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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSF Chron columnist: Violent protesters = "black bloc"
We first saw them here the so-called black bloc during the Iraq War protests of 2003. A splinter group dressed in black covering their faces would break off from the mostly peaceful demonstrators and begin destroying property lighting fires, spray-painting graffiti, breaking windows. We saw the same violent actions from splinter groups during the Oscar Grant protests in Oakland and then the Occupy Oakland protests in 2011. The tactics divided the Occupy Oaklanders, many of whom objected to the destruction of property.
Now, theyre hijacking the latest demonstrations in Oakland, San Francisco and Berkeley.
The same groups who came to wreak havoc in Oakland last week have shifted their actions to Berkeley in the last few days. Apparently, the decision by Berkeley police to use tear gas to disperse the crowd has been taken as a challenge.
So no, if Chip Johnson can write about this in the Chron, "black blocs" are NOT truther/tinfoil hat imaginary beings.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)okaawhatever
(9,461 posts)Ferguson protesters in Berkely can separate themselves from the Black Bloc.
MADem
(135,425 posts)The actual "Ferguson protesters" are a mix of races and they are focused on the ISSUES--police brutality, the obvious disparity in treatment based on race, the whole "enough is enough" sense that most of us feel.
The black bloc crew are smash-and-grabbers, troublemakers, rabble rousers.
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octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Black Bloc anarchists emerging as a force amid unrest in Brazil
Wearing black clothing, scarves and ski masks, so-called Black Bloc anarchists have taken a starring role in Brazils social unrest, using violent tactics to target symbols of capitalism.
Black-clad anarchists infiltrate protest demonstrations to carry out acts of vandalism against capitalist symbols such as McDonalds restaurants or banks.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/10/black-bloc-anarchists-emerging-as-a-force-amid-unrest-in-brazil/
We dont talk to media but we are black bloc
In early 2012, when Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Chris Hedges called black bloc anarchists the cancer of the Occupy movement, his remarks were swiftly condemned by many. First and foremost, critics were swift to point out that black bloc anarchistsare not a group the black bloc is a protest tactic, which has often been employed by anarchists, involving the collective donning of unidentifiable black clothing and masks so as to move through the streets as a unified, anonymous mass.
What better proof that there is no one black bloc group or organization than the emergence in recent days of black blocs in Egypts protest-filled streets? As the AP reported, youths with faces hidden under black masks have appeared among stone-throwing protesters in clashes with police around Egypt the past five days in the wave of political violence that has shaken the country. During protests in Cairo on Monday, masked youths celebrated around a police armored vehicle in flames in the middle of Tahrir Square, waving their hands in V-for-victory signs. http://www.salon.com/2013/01/29/we_dont_talk_to_media_but_we_are_black_bloc/
MADem
(135,425 posts)who show up at peaceful demonstrations and start smashing windows aren't "truther/tinfoil hat imaginary beings." This isn't the first time we've seen these little shits, either. They turned Oakland into a complete mess with their violence at City Hall and elsewhere. They need to be arrested, charged, convicted and locked the fuck up. What they do isn't just "vandalism" -- it's far, far worse than that. Had Occupy Oakland repudiated them at the outset, that effort wouldn't have ended so ignominiously.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)were reportedly from out of town, too (from cities ranging from Berkeley and San Jose to Fresno), which begs the question: why do they always have to come here to tear up stuff whenever there is a protest? Tearing up a city that is trying to rebound from its struggles and costing us money.
MADem
(135,425 posts)They think they're "cool" but what they are is shitheads.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)reddread
(6,896 posts)a thing of beauty to watch these things unfold from nothingness.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)rather than any kind of committed anarchists.
reddread
(6,896 posts)but the notion that they might be covering for police black-ops?
poppycock and tinfoil they say.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)reddread
(6,896 posts)but somehow people wish to conflater bloc'ers as tinfoil conceits instead of admitting
that cops instigate the ugly.
snot
(10,524 posts)At least, only they gain from these activities.
PoliticalPothead
(220 posts)Anarchists have been some of the most vocal critics of police brutality and racism, so saying they don't care is just silly. They are simply using a different tactic than the so-called 'non-violent' protesters. In my opinion, their tactics have more of an impact than a bunch of people sitting around holding hands and waiting to be tear gassed.
reddread
(6,896 posts)do they have a voting process?
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)assholes. I don't think they give a crap about any cause.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)People know about black bloc from acts of vandalism and violence against police, but the majority of what a black bloc does at protests is defensive; resisting arrest, cutting zip-ties and other binds used to arrest protestors, countermeasures against tear gas, etc.
I know because that's what the black bloc I ran with in Chicago during NoNATO did.
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War Horse
(931 posts)mulsh
(2,959 posts)cafe Ole Chip works his lap top at and repeatedly explained the tactics and dynamics of the Black Bloc folk. I've seen them in action at protests since the first Gulf War protests when they broke windows with newpaper vending machines in the financial district. they're easy to spot since inorder to assert their anarchistic way they all dress the same way every time. Black Clothing with black kercheifs covering their cowardly faces.
way to go Chip, sometime you should hop on Bart or the NL or F transbay busses and actually make it over here.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)He seems to hate everything about the city he lives in and covers for the Bay Area's major daily. Why doresn't he just move to the 'burbs, for crying out loud?