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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFascinating conversation I just overheard on the bus:
A man and a woman who knew each other got on and started talking. I was paying no attention until:
Man: But he beats on her.
Woman: She deserves it.
Man: I don't believe you said that. He shouldn't beat on her. Damn.
Woman: She's a liar.
Man: I know she is, but that don't mean he should beat on her. Damn.
They got off shortly after. The things I hear on the bus. I ought to write a book.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Brigid
(17,621 posts)I would say mid thirties.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)as judgmental and unforgiving as men can be brutal.
Take the gender out of it and it's just that people often suck. Too often.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Any defense attorney will tell you they don't want women on the jury of a rape case.
Brigid
(17,621 posts)If it was a rape case. The first hint of him or her trying to insinuate that the victim somehow "deserved" to be raped, they would lose me.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)but the friends and family I have in law all say the same thing - women are much harder on other women than men are. Every single one has told me that.
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)More men than women. It took us days to get two, then just the one, old white guy to understand that no woman deserves to be raped, for any reason.
KitSileya
(4,035 posts)If he beats her because she deserves it, then I won't be beaten because I'd never do anything to deserve a beating. If she was raped because her skirt was so short, well, then there's something I can do to prevent getting raped besides trusting to luck.
Our sub-consciousnesses are very aware of how much of potential victims we are, and anything that may give us a glimmer of hope it won't happen to us (or won't happen to us again) is glommed onto pretty hard. To acknowledge that we don't know which men will rape us, that knowing a guy is no assurance that he won't rape us, that we don't know whether our significant other will beat us one day, knowing that we most likely will be blamed if it does happen - anyone might fall into magical thinking when faced with reality.