank you Naden!

sheshe2

(83,789 posts)
45. I agree kudos to nadin!
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 11:57 PM
Dec 2014

Thanks Hekate. We are moving it forward step by step.

The peoples voice, let it sing.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
39. Wow!
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 10:19 PM
Dec 2014

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Thanks, Nadin, for your terrific reporting and photos! You're missed.

I'm so proud of San Diego... my first California home for 26 years.

Thank you, sheshe, for posting this for all of us.



longship

(40,416 posts)
43. Wonderful article. I miss Nadine very much.
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 11:53 PM
Dec 2014

She was always one willing to post late night. And she is a real muckraker in SoCal politics, always a good asset.

I would like to say she has been a friend. At least I can say that when she was being harassed I told her that I had her back. Apparently I did not do enough in that department. We all fell down in defending her. Good intentions were not enough.

Let us all do better. And if Nadine returns, we will have her back.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
62. Thanks for sharing. I was in Seattle last evening and saw the demonstration there. It looked
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 06:05 PM
Dec 2014

peaceful. What worries me is watching the tactics and maneuvers of the police showed that they are refining their techniques.

Oldtimeralso

(1,937 posts)
63. Thanks for Sharing
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 06:30 PM
Dec 2014

Nadin, I do sincerely miss you and the information that you add to all of DU.
I have had my trolls, not many due to my limited postings, but then again, it might be a reason along with my disability for my limited posting.
I think that your skin may not be as tough as mine as scleroderma (translated as skin of stone) runs in my family and I already have two unique autoimmune diseases and don't need more.

Nadine I hope this reaches you and "You don't let the bastards let you down".
It may not be easy, but the ignore feature does work and I can only speak for myself, but I am sure that others who have posted here.

Back to the topic all of the protests are great as my generation participated in many. Yes, I was in Grant Park in 1968! I can no longer walk in a protest or anywhere more than 100 feet.
I am there in spirit and on the internet showing my support.

I wonder what summer will bring?

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