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CIA Flipped Out Behind The Scenes When Bush Said U.S. Would Ban TorturePosted: 12/09/2014 2:56 pm EST Updated: 15 minutes ago
WASHINGTON -- President George W. Bush marked June 26, 2003, the UN International Day in Support of Victims of Torture, with a strong statement spelling out America's commitment to eliminating the scourge from the earth.
"Torture anywhere is an affront to human dignity everywhere," he said, adding, "The United States is committed to the worldwide elimination of torture, and we are leading this fight by example. I call on all governments to join with the United States and the community of law-abiding nations in prohibiting, investigating, and prosecuting all acts of torture."
Behind the scenes, however, the agency tasked with carrying out the Bush administration's torture program had no idea what the president was talking about.
The international community and human rights advocates cheered the president's forceful statement. But within the CIA, the statement set off a panicked response about the future of its program of secret prisons and so-called "enhanced interrogation."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/09/bush-torture_n_6296002.html
louis-t
(23,295 posts)mrdmk
(2,943 posts)It is unbelievable what gets these people off...
calimary
(81,265 posts)Wonder if he ever got the irony of that. Nah - he probably never gave it a second thought. Too many destroyed brain cells.
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)I'm not keeping it together so well today. Today it hurts just to be a member of the human species.
calimary
(81,265 posts)Something to take my mind off feeling just incredibly sick-at-heart.
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)Cha
(297,220 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)against him.
on point
(2,506 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)From my conversations with FBI folks, including my interview with the head of FBI's anti-bin Laden unit, http://www.blogtalkradio.com/lesersense/2013/11/18/interview-with-jack-cloonan-special-agent-in-charge-of-fbis-bin-laden-squad FBI interrogators were flipped out in the other direction, extremely upset that anyone was torturing. Any trained interrogator knows that torture is a failed tactic for getting information. I would bet there was a lot of concern in the CIA about that as well.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Response to Scuba (Reply #10)
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Scuba
(53,475 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Somehow it doesn't surprise me.
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Vattel
(9,289 posts)suppose that opposition to torture in the CIA was widespread.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)nt
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Solly Mack
(90,766 posts)KansDem
(28,498 posts)Time to investigate and prosecute the BFEE.
spanone
(135,831 posts)RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)That's what Dubya is!
He, and the rest of the Bush Crime Syndicate should be frog marched, right into jail, and be left to rot there!
Initech
(100,075 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)True Blue Door
(2,969 posts)He used the word "freedom" as promiscuously as other people use the letter e, meanwhile dismantling Western civilization and trying to build a Middle Eastern-style monarchy on its ruins.
FairWinds
(1,717 posts)" I call on all governments to join with the United States and the community of law-abiding nations in prohibiting, investigating, and prosecuting all acts of torture."
Starting with him.
And by the way, the US national security elite is no stranger to torture - it was widely used in Vietnam, Latin America, and elsewhere.
Just one more reason to join Veterans For Peace (you need not be a vet to join).
Or else, are you really going to tell your grand kids you did NOTHING to stop US torture?
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)It's not just about banning torture -- it's really about how torture is defined.
So, great, he thinks "Torture anywhere is an affront to human dignity everywhere" -- but then he redefines torture to not include the stuff he wants to do.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)This morning she said she was convinced that Bush didn't know the details and that the CIA withheld the facts from him. CIA counsel John Rizzo was just on with Wolf Blitzer and he said it's preposterous to claim that Bush didn't know. He is the one who briefed Cheney and Condi Rice as to all the details about the exact methods to be used. The only thing he didn't brief them on (someone else might have) is all the black sites where torture took place. Why is Feinstein trying to bend the truth on this and give Bush an out?
ThoughtCriminal
(14,047 posts)Torture is, and should always be Un-American.
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)nt